Bug#262200: Re: Bug#262200: debian-installer: d-i downloads unneeded packages
Hi there, What suddenly makes it hard to download stuff? The network's still there. Is this a design issue? if you install from a modem connection anyway most people want to save money by disconnecting after the packages are transmitted, thus the installer would not be able to suck packages again without going through all that networking stuff again. Regards, Philipp Kern signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Bug#262200: debian-installer: d-i downloads unneeded packages
John wrote: Package: debian-installer Severity: normal I'm doing a network install via modem. I've discovered d-i downloading, amongst others, jfs and lvm udebs. I won't be using either, so this is simply wasted time. I suggest that downloading and installing optional udebs be deferred until it's clear they are wanted. atm I'm downloading bits of the 2.4 kernel; the above was with 2.6. I note its downloading lots of kernel modules. I booted off a LAN, why not justput those modules in the initial ram disk? AFAIK boot image size is only a problem if booting off floppies. Or, have a second image that cab be downloaded by tftp. Then when the kernel and initrd are loaded by tftp, the installer's bootstrap can get a second image. The DHCP server can tell which server to use. -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tourist pics http://portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#262200: debian-installer: d-i downloads unneeded packages
On Fri, Jul 30, 2004 at 01:46:37PM +0800, John Summerfield wrote: atm I'm downloading bits of the 2.4 kernel; the above was with 2.6. I note its downloading lots of kernel modules. I booted off a LAN, why not justput those modules in the initial ram disk? AFAIK boot image size is only a problem if booting off floppies. If you want an initrd with everything, use the monolithic initrd; you can probably manage to netboot it. The netboot image will stay small. d-i downloads the components you mentioned because, at the moment, it only gets one chance at downloading components, and therefore downloads everything it needs to supply e.g. all the partitioning options we want to make available. Or, have a second image that cab be downloaded by tftp. Then when the kernel and initrd are loaded by tftp, the installer's bootstrap can get a second image. The DHCP server can tell which server to use. Wouldn't it be easier just to have a local mirror of the necessary udebs? Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#262200: debian-installer: d-i downloads unneeded packages
Colin Watson wrote: On Fri, Jul 30, 2004 at 01:46:37PM +0800, John Summerfield wrote: atm I'm downloading bits of the 2.4 kernel; the above was with 2.6. I note its downloading lots of kernel modules. I booted off a LAN, why not justput those modules in the initial ram disk? AFAIK boot image size is only a problem if booting off floppies. If you want an initrd with everything, use the monolithic initrd; you can probably manage to netboot it. The netboot image will stay small. I went looking to see if I could find this monolithic initrd. I see a tarball in the sid installer direcory I've been using. Is this what you mean? Looking at http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ I see a link to CD imaages. Those are out of the question, I'm not going to try to pull those through my modem. The other boot images link actually points to the port status page. While there seem to be pointers to some more images there, there are none appropriate for me. I don't now see the link to Joey's dailies. I'm pulling from Sid because I can get it locally. d-i downloads the components you mentioned because, at the moment, it only gets one chance at downloading components, and therefore downloads everything it needs to supply e.g. all the partitioning options we want to make available. What suddenly makes it hard to download stuff? The network's still there. Is this a design issue? Or, have a second image that cab be downloaded by tftp. Then when the kernel and initrd are loaded by tftp, the installer's bootstrap can get a second image. The DHCP server can tell which server to use. Wouldn't it be easier just to have a local mirror of the necessary udebs? Not for occasional use, and certainly not while you're changing them so often, any mirror is soon out of date. Hopefully I'll have adsl at home again soon and I won't care. Telstra said our new home is too far from the exchange, now it's change its mind. However, it will be a continuing problem for others. -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tourist pics http://portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#262200: debian-installer: d-i downloads unneeded packages
Package: debian-installer Severity: normal I'm doing a network install via modem. I've discovered d-i downloading, amongst others, jfs and lvm udebs. I won't be using either, so this is simply wasted time. I suggest that downloading and installing optional udebs be deferred until it's clear they are wanted. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers testing APT policy: (990, 'testing') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 2.6.5-1-686 Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]