Bug#421337: Carefull!! desktop installation.
On Fri, May 04, 2007 at 06:48:16PM -0500, Robert wrote: > Thank you for your brilliant observations!! Let me clarify what YOU do > not seem to understand: > 1) The fact that the desktop GUI is chosen by the development team and > NOT the installer DURING the installation process IS a bug. Bug, as in > programming or scripting ERROR. No, it is a design decision. That you don't *like* it does not make it a bug. > 2) The installer/user can NOT read the fucking installation guide when > you do NOT yet have an operating system. > 3) If the installer uses the example in the initial help page (F4) > logically: tasks="dns-server, file-server, kde-desktop, standard"The > installer gets a KDE GUI with Gnome components and NO server services. > This too seems to be a bug, however, I can workaround it. > Fortunately for me, your colleagues are more tolerant of converts to the > Debian way of thinking. I don't know where you got the idea that his colleagues are tolerant of people being assholes in bug reports, but you are mistaken. If you can't be civil to the maintainers who respond to the bug reports you've filed, I'll be happy to ask the BTS admins to block your access. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#421337: Carefull!! desktop installation.
Thank you for your brilliant observations!! Let me clarify what YOU do not seem to understand: 1) The fact that the desktop GUI is chosen by the development team and NOT the installer DURING the installation process IS a bug. Bug, as in programming or scripting ERROR. 2) The installer/user can NOT read the fucking installation guide when you do NOT yet have an operating system. 3) If the installer uses the example in the initial help page (F4) logically: tasks="dns-server, file-server, kde-desktop, standard"The installer gets a KDE GUI with Gnome components and NO server services. This too seems to be a bug, however, I can workaround it. Fortunately for me, your colleagues are more tolerant of converts to the Debian way of thinking. Have a nice day, Robert Mitchell Frans Pop wrote: On Saturday 28 April 2007 20:30, Geert Stappers wrote: My problem with the installation of etch (v. 4.0.0) is that it automatically installs Gnome as the default desktop GUI. I have installed etch twice, the second time, carefully noting choices. The installer program/script NEVER asks the user which of the 4 popular desktops (or GUI) is wanted; Gnome, KDE, Xfce or IceWM. Correct and that is a choice that was made. If you'd taken the trouble to read the installation guide, or even the Etch release notes, before you started the installation, you'd have seen that Gnome is the default desktop environment and how others can be installed. Closing this report as things worked as intended. Cheers, FJP --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000736-2, 04/26/2007 Tested on: 4/28/2007 11:31:46 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#421337: Carefull desktop installation.
Op 28-04-2007 om 16:57 schreef Robert: > Sorry, the information on how to send a bug report is confusing. This > is my first bug report. Okay, with that information I understand better your situation. > My problem with the installation of etch (v. 4.0.0) is that it > automatically installs Gnome as the default desktop GUI. I have > installed etch twice, the second time, carefully noting choices. The > installer program/script NEVER asks the user which of the 4 popular > desktops (or GUI) is wanted; Gnome, KDE, Xfce or IceWM. I agree with you there is a question missing. Others think different about it and I agree with them to keep the number questions low. Read futher for a workaround. > 1) I HATE Gnome, KDE is ok; but I prefer Xfce. > > 2) I want an initial system with the smallest disk and memory footprint. > > 3) I want to keep my existing partitions, if possible. Especially, > /home, /opt, /usr/local. > > 4) I do not want ANY multimedia applications. I am deaf, thus I have > no sound card, therefore I have no need to install sound related apps. > > 5) I want to pick and choose what packages to install. Since I am > still a newbie with Debian Linux, it took me 3 days to remove all Gnome > packages, and I am still finding Gnome related libraries, & files, and > KDE multimedia files & apps. > > I hope this is more clear. Yes, it is the "Take some time tell what this bugreport is about." that I previous missed. With some luck you learned in "the 3 removal days" the packaging system in Debian. Even with more luck you found the command line tools for it. If not, here is a crash course: ( no need to type the text after # ) # "open a terminal", to get you a command line prompt su - # become root apt-get install subversion # install a package that I assume was not yet installed which subversion # to show that the executable is available apt-get remove subversion which subversion # it is gone aptitude install subversion # the same excersize with aptitude remove subversion # tool that is preferred since Sarge Play with it to get comfortable with it. My advice is to do a third install with Etch, this uncheck the desktop task in the "Tasksel Menu". It will give you a server like install: No audio applications, no graphic library stuff. ( surely no Gnome ;-) Now you can build the Desktop you want. Perhaps does a aptitude install xfce4 all what you need/want. > Thanks, > Rob Cheers Geert Stappers a Gnome person P.S. Please keep [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the loop ( a "reply to all" does that ) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
