Bug#421338: this ia64/amd64 issue comes up really often.
reopen 421338 submitter 421338 ! retitle 421338 this ia64/amd64 issue comes up really often reassign 421338 efi-reader severity 421338 wishlist thanks Op 29-04-2007 om 18:58 schreef Eddy Petri??or: Geert Stappers wrote: Op 29-04-2007 om 14:28 schreef Eddy Petri??or: Julien BLACHE wrote: Apple machines aren't ia64, they're i386/amd64 machines. So, you used the wrong architecture, grab an i386 or amd64 installation media instead. Maybe we could add a warning in the ia64 images when such an image is used on an amd64 machine; Please elaborate your proposal. what's not clear? if you try to boot an ia64 image and it fails, the error message should suggest (if clear detection is not possible) that the user might be trying to boot the wrong type of image and maybe he/she should try an amd64 image which is the proper image for Intel Core 2 processors It would be nice if the string Error: unsupported while loading bootia64.efi would be changed in Error: unsupported while loading bootia64.efi. Try an amd64 image Rationalate, courtisity of Eddy Petri??or: You can't expect everybody to know how debian called its amd64/x86_64 architecture. Even the people that are close to debian might not know the difference (I know I also was confused). And since Intel Core 2 processors are produced by Intel, people *expect* the arch to be called something along the lines of i386, i486, and not k6, k7 or amd*, so ia64 - oh Intel architecture, 64 bits, that's it is the first thing that springs to mind. This is the reason behind many choices made in all kinds of places which are taken on the account of the element of the least surprise. Not knowing the history of the x86_64 arch is NOT plain ignorance. You can't expect everybody to know such things. I appreciate what Debian wanted to do (pay a tribute to amd), but we have to admit the choice backfired. I would be really curious about some comparative graphs about the downloads of the ia64 images around the release of etch and around the release of sarge (also in comparison with i386, amd64 and other images)... I wouldn't be surprised if there was a big difference since Intel Core 2 processors became more common place during sarge's lifetime and is *easy* to make the wrong choice... The reassign to 'efi-reader' was to get this BR away from 'installation-reports', but I couldn't find the efi bootloader Cheers Geert Stappers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#421338: this ia64/amd64 issue comes up really often.
reassign 421338 debian-installer thanks On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 11:09:12AM +0200, Geert Stappers wrote: reopen 421338 submitter 421338 ! retitle 421338 this ia64/amd64 issue comes up really often reassign 421338 efi-reader severity 421338 wishlist thanks Op 29-04-2007 om 18:58 schreef Eddy Petri??or: Geert Stappers wrote: Op 29-04-2007 om 14:28 schreef Eddy Petri??or: Julien BLACHE wrote: Apple machines aren't ia64, they're i386/amd64 machines. So, you used the wrong architecture, grab an i386 or amd64 installation media instead. Maybe we could add a warning in the ia64 images when such an image is used on an amd64 machine; Please elaborate your proposal. what's not clear? if you try to boot an ia64 image and it fails, the error message should suggest (if clear detection is not possible) that the user might be trying to boot the wrong type of image and maybe he/she should try an amd64 image which is the proper image for Intel Core 2 processors It would be nice if the string Error: unsupported while loading bootia64.efi would be changed in Error: unsupported while loading bootia64.efi. Try an amd64 image FWIW, I have some prelim code which allows putting both an x86 and an ia64 el torito boot image on an ISO and booting the correct one per architecture. Perhaps it would be worth creating a stub el torito image that pops up an explanation, and shipping it on the ia64 images. I imagine efi-reader is the wrong package for this, you'll never get to the point of seeing an error message from a udeb if the kernel itself isn't bootable. Reassigning to debian-installer, though ultimately debian-cd may be the right place for it. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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