Bug#457973: debian installer (etch r1) on AMD Athlon XP 3200++

[Geert Stappers]

Op 02-01-2008 om 14:16 schreef Manfred Rebentisch:
> Is it ok to put a long report as attachement?

Euh, hard to say.

There is a technical size limit, but I don't known what that is.

And there is a personal limit, where I can speak only for myself.

Mostly is my limit lower as the technical one.

The annoying thing to me, are posting with untrimmed log files.
Those postings yield "here is my dump, now you dig through it".

Postings that say ( implicied or explicied ) 
  Find attached the _relevant parts_ of the logfiles
are the preferred ones.



So just post the (long?) report and see what happens.


Cheers
Geert Stappers




-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bug#457973: debian installer (etch r1) on AMD Athlon XP 3200++

[Manfred Rebentisch]

Hello Geert,

Am Mittwoch 02 Januar 2008 13:58 schrieben Sie:

>  



>
> From my point of view it is also (very (very)) hard _WHAT TO THINK_
> about USB. I suggest you reply this E-mail with the relevant lines
> from your report about the thing that runs wrong, plus some elaboration
> about the issue.

I need some days, within I do the following: I take a new disk and run the 
installations with "install" two times: first with connected USB hardware and 
second without the USB hardware. On boot prompt I try to set the DEBUG 
parameter.
After that I can answer again to this mail. Is it ok to put a long report as 
attachement?

> That may cost some time, but hey, see it as an investment for the next
> time _you_ will do an install on the same hardware and also for people
> with a simular hardware set up.
Thats ok.

Regards
Manfred



-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bug#457973: debian installer (etch r1) on AMD Athlon XP 3200++

[Geert Stappers]

Hello Manfred,

Op 31-12-2007 om 16:55 schreef Manfred Rebentisch:
> Am Montag 31 Dezember 2007 15:56 schrieb Frans Pop:
> > On Thursday 27 December 2007, Manfred Rebentisch wrote:
> > > Comments/Problems:
 
> > > 7. There was no possibility to add the first user
> > > 8. There was no question for the root password
> >
> > This is just not correct.
> >
> > > 9. During disk partitioning it was not clear, on which of the disks
> > > debian will install. It was done ok, but there was no possibility to
> > > choose the destination disk (hda or sda).
> >
> > This is just not correct either. Both for guided and manual partitioning
> > the installer _always_ lets you select which disk to use.
> No!
> 
> Please have a look to my report again and think about the USB hardware. I 
> think, that something runs wrong, because I have a floppy via USB.
> But I did not understand the details.

>From my point of view it is also (very (very)) hard _WHAT TO THINK_
about USB. I suggest you reply this E-mail with the relevant lines
from your report about the thing that runs wrong, plus some elaboration
about the issue.
That may cost some time, but hey, see it as an investment for the next
time _you_ will do an install on the same hardware and also for people
with a simular hardware set up.

> Have a happy new year 2008!

Best wishes
Geert Stappers



-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bug#457973: debian installer (etch r1) on AMD Athlon XP 3200++

[Manfred Rebentisch]

Hello Frans,
thank you very much for your answer.

Am Montag 31 Dezember 2007 15:56 schrieb Frans Pop:
> On Thursday 27 December 2007, Manfred Rebentisch wrote:
> > Comments/Problems:
> > 1. I choose "expertgui"
>
> Note that "expert" really is only intended for people for are very
> familiar with the installer and actually need the additional options.
I think, I did use the expert mode many times with many debian installations.

>
> > 2. Can choose kernels, but missing description about that !
>
> The installer automatically selects a good default. If you don't know
> better, just select that.
I think, it is a good idea to put a simple comment to this page.

>
> > 3. The detection of network card shows only the hardware "floppy"
> > 4. The detection of hard disks shows only one entry named "floppy" too.
>
> What's the point? As you were able to complete the installation I assume
> that both network and disk were supported. Again, don't use expert mode
> unless you need to.
Why did you answer to me?
I did use the expert mode, because the previous install with "install" was 
failed (does not show many installer pages, does not install most software, 
only minimal system).

>
> > 5. The software task "KDE-desktop" is missing
>
> No, it is not. It's just not possible to select it from a dialog. There is
> a separate installation CD that installs KDE by default.
> Please consult the installation guide for info on how to select KDE using
> the standard CD images.
>
> > 6. uswsusp give message, that there is no valid swap partition. But
> > there where two valid swap partitions while installation process. One
> > swap on sda2 from RAID and one on hda2 from first installation trial.
>
> This is a known issue.
>
> > 7. There was no possibility to add the first user
> > 8. There was no question for the root password
>
> This is just not correct.
>
> > 9. During disk partitioning it was not clear, on which of the disks
> > debian will install. It was done ok, but there was no possibility to
> > choose the destination disk (hda or sda).
>
> This is just not correct either. Both for guided and manual partitioning
> the installer _always_ lets you select which disk to use.
No!

Please have a look to my report again and think about the USB hardware. I 
think, that something runs wrong, because I have a floppy via USB.
But I did not understand the details.

Have a happy new year 2008!

Manfred



-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bug#457973: debian installer (etch r1) on AMD Athlon XP 3200++

[Frans Pop]

On Thursday 27 December 2007, Manfred Rebentisch wrote:
> Comments/Problems:
> 1. I choose "expertgui"

Note that "expert" really is only intended for people for are very 
familiar with the installer and actually need the additional options.

> 2. Can choose kernels, but missing description about that !

The installer automatically selects a good default. If you don't know 
better, just select that.

> 3. The detection of network card shows only the hardware "floppy"
> 4. The detection of hard disks shows only one entry named "floppy" too.

What's the point? As you were able to complete the installation I assume 
that both network and disk were supported. Again, don't use expert mode 
unless you need to.

> 5. The software task "KDE-desktop" is missing

No, it is not. It's just not possible to select it from a dialog. There is 
a separate installation CD that installs KDE by default.
Please consult the installation guide for info on how to select KDE using 
the standard CD images.

> 6. uswsusp give message, that there is no valid swap partition. But
> there where two valid swap partitions while installation process. One
> swap on sda2 from RAID and one on hda2 from first installation trial.

This is a known issue.

> 7. There was no possibility to add the first user
> 8. There was no question for the root password

This is just not correct.

> 9. During disk partitioning it was not clear, on which of the disks
> debian will install. It was done ok, but there was no possibility to
> choose the destination disk (hda or sda).

This is just not correct either. Both for guided and manual partitioning 
the installer _always_ lets you select which disk to use.

> Thank you for your work

Thank you for submitting the installation report.

Cheers,
FJP



-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bug#457973: debian installer (etch r1) on AMD Athlon XP 3200++

[Manfred Rebentisch]

Package: installation-reports

Boot method: 
Image version: 

Date: <2007-12-26>

Machine: 
Processor: AMD Athlon XP 3200++
Memory: 1 GB
Partitions: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# df
Dateisystem  1K-Blöcke   Benutzt Verfügbar Ben% Eingehängt auf
/dev/hda3 28834744   5710948  21659072  21% /
tmpfs   518336 0518336   0% /lib/init/rw
udev 1024076 10164   1% /dev
tmpfs   518336 0518336   0% /dev/shm
/dev/hda190297 11381 74099  14% /boot
/dev/hda5 76896316  10563220  62426896  15% /home
/dev/hda6132614920  54240740  71637728  44% /local
>

Output of lspci -nn and lspci -vnn:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# lspci -nn
00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 746 Host 
[1039:0746] (rev 10)
00:01.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SG86C202 
[1039:0002]
00:02.0 ISA bridge [0601]: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS963 [MuTIOL 
Media IO] [1039:0963] (rev 25)
00:02.1 SMBus [0c05]: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS961/2 SMBus 
Controller [1039:0016]
00:02.5 IDE interface [0101]: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 5513 [IDE] 
[1039:5513]
00:03.0 USB Controller [0c03]: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.0 
Controller [1039:7001] (rev 0f)
00:03.1 USB Controller [0c03]: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.0 
Controller [1039:7001] (rev 0f)
00:03.2 USB Controller [0c03]: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 2.0 
Controller [1039:7002]
00:04.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 
PCI Fast Ethernet [1039:0900] (rev 90)
00:0b.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394) [0c00]: VIA Technologies, Inc. IEEE 1394 Host 
Controller [1106:3044] (rev 46)
00:0c.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro 
100] [8086:1229] (rev 0c)
00:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738 
[13f6:0111] (rev 10)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 
5200] [10de:0322] (rev a1)

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# lspci -vnn
00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 746 Host 
[1039:0746] (rev 10)
Subsystem: ASRock Incorporation Unknown device [1849:0746]
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0
Memory at d000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64M]
Capabilities: [c0] AGP version 3.0

00:01.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SG86C202 
[1039:0002] (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 32
Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=02, sec-latency=32
Memory behind bridge: cdd0-cfef
Prefetchable memory behind bridge: ada0-cdbf

00:02.0 ISA bridge [0601]: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS963 [MuTIOL 
Media IO] [1039:0963] (rev 25)
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0

00:02.1 SMBus [0c05]: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS961/2 SMBus 
Controller [1039:0016]
Flags: medium devsel
I/O ports at 0c00 [size=32]

00:02.5 IDE interface [0101]: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 5513 [IDE] 
[1039:5513] (prog-if 80 [Master])
Subsystem: ASRock Incorporation Unknown device [1849:5513]
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 128
I/O ports at ff00 [size=16]

00:03.0 USB Controller [0c03]: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.0 
Controller [1039:7001] (rev 0f) (prog-if 10 [OHCI])
Subsystem: ASRock Incorporation Unknown device [1849:7001]
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 169
Memory at cfffd000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]

00:03.1 USB Controller [0c03]: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.0 
Controller [1039:7001] (rev 0f) (prog-if 10 [OHCI])
Subsystem: ASRock Incorporation Unknown device [1849:7001]
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 177
Memory at cfffe000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]

00:03.2 USB Controller [0c03]: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 2.0 
Controller [1039:7002] (prog-if 20 [EHCI])
Subsystem: ASRock Incorporation Unknown device [1849:7001]
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 185
Memory at c000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2

00:04.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 
PCI Fast Ethernet [1039:0900] (rev 90)
Subsystem: ASRock Incorporation Unknown device [1849:8201]
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 193
I/O ports at dc00 [size=256]
Memory at cfffc000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
Expansion ROM at 5000 [disabled] [size=128K]
Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2

00:0b.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394) [0c00]: VIA Technologies, Inc. IEEE 1394 Host 
Controller [1106:3044] (rev 46) (prog-if