Processed: Re: Bug#467415: debian-installer: new way of displaying information

2008-02-29 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug#467415: debian-installer: new way of displaying information
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Bug#467415: debian-installer: new way of displaying information

2008-02-29 Thread Jérémy Bobbio
reassign 467415 cdebconf-newt-udeb
thanks

On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 09:04:22AM +, ardoRic wrote:
 As can be seen on [1], it can happen that translated strings do not fit
 into installer window. Currently there is no way that i could figure out
 to show the entire string.
 […]
 I'd like to suggest that thought is put into this issue trying to find a
 universal solution for this problem.
 […]
 I think this request only applies to the newt interface (even though i
 havent, yet, tested how it shows on the gtk one).
 […] 
 [1] http://www.debianpt.org/~ardoric/opcoes-reiserfs.png

Reassigning this bug to cdebconf-newt-udeb, as other cdebconf frontends
should more or less cope with long strings in select/multiselect
questions.

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Bug#467415: debian-installer: new way of displaying information

2008-02-29 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 25 February 2008, ardoRic wrote:
 I'd like to suggest that thought is put into this issue trying to find a
 universal solution for this problem.

I have no idea whether your suggestions will ever be implemented or not.
I very much doubt it will happen any time soon.

 If we really want an international Debian, we should take care of all
 such issues.

Well, ATM translators _are_ warned about this. For this string there is an 
instruction that translations should not be longer than 65 characters.

For the short term, you should really contact the translators for your 
language (is this pt or pt_BR?) and get them to rewrite any strings that 
are too long.

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#467415: debian-installer: new way of displaying information

2008-02-29 Thread ardoRic
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Frans Pop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have no idea whether your suggestions will ever be implemented or not.
  I very much doubt it will happen any time soon.

  Well, ATM translators _are_ warned about this. For this string there is an
  instruction that translations should not be longer than 65 characters.

  For the short term, you should really contact the translators for your
  language (is this pt or pt_BR?) and get them to rewrite any strings that
  are too long.

I am part of the translation team for my language (pt), and i noticed
this issue while proof-reading the portuguese 'version' of the
installer. It was only after writing the BR that i actually found
where the strings are and noticed the warning about it's width.

Although we were able to shorten it down, i still think this matter
should be taken in consideration because limiting the width of the
translation may give rise to inferior, or even incorrect,
translations.

Thank you for any and all attention put on this matter,
Ricardo Silva



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Bug#467415: debian-installer: new way of displaying information

2008-02-25 Thread ardoRic
Subject: debian-installer: new way of displaying information
Package: debian-installer
Severity: wishlist
Tags: l10n

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-- System Information:
Debian Release: lenny/sid
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (500, 'testing')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.22-3-686 (SMP w/1 CPU core)
Locale: LANG=pt_PT.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=pt_PT.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

Hello,

As can be seen on [1], it can happen that translated strings do not fit
into installer window. Currently there is no way that i could figure out
to show the entire string.

This is a problem since users of specific languages may not be able to
know exactly what an option does.

Although this is shown only on this screen, I figure it can also happen
in some other places.

I'd like to suggest that thought is put into this issue trying to find a
universal solution for this problem.

My suggestion would be to make the information part extensible. I can
think of two ways for doing this:

* list the options and only show information (on some other pane or
whatever) on the selected entry. This would make people have to go
through the options to know what they are, but at least they would know
what they are.

* have some way of scrolling the text that doesnt fit. When selected, an
option's text could scroll so that it shows the hidden text.


I'm submitting this wishlist because even if we can shrink the text to
fit the screen (in this particular case, we could find a way to do it),
in some languages and/or situations this can be crippling for the
translation.

If we really want an international Debian, we should take care of all
such issues.

I think this request only applies to the newt interface (even though i
havent, yet, tested how it shows on the gtk one).

Best Regards,
Ricardo Silva

[1] http://www.debianpt.org/~ardoric/opcoes-reiserfs.png



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