Bug#482335: installationreport: problems with german keymap
On Sunday 22 June 2008, Frans Pop wrote: > Changing keymaps works fine when using udebs from 2008-03-25 and the > .24 kernel, but is broken again when the keyboard module is not > disabled for D-I Lenny Beta 2 (essentially same kernel), which leads to > the question "what changed?". Was directfb later "fixed" for the kernel > change maybe, breaking things for us again? Good news is that with anything I can build or test now, keyboard switching works. Only beta2 stands out as not-working. Only uneasy feeling left from that is that I cannot seem to figure out why. Differences between Beta2 and current testing are minimal, but enough so I can no longer reproduce problems with keyboard switching. I want to do some more testing, but it looks like enabling the directfb keyboard module is the way to go. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Bug#482335: installationreport: problems with german keymap
On Sunday 22 June 2008, Frans Pop wrote: > Although the direct cause is the switch to 2.6.24, I would think that > the actual problem is likely to be in directfb which apparently does > not work with whatever changed in the kernel. Commenting out the following line from /etc/directfbrc (after boot with BOOT_DEBUG=3) makes the keys work again: disable-module=keyboard The reason that line was added is #395257, which is mainly about switching keyboards not working. I have tested changing keymaps does work now without disabling the keyboard module, so apparently the root cause of that issue was in the kernel. BUT... Changing keymaps works fine when using udebs from 2008-03-25 and the .24 kernel, but is broken again when the keyboard module is not disabled for D-I Lenny Beta 2 (essentially same kernel), which leads to the question "what changed?". Was directfb later "fixed" for the kernel change maybe, breaking things for us again? Other info gathered along the way... Dead keys still do not work, at least combining them doesn't. If I select the Dutch keymap and press "'" (dead acute) followed by "e", nothing happens. Hmmm, hang on. It does kind of work. ' + space -> ´ ' + ' -> ´ ' + e -> nothing ' + ' + e -> ´é (i.e. gives accent _followed by_ accented character) Very strange is that this does work: ' + s -> ś ' + c -> ć I think I'll open a new bug report for this (later). With the Dutch keymap alternate keys work too if I use the Windows key as "shift", e.g. (all correct): normal/shift/windows + 1: 1 ! ¹ normal/shift/windows + 2: 2 " ² normal/shift/windows + 3: 3 # ³ normal/shift/windows + 4: 4 $ ¼ normal/shift/windows + 5: 5 % ½ normal/shift/windows + 6: 7 & ¾ Cheers, FJP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Bug#482335: installationreport: problems with german keymap
On Thursday 29 May 2008, Frans Pop wrote: > On Thursday 22 May 2008, Holger Wansing wrote: > > No, this has nothing to do with dead keys or characters composed by > > typing an accent and then the letter. The german umlauts öäüß are > > own characters as oau. There are lower case and upper case forms of > > them, while the upper case are created with the normal shift key. > > See http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Qwertz_de.svg > > > > In VT2 all keys work correctly. > > OK. I have just confirmed the regression. > As VT2 is correct, it is unlikely that this is an issue in the keymap, > although that should be checked for changes. > > Most likely the regression is in either cairo or directfb, but > reassigning to cdebconf until we can trace it more exactly. I've just, with the help of snapshot.d.n, traced this regression to the switch from the 2.6.22-3 kernel to the 2.6.24-1 kernel. This can be easily reproduced by anyone by creating a sources.list.udeb.local with the following line in it: deb http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/2008/03/25/debian sid main And then building netboot-gtk images using both kernels by updating config/i386.cfg (see below for minor additional changes needed). Udebs for both kernels are available on that day, which also means there are absolutely no other changes. Although the direct cause is the switch to 2.6.24, I would think that the actual problem is likely to be in directfb which apparently does not work with whatever changed in the kernel. I'll see if I can identify likely changes in the kernel, either the kernel config or functionality. Cheers, FJP Additional changes needed in config dir to avoid build errors: --- config/common (revision 53810) +++ config/common (working copy) @@ -86,4 +86,4 @@ # All images that include cdebconf should include symbols needed by these # plugins. -EXTRAUDEBS=cdebconf-newt-entropy cdebconf-text-entropy +EXTRAUDEBS=cdebconf-newt-entropy --- config/i386/netboot-gtk.cfg (revision 53810) +++ config/i386/netboot-gtk.cfg (working copy) @@ -21,4 +21,4 @@ # All images that include cdebconf should include symbols needed by these # plugins. -EXTRAUDEBS += cdebconf-gtk-entropy +#EXTRAUDEBS += cdebconf-gtk-entropy signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
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Bug#482335: installationreport: problems with german keymap
reassign 482335 cdebconf-gtk-udeb severity 482335 serious retitle 482335 [G-I] [regression] Some characters on German keyboards broken tags 482335 confirmed thanks On Thursday 22 May 2008, Holger Wansing wrote: > No, this has nothing to do with dead keys or characters composed by > typing an accent and then the letter. The german umlauts öäüß are > own characters as oau. There are lower case and upper case forms of > them, while the upper case are created with the normal shift key. > See http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Qwertz_de.svg > > In VT2 all keys work correctly. OK. I have just confirmed the regression. As VT2 is correct, it is unlikely that this is an issue in the keymap, although that should be checked for changes. Most likely the regression is in either cairo or directfb, but reassigning to cdebconf until we can trace it more exactly. It would be good if someone could confirm whether the same problem also affects other languages that have similar keys. I checked the Dutch keyboard and that is also affected: the ± and ˚ keys (first gives +, second is dead). > And: I just tried with a 4.0r1 installation DVD: no problems, all > keys work correctly. I have just checked and Lenny Beta1 was still good. Cheers, FJP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Bug#482335: Fwd: Re: Bug#482335: installationreport: problems with german keymap
-- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: Bug#482335: installationreport: problems with german keymap Date: Thursday 22 May 2008 From: Holger Wansing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello, On Thu, 22 May 2008 16:21:19 +0200 Frans Pop wrote: > > and the logs say, that keymap de_DE was loaded, but umlauts did not work > > (äöü) and also the ß. This all works fine in text mode installer. > > > > Additionally "Shift" + "3" didn't worked correctly: in graphical installer > > output was "3", in text mode installer output was a blank space. > > This is probably the same as #394871 which is listed in the errata and as an > open issue in the installation guide. > > Are these symbols typed by typing the accent separately using a "deadkey" or > are they typed using a special "shift" key (alt-gr)? > Do the keys work correctly if you switch to a debug console (VT2) and use > them there? No, this has nothing to do with dead keys or characters composed by typing an accent and then the letter. The german umlauts öäüß are own characters as oau. There are lower case and upper case forms of them, while the upper case are created with the normal shift key. See http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Qwertz_de.svg In VT2 all keys work correctly. And: I just tried with a 4.0r1 installation DVD: no problems, all keys work correctly. Holger --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#482335: installationreport: problems with german keymap
Hello, On Thu, 22 May 2008 16:21:19 +0200 Frans Pop wrote: > > and the logs say, that keymap de_DE was loaded, but umlauts did not work > > (äöü) and also the ß. This all works fine in text mode installer. > > > > Additionally "Shift" + "3" didn't worked correctly: in graphical installer > > output was "3", in text mode installer output was a blank space. > > This is probably the same as #394871 which is listed in the errata and as an > open issue in the installation guide. > > Are these symbols typed by typing the accent separately using a "deadkey" or > are they typed using a special "shift" key (alt-gr)? > Do the keys work correctly if you switch to a debug console (VT2) and use > them there? No, this has nothing to do with dead keys or characters composed by typing an accent and then the letter. The german umlauts öäüß are own characters as oau. There are lower case and upper case forms of them, while the upper case are created with the normal shift key. See http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Qwertz_de.svg In VT2 all keys work correctly. And: I just tried with a 4.0r1 installation DVD: no problems, all keys work correctly. Holger -- == Created with Sylpheed 2.3.0 under DEBIAN GNU/LINUX 4.0 »Etch« http://counter.li.org/, Registered LinuxUser #311290 = -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#482335: installationreport: problems with german keymap
On Wednesday 21 May 2008 23:47:45 Holger Wansing wrote: > Comments/Problems: > In graphical installer I chose > "Keyboard - german" > and the logs say, that keymap de_DE was loaded, but umlauts did not work > (äöü) and also the ß. This all works fine in text mode installer. > > Additionally "Shift" + "3" didn't worked correctly: in graphical installer > output was "3", in text mode installer output was a blank space. This is probably the same as #394871 which is listed in the errata and as an open issue in the installation guide. Are these symbols typed by typing the accent separately using a "deadkey" or are they typed using a special "shift" key (alt-gr)? Do the keys work correctly if you switch to a debug console (VT2) and use them there? Cheers, FJP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#482335: installationreport: problems with german keymap
Package: installation-reports Boot method: Image version: < http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/ arch-latest/i386/iso-cd/ > Date: <21.05.2008 23:00> Machine: Processor: Pentium 4 / 2GHz Memory: 512MB Base System Installation Checklist: [O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it Initial boot: [O] Detect network card:[ ] Configure network: [ ] Detect CD: [O] Load installer modules: [O] Detect hard drives: [ ] Partition hard drives: [ ] Install base system:[ ] Clock/timezone setup: [ ] User/password setup:[ ] Install tasks: [ ] Install boot loader:[ ] Overall install:[ ] Comments/Problems: In graphical installer I chose "Language - german" "Location - Germany" "Keyboard - german" and the logs say, that keymap de_DE was loaded, but umlauts did not work (äöü) and also the ß. This all works fine in text mode installer. Additionally "Shift" + "3" didn't worked correctly: in graphical installer output was "3", in text mode installer output was a blank space. Feel free to ask for logs, if needed. Kind regards Holger -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
