Bug#509662: graphical splash screen not iLO compatible
Frans Pop writes: > On Friday 26 December 2008, Daniel Pocock wrote: > When someone is accessing a server remotely using a HP iLO, they may not have the iLO licensed for graphical modes (extra license fees have to be paid to HP) Alternatively, someone may be using a serial port for remote access (e.g. through a Cisco 2511 with multiple async ports) >>> >>> This issue is covered in the Installation Guide >>> http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch05s01.html.en#boot-screen >> >> Thanks for pointing that out - the page correctly describes the issues. >> However, the instructions given there don't work for an iLO - blindly >> pressing keystrokes doesn't seem to work. > > Strange. It was tested by someone with access to iLO boxes. > Dann: could you retest this please? This is the same with Dell Remote Access Cards: at least some versions only support text mode, and what is worse, they don't even forward keystrokes while "waiting for video text mode". So up to the ISOLinux banner everything is fine, then you get a blank screen and no interaction at all. This is indeed very easy to work around when using netboot, but extremely annoying when booting from CD. And the solution is only and ESC away... One possible solution I can think of is having a couple of seconds timeout before loading vesamenu.c32, which an alert user could use to load menu.c32 instead, like this: $ cd debian-installer/i386/boot-screens $ mv syslinux.cfg graphical.cfg $ cat >syslinux.cfg prompt 1 timeout 30 default graphical say --- say Enter 'text' or wait 3 seconds for a graphical menu label graphical config debian-installer/i386/boot-screens/graphical.cfg label text config debian-installer/i386/boot-screens/text.cfg $ sed s/vesa// graphical.cfg >text.cfg The exithelp.cfg is pretty much mistaken (kernel and config exclude each other), but that's a minor point. I lightly tested the above with git syslinux components put into the netboot image of the Alpha1 Squeeze installer, and liked the result. What do you think? -- Cheers, Feri. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87hbl11ri5@tac.ki.iif.hu
Bug#509662: graphical splash screen not iLO compatible
On Friday 26 December 2008, Daniel Pocock wrote: > >> When someone is accessing a server remotely using a HP iLO, they may > >> not have the iLO licensed for graphical modes (extra license fees > >> have to be paid to HP) > >> > >> Alternatively, someone may be using a serial port for remote access > >> (e.g. through a Cisco 2511 with multiple async ports) > > > > This issue is covered in the Installation Guide > > http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch05s01.html.en#boot-screen > > Thanks for pointing that out - the page correctly describes the issues. > However, the instructions given there don't work for an iLO - blindly > pressing keystrokes doesn't seem to work. Strange. It was tested by someone with access to iLO boxes. Dann: could you retest this please? > I had already discovered the fb=false parameter, and by setting the > syslinux args default=expert, timeout=3 and setting the kernel arg > fb=false, I'm able to PXE boot into the installer. Eh, if you are using netboot, why don't you just modify the syslinux config on the tftp server to not use the graphical menu and splash screen at all? > > I'm tagging this report wontfix as I don't really see any realistic > > way to do anything about it. > > Couldn't it be recorded as a syslinux feature request? You are very welcome to discuss this issue with the upstream syslinux maintainers. This is not really the kind of issue for which it makes sense to record a wishlist BR in the Debian BTS. This needs to come from upstream. > Maybe the default configuration files could include commented out > variations of the workaround I've used myself, or even go as far as > distributing a netboot-nonfb.tar.gz on the mirrors? 1) It's too late to do that for Lenny 2) That would only solve the problem for netboot where it can be solved quite simply by the local admin anyway by editing the relevant syslinux config files on his tftp server. It would not solve the problem for CD/DVD images. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Bug#509662: graphical splash screen not iLO compatible
When the Debian installer is booted (either from CD or netboot), it displays a graphical splash screen (splash.rle) Hmm. Are you only talking about the splash screen (Etch installer) or (also) about the graphical boot menu used introduced in the Lenny installer? In this case, lenny - please excuse me for not understanding the details of this implementation When someone is accessing a server remotely using a HP iLO, they may not have the iLO licensed for graphical modes (extra license fees have to be paid to HP) Alternatively, someone may be using a serial port for remote access (e.g. through a Cisco 2511 with multiple async ports) For both Etch and Lenny this issue is covered in the Installation Guide. See the notes in the following pages: - http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/i386/ch05s01.html.en#boot-screen - http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch05s01.html.en#boot-screen Thanks for pointing that out - the page correctly describes the issues. However, the instructions given there don't work for an iLO - blindly pressing keystrokes doesn't seem to work. I had already discovered the fb=false parameter, and by setting the syslinux args default=expert, timeout=3 and setting the kernel arg fb=false, I'm able to PXE boot into the installer. Therefore, it would be desirable to have one of these options: - a non-graphical variation of the install CD We already have a huge number of installation media and variants... - a pause before entering graphical mode, with the user having the chance to press a key choosing non-graphical install - no use of graphics until the user has explicitly agreed AFAIK syslinux/isolinux does not offer those options. I'm tagging this report wontfix as I don't really see any realistic way to do anything about it. Couldn't it be recorded as a syslinux feature request? Maybe the default configuration files could include commented out variations of the workaround I've used myself, or even go as far as distributing a netboot-nonfb.tar.gz on the mirrors? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
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Bug#509662: graphical splash screen not iLO compatible
severity 509662 minor tags 509662 wontfix thanks On Wednesday 24 December 2008, Daniel Pocock wrote: > When the Debian installer is booted (either from CD or netboot), it > displays a graphical splash screen (splash.rle) Hmm. Are you only talking about the splash screen (Etch installer) or (also) about the graphical boot menu used introduced in the Lenny installer? > When someone is accessing a server remotely using a HP iLO, they may > not have the iLO licensed for graphical modes (extra license fees have > to be paid to HP) > > Alternatively, someone may be using a serial port for remote access > (e.g. through a Cisco 2511 with multiple async ports) For both Etch and Lenny this issue is covered in the Installation Guide. See the notes in the following pages: - http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/i386/ch05s01.html.en#boot-screen - http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch05s01.html.en#boot-screen > Therefore, it would be desirable to have one of these options: > - a non-graphical variation of the install CD We already have a huge number of installation media and variants... > - a pause before entering graphical mode, with the user having the > chance to press a key choosing non-graphical install > - no use of graphics until the user has explicitly agreed AFAIK syslinux/isolinux does not offer those options. I'm tagging this report wontfix as I don't really see any realistic way to do anything about it. Cheers, FJP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#509662: graphical splash screen not iLO compatible
Package: debian-installer When the Debian installer is booted (either from CD or netboot), it displays a graphical splash screen (splash.rle) When someone is accessing a server remotely using a HP iLO, they may not have the iLO licensed for graphical modes (extra license fees have to be paid to HP) Alternatively, someone may be using a serial port for remote access (e.g. through a Cisco 2511 with multiple async ports) Therefore, it would be desirable to have one of these options: - a non-graphical variation of the install CD - a pause before entering graphical mode, with the user having the chance to press a key choosing non-graphical install - no use of graphics until the user has explicitly agreed -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
