Bug#598126: FTBFS on !linux

2010-09-26 Thread Otavio Salvador
Hello Joey,

On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 8:55 PM, Joey Hess  wrote:
> Otavio Salvador wrote:
>> On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Joey Hess  wrote:
>> > Otavio Salvador wrote:
>> >> This looks to be the best alternative IMO. We need to do that for
>> >> /proc and /sys so /dev won't be a problem et all.
>> >
>> > Except that eg. pbuilder will mount /proc, but not /dev when using the
>> > chroot.
>>
>> Yes but should be trivial to fix.
>
> Chasing down the issue in everything that uses debootstrap seems hard to
> me..

All those tools are going to require the same fixes when adding
support for kFreeBSD and Hurd so the right time to change it looks to
be just after Squeeze.

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Bug#598126: FTBFS on !linux

2010-09-26 Thread Joey Hess
Otavio Salvador wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Joey Hess  wrote:
> > Otavio Salvador wrote:
> >> This looks to be the best alternative IMO. We need to do that for
> >> /proc and /sys so /dev won't be a problem et all.
> >
> > Except that eg. pbuilder will mount /proc, but not /dev when using the
> > chroot.
> 
> Yes but should be trivial to fix.

Chasing down the issue in everything that uses debootstrap seems hard to
me..

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Bug#598126: FTBFS on !linux

2010-09-26 Thread Otavio Salvador
On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Joey Hess  wrote:
> Otavio Salvador wrote:
>> This looks to be the best alternative IMO. We need to do that for
>> /proc and /sys so /dev won't be a problem et all.
>
> Except that eg. pbuilder will mount /proc, but not /dev when using the
> chroot.

Yes but should be trivial to fix.

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Bug#598126: FTBFS on !linux

2010-09-26 Thread Joey Hess
Otavio Salvador wrote:
> Hello Joey,
> 
> On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Joey Hess  wrote:
> > Alternatively, debootstrap could stop including the device tarball,
> > and bind mounting /dev. (It already does something similar on kfreebsd.)
> > However, this would mean a debootstrapped chroot would need to have its /dev
> > remounted after reboot (like its /proc and /sys already need to be).
> 
> This looks to be the best alternative IMO. We need to do that for
> /proc and /sys so /dev won't be a problem et all.

Except that eg. pbuilder will mount /proc, but not /dev when using the
chroot.

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Bug#598126: FTBFS on !linux

2010-09-26 Thread Otavio Salvador
Hello Joey,

On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Joey Hess  wrote:
> Alternatively, debootstrap could stop including the device tarball,
> and bind mounting /dev. (It already does something similar on kfreebsd.)
> However, this would mean a debootstrapped chroot would need to have its /dev
> remounted after reboot (like its /proc and /sys already need to be).

This looks to be the best alternative IMO. We need to do that for
/proc and /sys so /dev won't be a problem et all.

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Bug#598126: FTBFS on !linux

2010-09-26 Thread Joey Hess
Joey Hess wrote:
> Assuming we want debootstrap to remain an arch-all package, which is
> convenient as it allows updating debootstrap very quickly, we need
> some way to build the linux-specific devices.tar.gz in a cross-platform way.
> One way would be to add a switch or environment variable that made MAKEDEV
> skip the non-Linux system check.
> 
> Alternatively, debootstrap could stop including the device tarball,
> and bind mounting /dev. (It already does something similar on kfreebsd.)
> However, this would mean a debootstrapped chroot would need to have its /dev
> remounted after reboot (like its /proc and /sys already need to be).

Another option would be for debootstrap to drop devices.tar.gz and
instead install into the chroot the makedev package and run MAKEDEV if
/dev doesn't already contain console, stdin, null, and zero. makedev is
extra priority, but it should be ok for it to be present in debootstrapped
chroots. (And the admin can always remove it if desired.)

If anyone expects to be able to take a netinst cd and manually run
debootstrap against that, that would break it, as the netinst won't have
makedev. (But they could bind mount /dev the way d-i does).

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Bug#598126: FTBFS on !linux

2010-09-26 Thread Joey Hess
Package: debootstrap
Version: 1.0.25
Severity: normal

debootstrap cannot currently be built on debian kfreebsd or hurd. While
build dep makedev is installable there, it is a no-op. So, the devices.tar.gz
creation code will make an empty tarball, and a check I've just
added will cause the build to fail.

(cd dev && /dev/MAKEDEV std ptmx fd consoleonly)
Results undefined on non-Linux systems, aborting MAKEDEV invocation.
tar cf - dev | gzip -9 >devices.tar.gz
 ** devices.tar.gz is empty!
make: *** [devices.tar.gz] Error 1

(Note: Above dummied up. I have not really been building debootstrap on
freebsd, if anyone was curious about that.)

Assuming we want debootstrap to remain an arch-all package, which is
convenient as it allows updating debootstrap very quickly, we need
some way to build the linux-specific devices.tar.gz in a cross-platform way.
One way would be to add a switch or environment variable that made MAKEDEV
skip the non-Linux system check.

Alternatively, debootstrap could stop including the device tarball,
and bind mounting /dev. (It already does something similar on kfreebsd.)
However, this would mean a debootstrapped chroot would need to have its /dev
remounted after reboot (like its /proc and /sys already need to be).

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