Bug#650239: Hello?

2011-12-09 Thread Miguel Figueiredo

Hi all,

i have exchanged a few emails about this report, so far from what i 
understood from the problem:

- installs OK from stable CD;
	- when updating, after installation from CD, graphic system gets borked 
after rebooting;

- updates don't work;

I'm not sure if there's any benefit from leaving this BR open.


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Melhores cumprimentos/Best regards,

Miguel Figueiredo
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Holy kay-rap, youse guys are starting really, really to get on my nerves!
 I blew a half a hectobuck on your eight-disc CD set (6.0.3, 32-bit) and
when I was getting ready to load the #1 disc I noticed a silvery spot on
its data side, fully a 16th of an inch in diameter and visible at a
distance of forty feet to a one-eyed wino.  I tried to test it via a full
copy of the disc to my hard drive and didn't get any errors but, sure
enough, when I tried to install it it failed, saying it was unable to load
the installation data.  Big surprise, eh?

So, summarizing:

I have made four or five attempts with your single CD, which turns out to
be catastrophically incompatible with your online updates.

After my first few CD failures I tried downloading the installer online,
but that refused to load directly to a CD and I was never instructed how to
convert the CD I transferred it onto into a *boot* disc.  So I spent a few
hours trying to figure that out, and a few more hours trying to trick it
into installing after I booted separately.  No instructions about this from
the netsite, just choose the version you want, download it, and install.
 Thanks a lot -- I had to give up and go back to the CD.

And now I have the (far from free) *eight-CD* set and it's totally freaking
useless!

Meanwhile, through all this, I'm fighting a complete lack of useful
instructions, getting apparent inactivity without progress bars, rotating
cursors, or drive-light activity,  wondering whether I'm supposed to do
something or not, getting hung out to dry over and over again, being
offered options with no idea of what the answer should be, and generally
wasting two weeks of effort on software that simply isn't designed for
people who don't already know all the answers.

Incidentally, for your information, I have a master's degree in computer
science and more than three decades professional experience in programming
embedded systems and automated QA systems.  I'm not fully acquainted with
PC systems, but that never bothered me when I was dealing with suppliers
who had the maturity to look at their product through the eyes of their
users and provide a usable package.  So, Debian is free (but not for me, it
turns out) and one should be patient?  Well, I've just been through a half
a month of patience, and I'm afraid I'm fresh out

I'm *done with Debian, *so Ay-Dee-Ose!

B
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(Don't waste any time flaming me back, because I'm putting you on Chrome
mute and I won't even see you go by.)








On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 12:05, Miguel Figueiredo el...@debianpt.org wrote:

 On 06-12-2011 14:30, Pa Blum wrote:

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 ...yes, and yes.  The first yes in that I'm using a ten-buck Live
 Install CD (which is mysteriously referred to as a DVD) in 6.0,
 32-bit form.  The second yes in that that's what I'm running the
 Manager Update on.


 Can you try an image from here:

 http://www.debian.org/**releases/squeeze/debian-**installer/http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/debian-installer/

 Official, 'normal' image - not 'live'.


 Thanks for your interest,


 It's free software, it's how we give back ;-)

  PaB


 Miguel


 

 On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 13:53, Miguel Figueiredo el...@debianpt.org
 mailto:el...@debianpt.org wrote:

Hi,

[...]


But when I do the first (and all following) restarts it boots up

with a completely scrambled GUI, even in the log-in screen which
i can
get past because I can answer it with keyboard entries without
 being
able to see it(!)


[...]

Humm, I suspect on graphic kernel module borked.
So it's not installer fault :)
You are using stable? and also updated in stable?





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Melhores cumprimentos/Best regards,

Miguel Figueiredo



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 Melhores cumprimentos/Best regards,

 Miguel Figueiredo

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Re: Bug#650239: Hello?

2011-12-05 Thread Herbert Kaminski
On Sun, 4 Dec 2011 10:43:17 -0800
Pa Blum prr.4...@gmail.com wrote:

 Are you guys going to help me or ain't you?

Not that I am one of you guys, but I can predict that if you
do not tell them more precisely what you tried to install,
they cannot help you. There is a nice template at:
http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/ch05s04.html#submit-bug
down at item 5.4.6 that shows you what is needed.

Hope this helps
  Herbert

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Bug#650239: Hello?

2011-12-05 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Pa Blum (prr.4...@gmail.com):
 Are you guys going to help me or ain't you?


As the problems you're reported are not related to the installer
itself, it doesn't seem anyone is willing to. Your initial bug report
is indeed apparently reported against the wrong package but,
apparently again, nobody did the analysis work to see where to
reassign this.

I wonder why indeedthough I probably have a clue about the reasons
that made everybody in the list ignore this report until now.

Sorry for being unhelpful but at least consider that the problem quite
certainly doesn't lie in debian installer itself.




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Bug#650239: Hello?

2011-12-05 Thread Miguel Figueiredo

Hi,

Yesterday i did an installation with debian-i386-6.0.3 and i got, as 
usual, 'tasksel' in which i selected Desktop task to install and it went 
OK (as usual).


If you provide the installation log from the installation with problems 
maybe someone can take a look.
To be honest, in dozens of installations i never seen the problem you 
initially report.


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Miguel Figueiredo



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Bug#650239: Hello?

2011-12-04 Thread Pa Blum
Are you guys going to help me or ain't you?

For some reason during installation the configure the package manager is
just skipped, so Synaptic can't work, Chrome can't install, and updates are
either not found or disastrous.  The file libcard3. (without a hyphenated
addition to the filename) is not present, among others.  How do I initiate
configuring the package manager?

I repeat: Are you guys going to help me or ain't you?

PaB