Bug#699390: debian-policy: soften the wording recommending menu files
Quoting Moritz Muehlenhoff (j...@inutil.org): Eight months later we're now in the jessie cycle. Can we drop menu from the desktop task now? Sure! I simply completely forgot about that item..:-) I just committed a fix that drops menu from task-desktop and menu-xdg from task-kde-desktop. And tasksel is now building with that fix. Let's move on. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#699390: debian-policy: soften the wording recommending menu files
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 02:04:01AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: Hi Russ, hi Sune, I'd like to second this request to reword the current section in the policy regarding menu files, suggesting fdo .desktop files as the recommended mechanism and make it clear that .menu files are only really relevant for legacy or more exotic window managers. Sune's patch looks fine to me. As Sune already pointed out, the addition of menu-xdg actually is harmful in case of modern DEs like KDE or GNOME, where the entries generated via menu-xdg, duplicate a lot of existing entries, with no icons or low res bitmaps, not translations etc and clutter it up in a very bad way. In GNOME shell this even leads to wrong application tracking, if the wrong menu entry is chosen. That's why we decided to actively hide the Debian menu. Regarding the same issue, I talked to Christian, as tasksel co-maintainer, a while ago, to drop menu from the desktop task. If my memory serves me well, he basically agreed, but was worried, that my request came rather late into the wheezy release, so I've filed [1] and hope we can resolve that for jessie. Eight months later we're now in the jessie cycle. Can we drop menu from the desktop task now? Cheers, Moritz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140122192733.ga8...@inutil.org
Bug#699390: debian-policy: soften the wording recommending menu files
Hi Russ, hi Sune, I'd like to second this request to reword the current section in the policy regarding menu files, suggesting fdo .desktop files as the recommended mechanism and make it clear that .menu files are only really relevant for legacy or more exotic window managers. Sune's patch looks fine to me. As Sune already pointed out, the addition of menu-xdg actually is harmful in case of modern DEs like KDE or GNOME, where the entries generated via menu-xdg, duplicate a lot of existing entries, with no icons or low res bitmaps, not translations etc and clutter it up in a very bad way. In GNOME shell this even leads to wrong application tracking, if the wrong menu entry is chosen. That's why we decided to actively hide the Debian menu. Regarding the same issue, I talked to Christian, as tasksel co-maintainer, a while ago, to drop menu from the desktop task. If my memory serves me well, he basically agreed, but was worried, that my request came rather late into the wheezy release, so I've filed [1] and hope we can resolve that for jessie. Regards, Michael [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=699390 -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#699390: debian-policy: soften the wording recommending menu files
On Sat 11 May 2013 21:04:01 Michael Biebl escribió: Hi Russ, hi Sune, I'd like to second this request to reword the current section in the policy regarding menu files, suggesting fdo .desktop files as the recommended mechanism and make it clear that .menu files are only really relevant for legacy or more exotic window managers. Sune's patch looks fine to me. +1 from my side too. -- Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer http://perezmeyer.com.ar/ http://perezmeyer.blogspot.com/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
