Bug#762614: stop preseeding desktop
Control: tag -1 pending Joey Hess jo...@debian.org (2014-09-23): Package: debian-installer Severity: normal Tags: patch Once tasksel 3.27 is in testing, but not before, d-i should stop preseeding desktop=xfce for kfreebsd and hurd. This version of tasksel defaults to xfce for those architectures and will handle any other architecture variations in a single place. Thanks, pushed to master. Mraw, KiBi. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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Processing control commands: tag -1 pending Bug #762614 [debian-installer] stop preseeding desktop Added tag(s) pending. -- 762614: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=762614 Debian Bug Tracking System Contact ow...@bugs.debian.org with problems -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/handler.s.b762614.141194496027224.transcr...@bugs.debian.org
Bug#762614: stop preseeding desktop
Package: debian-installer
Severity: normal
Tags: patch
Once tasksel 3.27 is in testing, but not before, d-i should stop
preseeding desktop=xfce for kfreebsd and hurd. This version of tasksel
defaults to xfce for those architectures and will handle any other
architecture variations in a single place.
--
see shy jo
From 742e335531a1ed27757db3b3ce95bc330e7d51f6 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Joey Hess j...@kitenet.net
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 14:59:10 -0400
Subject: [PATCH] remove desktop=xfce preseeding
Moved to tasksel 3.27.
---
build/boot/hurd/grub-hurd-cdrom.cfg | 2 +-
build/boot/hurd/grub-hurd-pxe.cfg | 2 +-
build/boot/kfreebsd/grub-kfreebsd-cdrom.cfg | 4
build/boot/kfreebsd/grub-kfreebsd-pxe.cfg | 4
build/config/kfreebsd.cfg | 2 --
5 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 12 deletions(-)
diff --git a/build/boot/hurd/grub-hurd-cdrom.cfg b/build/boot/hurd/grub-hurd-cdrom.cfg
index cf93789..b50ceb5 100644
--- a/build/boot/hurd/grub-hurd-cdrom.cfg
+++ b/build/boot/hurd/grub-hurd-cdrom.cfg
@@ -37,7 +37,7 @@ menuentry {
function boot_one {
echo Loading ...
set root=$cd
- multiboot /boot/kernel/gnumach.gz $options desktop=xfce
+ multiboot /boot/kernel/gnumach.gz $options
module --nounzip /boot/${gtk}initrd.gz initrd '$(ramdisk-create)'
module /boot/kernel/ext2fs.static ext2fs \
--multiboot-command-line='${kernel-command-line}' \
diff --git a/build/boot/hurd/grub-hurd-pxe.cfg b/build/boot/hurd/grub-hurd-pxe.cfg
index b45dee1..b5c9fc3 100644
--- a/build/boot/hurd/grub-hurd-pxe.cfg
+++ b/build/boot/hurd/grub-hurd-pxe.cfg
@@ -28,7 +28,7 @@ menuentry {
function boot_one {
echo Loading ...
set root=$cd
- multiboot $prefix/gnumach.gz $options desktop=xfce
+ multiboot $prefix/gnumach.gz $options
module --nounzip /boot/${gtk}initrd.gz initrd '$(ramdisk-create)'
module /boot/kernel/ext2fs.static ext2fs \
--multiboot-command-line='${kernel-command-line}' \
diff --git a/build/boot/kfreebsd/grub-kfreebsd-cdrom.cfg b/build/boot/kfreebsd/grub-kfreebsd-cdrom.cfg
index a12c622..c252410 100644
--- a/build/boot/kfreebsd/grub-kfreebsd-cdrom.cfg
+++ b/build/boot/kfreebsd/grub-kfreebsd-cdrom.cfg
@@ -26,10 +26,6 @@ else
set menu_color_highlight=white/blue
fi
-# See archived discussion:
-# http://lists.debian.org/debian-bsd/2011/09/msg00051.html
-set kFreeBSD.desktop=xfce
-
menuentry Debian GNU/kFreeBSD installer boot menu {
true
}
diff --git a/build/boot/kfreebsd/grub-kfreebsd-pxe.cfg b/build/boot/kfreebsd/grub-kfreebsd-pxe.cfg
index 72a601e..03f242b 100644
--- a/build/boot/kfreebsd/grub-kfreebsd-pxe.cfg
+++ b/build/boot/kfreebsd/grub-kfreebsd-pxe.cfg
@@ -17,10 +17,6 @@ else
set menu_color_highlight=white/blue
fi
-# See archived discussion:
-# http://lists.debian.org/debian-bsd/2011/09/msg00051.html
-set kFreeBSD.desktop=xfce
-
menuentry Debian GNU/kFreeBSD installer boot menu {
true
}
diff --git a/build/config/kfreebsd.cfg b/build/config/kfreebsd.cfg
index fe3df2b..d4cd148 100644
--- a/build/config/kfreebsd.cfg
+++ b/build/config/kfreebsd.cfg
@@ -52,7 +52,6 @@ arch_cd_info_dir:
(printf [installer]\n; \
printf kernel=kfreebsd\n; \
printf arch=$(subst kfreebsd-,,$(ARCH))\n; \
- printf default_desktop=xfce\n; \
#if [ -n $(INITRD_GTK) ]; then \
# printf $(ARCH)/kfreebsd=boot/kernel/kfreebsd.gz\n$(ARCH)/kfreebsd_module=boot/mfsroot.gz\n; \
# printf $(ARCH)/gtk/kfreebsd=boot/kernel/kfreebsd.gz\n$(ARCH)/gtk/kfreebsd_module=boot/gtk/mfsroot.gz\n; \
@@ -95,7 +94,6 @@ arch_miniiso: $(TEMP_INITRD) $(TEMP_KERNEL) $(TREE)
(printf [installer]\n; \
printf kernel=kfreebsd\n; \
printf arch=$(subst kfreebsd-,,$(ARCH))\n; \
- printf default_desktop=xfce\n; \
if [ $(TYPE) = netboot/gtk ]; then \
printf user_interface=graphical\n; \
printf $(ARCH)/gtk/kfreebsd=boot/kernel/kfreebsd.gz\n$(ARCH)/gtk/kfreebsd_module=boot/mfsroot.gz\n; \
--
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Bug#762614: stop preseeding desktop
Hi, On 14:59, Joey Hess wrote: Once tasksel 3.27 is in testing, but not before, d-i should stop preseeding desktop=xfce for kfreebsd and hurd. This version of tasksel defaults to xfce for those architectures and will handle any other architecture variations in a single place. Agreed, although we should try evaluate if XFCE is still the best default for these (and perhaps find something that caters to other situations where GNOME isn't viable) I've created a spin-off page to discuss alternatives: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianDesktop/Alternative/Jessie Regards, -- Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140923192632.gb6...@squeeze.pyro.eu.org
Re: Bug#762614: stop preseeding desktop
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 08:26:32PM +0100, Steven Chamberlain wrote: Hi, On 14:59, Joey Hess wrote: Once tasksel 3.27 is in testing, but not before, d-i should stop preseeding desktop=xfce for kfreebsd and hurd. This version of tasksel defaults to xfce for those architectures and will handle any other architecture variations in a single place. Agreed, although we should try evaluate if XFCE is still the best default for these (and perhaps find something that caters to other situations where GNOME isn't viable) After all this time (what is it? over a year now?) I thought the new Gnome might have improved and become viable. I tried it last weekend. It still isn't viable. I can't even figure out how to log out. Not what I want a beginner confronted with. -- hendrik I've created a spin-off page to discuss alternatives: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianDesktop/Alternative/Jessie Regards, -- Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140923192632.gb6...@squeeze.pyro.eu.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140923193129.ga11...@topoi.pooq.com
Re: Bug#762614: stop preseeding desktop
On 15:31, Hendrik Boom wrote: [GNOME] still isn't viable. I can't even figure out how to log out. Not what I want a beginner confronted with. Perhaps there's a more positive-sounding way to describe this as a criterion and I could add it to the alternative desktop Wiki page. Familiarity (for users migrating from another OS?? POLA? There is even an ISO standard 9241-110 for Dialogue principles https://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Usability/HIG/Animata Regards, -- Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140923195451.gc6...@squeeze.pyro.eu.org
Bug#762614: stop preseeding desktop
Steven Chamberlain wrote: Agreed, although we should try evaluate if XFCE is still the best default for these (and perhaps find something that caters to other situations where GNOME isn't viable) As far as I'm concerned, this decision is up to the porters for an architecture. If there is more than one candidate that works well on their architecture, we can use the Requalification/Jessie information to rank them. There is also the potential for tasksel to look at properties of the system and fall back to eg, a lighter desktop, or a configuration that works better on a tablet. My changes to tasksel support such things, but it would be up to interested developers to write such code. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#762614: stop preseeding desktop
On 16:04, Joey Hess wrote: There is also the potential for tasksel to look at properties of the system and fall back to eg, a lighter desktop, or a configuration that works better on a tablet. My changes to tasksel support such things, but it would be up to interested developers to write such code. If installing offline from CD-1 for example, we can only install whatever is on the disc already. Does tasksel handle that situation at all? Or will it now (due to the change of default) suggest GNOME, but fail due to the missing packages? Regards, -- Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140923202552.gd6...@squeeze.pyro.eu.org
Re: Bug#762614: stop preseeding desktop
Hendrik Boom wrote: After all this time (what is it? over a year now?) I thought the new Gnome might have improved and become viable. I tried it last weekend. It still isn't viable. I can't even figure out how to log out. Given that Debian has already shipped a stable release with Gnome 3, and that debian-user does not seem to be overflowing with posts from users who cannot figure out how to log out of their desktop, I think your experience may be an outlier. In any case, this thread is not about the default desktop selection. Please don't post offtopic things to bug report threads. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#762614: stop preseeding desktop
Steven Chamberlain wrote: On 16:04, Joey Hess wrote: There is also the potential for tasksel to look at properties of the system and fall back to eg, a lighter desktop, or a configuration that works better on a tablet. My changes to tasksel support such things, but it would be up to interested developers to write such code. If installing offline from CD-1 for example, we can only install whatever is on the disc already. Does tasksel handle that situation at all? Or will it now (due to the change of default) suggest GNOME, but fail due to the missing packages? Tasksel has never presented tasks that are unavailable for installation. (This seems offtopic to what this bug report is about.) -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Bug#762614: stop preseeding desktop
Joey Hess wrote: Hendrik Boom wrote: After all this time (what is it? over a year now?) I thought the new Gnome might have improved and become viable. I tried it last weekend. It still isn't viable. I can't even figure out how to log out. Given that Debian has already shipped a stable release with Gnome 3, and that debian-user does not seem to be overflowing with posts from users who cannot figure out how to log out of their desktop, I think your experience may be an outlier. Speaking as a user who is also a newbie I can suggest why there would not be much comment about Gnome3. If you recognize it as useless, the Wheezy installer facilitates alternative DE's. In my case I favor Gnome2's look-n-feel enough that I will stay with Squeeze until learning how to tweak one of the other DE's to my satisfaction. HTH In any case, this thread is not about the default desktop selection. Please don't post offtopic things to bug report threads. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/542220af.5070...@cloud85.net
