Re: Bug#762762: Updating isc-dhcp udeb to dynamically link bind

2014-11-02 Thread Cyril Brulebois
[ Fact checking needed. ]

Michael Gilbert  (2014-11-02):
> Is it possibly a one or two line diff to change back to isc-dhcp?  If
> so, it is possible that it may be considered.

No.

> Since isc-dhcp was the wheezy default […]

No.

Mraw,
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Re: Bug#762762: Updating isc-dhcp udeb to dynamically link bind

2014-11-02 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Steven Chamberlain wrote:
> On 31/10/14 10:44, Michael Tokarev wrote:
>> Is it on kfreebsd, or on linux kernel too?  I wonder maybe we should
>> switch to isc-dhcp on all variants/arches, and ditch udhcpc...
>
> Linux d-i only uses udhcpc at the moment.  (Ubuntu uses isc-dhcp though
> IIRC).  We did discuss converging on a single DHCP client across all
> Debian architectures, but:
>
>   * it's way too late to do this for jessie, I doubt KiBi would even
> hear of it!  d-i can be very sensitive to changes and this might break
> in non-obvious use cases that don't get tested much

Is it possibly a one or two line diff to change back to isc-dhcp?  If
so, it is possible that it may be considered.  Is that set in netcfg?

Since isc-dhcp was the wheezy default and there are quite a few issues
(including RC ones) stemming from udhcpc, it probably makes a lot of
sense to go back to what's known to work well.

Best wishes,
Mike


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Re: Bug#762762: Updating isc-dhcp udeb to dynamically link bind

2014-10-31 Thread Steven Chamberlain
On 31/10/14 10:44, Michael Tokarev wrote:
> Is it on kfreebsd, or on linux kernel too?  I wonder maybe we should
> switch to isc-dhcp on all variants/arches, and ditch udhcpc...

Linux d-i only uses udhcpc at the moment.  (Ubuntu uses isc-dhcp though
IIRC).  We did discuss converging on a single DHCP client across all
Debian architectures, but:

  * it's way too late to do this for jessie, I doubt KiBi would even
hear of it!  d-i can be very sensitive to changes and this might break
in non-obvious use cases that don't get tested much

  * for jessie+1, I think it's still early to decide this yet.  I know
that systemd will have a DHCP client - d-i doesn't currently use
systemd, but who knows what could happen in 2 years;  we also don't know
yet if there'll be a kfreebsd in jessie+1 officially

So I think we might come back to this a while after jessie is released.

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Re: Bug#762762: Updating isc-dhcp udeb to dynamically link bind

2014-10-31 Thread Herbert Kaminski
On Fri, 31 Oct 2014 13:44:25 +0300
Michael Tokarev  wrote:
> 31.10.2014 13:42, Herbert Kaminski wrote:
> > Just tested the netinst daily image as of 2014-10-31: 
> > dhcp now works again in the installer.
> 
> Is it on kfreebsd, or on linux kernel too?  I wonder maybe we should
> switch to isc-dhcp on all variants/arches, and ditch udhcpc...

I tested the linux netinst-amd64 daily yesterday, and DHCP was OK. I do
linux test installations about once a week and never saw a DHCP problem.
  Herbert

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Re: Bug#762762: Updating isc-dhcp udeb to dynamically link bind

2014-10-31 Thread Michael Tokarev
31.10.2014 13:42, Herbert Kaminski wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Oct 2014 22:37:24 +
> Steven Chamberlain  wrote:
> 
>> On 20/10/14 01:09, Michael Gilbert wrote:
>>> The new isc-dhcp is now uploaded.  Please let me know how your testing goes.
>>
>> After the upload of bind9/1:9.9.5.dfsg-5, this does seem to be working
>> well now in sid d-i.  Thanks.
> 
> Just tested the netinst daily image as of 2014-10-31: 
> dhcp now works again in the installer.

Is it on kfreebsd, or on linux kernel too?  I wonder maybe we should
switch to isc-dhcp on all variants/arches, and ditch udhcpc...

Thanks,

/mjt


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Re: Bug#762762: Updating isc-dhcp udeb to dynamically link bind (was: Bug#762762: nmu fixing bind issues)

2014-10-31 Thread Herbert Kaminski
On Thu, 30 Oct 2014 22:37:24 +
Steven Chamberlain  wrote:

> On 20/10/14 01:09, Michael Gilbert wrote:
> > The new isc-dhcp is now uploaded.  Please let me know how your testing goes.
> 
> After the upload of bind9/1:9.9.5.dfsg-5, this does seem to be working
> well now in sid d-i.  Thanks.

Just tested the netinst daily image as of 2014-10-31: 
dhcp now works again in the installer.

Regards,
  Herbert

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Re: Bug#762762: Updating isc-dhcp udeb to dynamically link bind (was: Bug#762762: nmu fixing bind issues)

2014-10-30 Thread Steven Chamberlain
On 20/10/14 01:09, Michael Gilbert wrote:
> The new isc-dhcp is now uploaded.  Please let me know how your testing goes.

After the upload of bind9/1:9.9.5.dfsg-5, this does seem to be working
well now in sid d-i.  Thanks.

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Re: Bug#762762: Updating isc-dhcp udeb to dynamically link bind (was: Bug#762762: nmu fixing bind issues)

2014-10-20 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 9:11 PM, Steven Chamberlain wrote:
> On 00:52, Steven Chamberlain wrote:
>> Michael Gilbert wrote:
>> > Would it be ok to stage the changes in unstable to make it somewhat
>> > easy for porters to test?
>>
>> I don't particularly need that as I can build the udebs and d-i image
>> from them myself.  But doing so would allow others to be testing it
>> meanwhile, so I'm okay with it.
>
> Did you already make a new version of the isc-dhcp package based on
> these new export udebs?  If so, where can I find it?

Hi Steven,

The new isc-dhcp is now uploaded.  Please let me know how your testing goes.

Best wishes,
Mike


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Re: Bug#762762: Updating isc-dhcp udeb to dynamically link bind (was: Bug#762762: nmu fixing bind issues)

2014-10-07 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 9:11 PM, Steven Chamberlain wrote:
> On 00:52, Steven Chamberlain wrote:
>> Michael Gilbert wrote:
>> > Would it be ok to stage the changes in unstable to make it somewhat
>> > easy for porters to test?
>>
>> I don't particularly need that as I can build the udebs and d-i image
>> from them myself.  But doing so would allow others to be testing it
>> meanwhile, so I'm okay with it.
>
> Did you already make a new version of the isc-dhcp package based on
> these new export udebs?  If so, where can I find it?

No, not yet.  Will probably get to that tomorrow.

Best wishes,
Mike


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Re: Bug#762762: Updating isc-dhcp udeb to dynamically link bind (was: Bug#762762: nmu fixing bind issues)

2014-10-06 Thread Steven Chamberlain
On 00:52, Steven Chamberlain wrote:
> Michael Gilbert wrote:
> > Would it be ok to stage the changes in unstable to make it somewhat
> > easy for porters to test?
> 
> I don't particularly need that as I can build the udebs and d-i image
> from them myself.  But doing so would allow others to be testing it
> meanwhile, so I'm okay with it.

Did you already make a new version of the isc-dhcp package based on
these new export udebs?  If so, where can I find it?

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Re: Bug#762762: Updating isc-dhcp udeb to dynamically link bind (was: Bug#762762: nmu fixing bind issues)

2014-10-06 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Steven Chamberlain  (2014-10-07):
> I will try to find time to do this.  Probably it is desirable, because
> it should reduce the overall size of udebs in the installer ramdisks?

I'm not sure how moving from an embedded code copy to shared libraries
across several udebs but used by a single udeb is going to help reduce
anything as far as size is concerned.

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Re: Bug#762762: Updating isc-dhcp udeb to dynamically link bind (was: Bug#762762: nmu fixing bind issues)

2014-10-06 Thread Steven Chamberlain
Michael Gilbert wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 9:59 PM, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> > I'm not going to go through building this on a kfreebsd porterbox to try
> > and figure out how isc-dhcp would look if rebuilt against such packages,
> > but that looks a saner base for porters to build upon.
> >
> > That doesn't make the timing issues I've mentioned disappear though. I'm
> > OK with thinking about it again if porters endorse/welcome/successfully
> > test the resulting packages and installation images.

I will try to find time to do this.  Probably it is desirable, because it
should reduce the overall size of udebs in the installer ramdisks?

> Would it be ok to stage the changes in unstable to make it somewhat
> easy for porters to test?

I don't particularly need that as I can build the udebs and d-i image
from them myself.  But doing so would allow others to be testing it
meanwhile, so I'm okay with it.

Thanks,
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Re: Bug#762762: Updating isc-dhcp udeb to dynamically link bind (was: Bug#762762: nmu fixing bind issues)

2014-10-05 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Michael Gilbert  (2014-10-05):
> Would it be ok to stage the changes in unstable to make it somewhat
> easy for porters to test?

Since D-I Jessie Beta 2 is out I can't think of a reason why that
wouldn't be a good idea.

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Re: Bug#762762: Updating isc-dhcp udeb to dynamically link bind (was: Bug#762762: nmu fixing bind issues)

2014-10-05 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 9:59 PM, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> I'm not going to go through building this on a kfreebsd porterbox to try
> and figure out how isc-dhcp would look if rebuilt against such packages,
> but that looks a saner base for porters to build upon.
>
> That doesn't make the timing issues I've mentioned disappear though. I'm
> OK with thinking about it again if porters endorse/welcome/successfully
> test the resulting packages and installation images.

Thanks for the feedback.

Would it be ok to stage the changes in unstable to make it somewhat
easy for porters to test?

Best wishes,
Mike


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