Re: Bug#783358: installation-reports: Debian 8 CD - Graphical install is not the default (installation guide says it should be)
Le dimanche, 3 mai 2015, 22.22:17 Cyril Brulebois a écrit : Hello, Holger Wansing li...@wansing-online.de (2015-05-03): So, shall I revert the manual back to text install is default? Yes please. I asked Didier to keep an eye on it but he pretended being busy with other topics. ;) Ah sorry, I didn't understand your request that way. :) The current status is that jessie has the text install by default, and we're most probably not going to toggle this now that jessie is out. I see you've changed the manual to reflect this, thanks. As for stretch, I've pushed the change to the installer to make the graphical installer the default, so we'll need to update the manual in due time. Cheers, OdyX signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Bug#783358: installation-reports: Debian 8 CD - Graphical install is not the default (installation guide says it should be)
On Mon, May 04, 2015 at 11:31:20PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: (Not sure why To/Cc were changed this way, but replying there anyway…) Hendrik Boom hend...@topoi.pooq.com (2015-05-04): On Sun, May 03, 2015 at 10:22:17PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Hello, Holger Wansing li...@wansing-online.de (2015-05-03): So, shall I revert the manual back to text install is default? Yes please. I asked Didier to keep an eye on it but he pretended being busy with other topics. ;) On the off-chance that this is a francism in English, and someone might be offended, 'pretended' in English means 'acted as if', whereas 'pretendre' in French means 'to claim', or to 'assert'. I presume that Didier was really busy with other topics, rather than acting as if he was busy. Without claiming to master all aspects of the English language, I think I meant what I wrote. Pretty sure Didier can react on his own if he feels offended by casual teasing followed by a smiley (and preceded by the same kind of remark in an earlier IRC conversation)… KiBi. That's fine, then. When I first moved to Quebec and started reading stuff and listening to the radio in both languages I found myself pretty confused the news I was reading because of the persistent use of 'pretend' and 'pretendre' as translaatis for each other. It took a while before I figured out what was happening. It's pretty common here, but not elsewhere, to hear 'pretend' used in English with the wrong meaning. In fact the 'claim' meaning has survived in orthodox English in the archaic phrase 'pretender to the throne'. My grade school English teacher was puzzled why anyone would be upset about someone merely pretending to be king. It wasn't until decades later that I figured out what was going on with the word. -- hendrik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150504214213.gb...@topoi.pooq.com
Re: Bug#783358: installation-reports: Debian 8 CD - Graphical install is not the default (installation guide says it should be)
(Not sure why To/Cc were changed this way, but replying there anyway…) Hendrik Boom hend...@topoi.pooq.com (2015-05-04): On Sun, May 03, 2015 at 10:22:17PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Hello, Holger Wansing li...@wansing-online.de (2015-05-03): So, shall I revert the manual back to text install is default? Yes please. I asked Didier to keep an eye on it but he pretended being busy with other topics. ;) On the off-chance that this is a francism in English, and someone might be offended, 'pretended' in English means 'acted as if', whereas 'pretendre' in French means 'to claim', or to 'assert'. I presume that Didier was really busy with other topics, rather than acting as if he was busy. Without claiming to master all aspects of the English language, I think I meant what I wrote. Pretty sure Didier can react on his own if he feels offended by casual teasing followed by a smiley (and preceded by the same kind of remark in an earlier IRC conversation)… KiBi. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Bug#783358: installation-reports: Debian 8 CD - Graphical install is not the default (installation guide says it should be)
On Sun, May 03, 2015 at 10:22:17PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Hello, Holger Wansing li...@wansing-online.de (2015-05-03): So, shall I revert the manual back to text install is default? Yes please. I asked Didier to keep an eye on it but he pretended being busy with other topics. ;) On the off-chance that this is a francism in English, and someone might be offended, 'pretended' in English means 'acted as if', whereas 'pretendre' in French means 'to claim', or to 'assert'. I presume that Didier was really busy with other topics, rather than acting as if he was busy. (Or will the default be changed with a point release of Jessie, or something like that? In that case it's probably not worse to change the manual.) Such a change in jessie wouldn't seem reasonable to me. Mraw, KiBi. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150504210809.ga...@topoi.pooq.com
Bug#783358: installation-reports: Debian 8 CD - Graphical install is not the default (installation guide says it should be)
Hello, Holger Wansing li...@wansing-online.de (2015-05-03): So, shall I revert the manual back to text install is default? Yes please. I asked Didier to keep an eye on it but he pretended being busy with other topics. ;) (Or will the default be changed with a point release of Jessie, or something like that? In that case it's probably not worse to change the manual.) Such a change in jessie wouldn't seem reasonable to me. Mraw, KiBi. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#783358: installation-reports: Debian 8 CD - Graphical install is not the default (installation guide says it should be)
Hi, Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org wrote: Alan Jenkins alan.christopher.jenk...@gmail.com (2015-04-26): Package: installation-reports Severity: normal I've just installed debian-8.0.0-amd64-CD-1.iso in a virtual machine. By default, the Install entry was selected. But the install guide says the default should be Graphical install. So maybe the default needs changing on the CD. I have _not_ tried the DVD, but maybe that defaults to graphical and it's what the author checked. Hi Alan, yes, switching to graphical install by default was the plan but that didn't happen. I think it was spotted a few hours/days before the release, and I thought the docs were updated. That'll get checked by one of us shortly. So, shall I revert the manual back to text install is default? (Or will the default be changed with a point release of Jessie, or something like that? In that case it's probably not worse to change the manual.) Holger -- Created with Sylpheed 3.2.0 under D E B I A N L I N U X 7 . 0 W H E E Z Y ! Registered Linux User #311290 - https://linuxcounter.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150503205228.8dd58adaf7db66443717f...@wansing-online.de
Bug#783358: installation-reports: Debian 8 CD - Graphical install is not the default (installation guide says it should be)
Alan Jenkins alan.christopher.jenk...@gmail.com (2015-04-26): Package: installation-reports Severity: normal I've just installed debian-8.0.0-amd64-CD-1.iso in a virtual machine. By default, the Install entry was selected. But the install guide says the default should be Graphical install. So maybe the default needs changing on the CD. I have _not_ tried the DVD, but maybe that defaults to graphical and it's what the author checked. Hi Alan, yes, switching to graphical install by default was the plan but that didn't happen. I think it was spotted a few hours/days before the release, and I thought the docs were updated. That'll get checked by one of us shortly. Mraw, KiBi. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#783358: installation-reports: Debian 8 CD - Graphical install is not the default (installation guide says it should be)
Package: installation-reports Severity: normal I've just installed debian-8.0.0-amd64-CD-1.iso in a virtual machine. By default, the Install entry was selected. But the install guide says the default should be Graphical install. So maybe the default needs changing on the CD. I have _not_ tried the DVD, but maybe that defaults to graphical and it's what the author checked. Happy Debian release day! Alan -- Package-specific info: Boot method: CD drive of virtual machine (GNOME Boxes) Image version: debian-8.0.0-amd64-CD-1.iso Date: Sun 26 Apr 2015 Machine: GNOME Boxes virtual machine host, from Fedora 21 Partitions: $ lsblk NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT sda 8:00 20G 0 disk ├─sda1 8:10 19.1G 0 part / ├─sda2 8:201K 0 part └─sda5 8:50 880M 0 part [SWAP] sr0 11:01 627M 0 rom Base System Installation Checklist: [O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it Initial boot: [ O ] Detect network card:[ O ] Configure network: [ O ] Detect CD: [ O ] Load installer modules: [ O ] Clock/timezone setup: [ O ] User/password setup:[ O ] Detect hard drives: [ O ] Partition hard drives: [ O ] Install base system:[ O ] Install tasks: [ O ] Install boot loader:[ O ] Overall install:[ O ] Comments/Problems: Description of the install, in prose, and any thoughts, comments and ideas you had during the initial install. -- Please make sure that the hardware-summary log file, and any other installation logs that you think would be useful are attached to this report. Please compress large files using gzip. Once you have filled out this report, mail it to sub...@bugs.debian.org. == Installer lsb-release: == DISTRIB_ID=Debian DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION=Debian GNU/Linux installer DISTRIB_RELEASE=8 (jessie) - installer build 20150422 X_INSTALLATION_MEDIUM=cdrom == Installer hardware-summary: == uname -a: Linux debian-test 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt9-2 (2015-04-13) x86_64 GNU/Linux lspci -knn: 00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation 440FX - 82441FX PMC [Natoma] [8086:1237] (rev 02) lspci -knn: Subsystem: Red Hat, Inc Device [1af4:1100] lspci -knn: 00:01.0 ISA bridge [0601]: Intel Corporation 82371SB PIIX3 ISA [Natoma/Triton II] [8086:7000] lspci -knn: Subsystem: Red Hat, Inc Device [1af4:1100] lspci -knn: 00:01.1 IDE interface [0101]: Intel Corporation 82371SB PIIX3 IDE [Natoma/Triton II] [8086:7010] lspci -knn: Subsystem: Red Hat, Inc Device [1af4:1100] lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: ata_piix lspci -knn: 00:01.3 Bridge [0680]: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI [8086:7113] (rev 03) lspci -knn: Subsystem: Red Hat, Inc Device [1af4:1100] lspci -knn: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Red Hat, Inc. QXL paravirtual graphic card [1b36:0100] (rev 04) lspci -knn: Subsystem: Red Hat, Inc Device [1af4:1100] lspci -knn: 00:03.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8100/8101L/8139 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter [10ec:8139] (rev 20) lspci -knn: Subsystem: Red Hat, Inc Device [1af4:1100] lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: 8139cp lspci -knn: 00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: Intel Corporation 82801AA AC'97 Audio Controller [8086:2415] (rev 01) lspci -knn: Subsystem: Red Hat, Inc Device [1af4:1100] lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: snd_intel8x0 lspci -knn: 00:05.0 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 [8086:2934] (rev 03) lspci -knn: Subsystem: Red Hat, Inc Device [1af4:1100] lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd lspci -knn: 00:05.1 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 [8086:2935] (rev 03) lspci -knn: Subsystem: Red Hat, Inc Device [1af4:1100] lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd lspci -knn: 00:05.2 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 [8086:2936] (rev 03) lspci -knn: Subsystem: Red Hat, Inc Device [1af4:1100] lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd lspci -knn: 00:05.7 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #1 [8086:293a] (rev 03) lspci -knn: Subsystem: Red Hat, Inc Device [1af4:1100] lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: ehci-pci lspci -knn: 00:06.0 Communication controller [0780]: Red Hat, Inc Virtio console [1af4:1003] lspci -knn: Subsystem: Red Hat, Inc Device [1af4:0003] lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: virtio-pci lspci -knn: 00:07.0 Unclassified device [00ff]: Red Hat, Inc Virtio memory balloon [1af4:1002] lspci -knn: Subsystem: Red Hat, Inc Device [1af4:0005] lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: virtio-pci usb-list: usb-list: Bus 01 Device 01: