Re: Bug#794468: general: no watchdog support in installer kernel

2015-08-10 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2015-08-09 at 13:39 +, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
 Ben Hutchings dixit:
 
 Which watchdog device is this, that is enabled by the BIOS?  Normally I
 expect them to be enabled only by the kernel driver.
 
 It’s a 19″ server from Supermicro; Dominik would’ve to provide details.
 
 install time since the watchdog devices are not enabled by the system
 firmware.
 
 Oh well… apparently, the firmware setup screens don’t signal the
 watchdog either, so you can’t use that one for five minutes while
 the watchdog is enabled. This all points to buggy firmware. Again,
 details would have to come from Nik.

Then I think this should be fixed in the firmware.

Ben.

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Re: Bug#794468: general: no watchdog support in installer kernel

2015-08-09 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Ben Hutchings dixit:

Which watchdog device is this, that is enabled by the BIOS?  Normally I
expect them to be enabled only by the kernel driver.

It’s a 19″ server from Supermicro; Dominik would’ve to provide details.

install time since the watchdog devices are not enabled by the system
firmware.

Oh well… apparently, the firmware setup screens don’t signal the
watchdog either, so you can’t use that one for five minutes while
the watchdog is enabled. This all points to buggy firmware. Again,
details would have to come from Nik.

bye,
//mirabilos
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Re: Bug#794468: general: no watchdog support in installer kernel

2015-08-03 Thread Ben Hutchings
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On Mon, 2015-08-03 at 14:17 +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
 Control: reassign -1 src:debian-installer
 
 Hi,
 
 Dominik George n...@naturalnet.de (2015-08-03):
  The Debian installer images for jessie apparently do not have watchdog
  support enabled in the kernel, so they do not send heartbeats to the
  BIOS.
  
  This results in the installer system aborting and the machine resetting
  after five minutes, or whatever the BIOS sees as watchdog timeout.
  
  Disabling watchdog support during installation is obviously a simple
  workaround, but it could still be enabled as to my knowledge, it does
  not make the kernel significantly better.

Which watchdog device is this, that is enabled by the BIOS?  Normally I
expect them to be enabled only by the kernel driver.

 Reassigning to debian-installer, which is likely to be a way better
 place to start than general.
 
 It might just be a matter of setting the right option (HEARTBEAT, as a
 wild guess) on the kernel side though, so I'm copying the kernel
 maintainers. They're welcome to steal the bug from src:debian-installer
 if they feel it's appropriate.

The HEARTBEAT option is for an LED indicating CPU load.  Nothing to do
with watchdogs.

 Looking at svn or at installed kernels, I don't see this option set
 anywhere but sh4 and m68k though, so I'm not sure the installed system
 would be different than the installer one…

We enable many watchdog drivers, but generally they aren't needed at
install time since the watchdog devices are not enabled by the system
firmware.

Ben.

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Re: Bug#794468: general: no watchdog support in installer kernel

2015-08-03 Thread Cyril Brulebois
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Hi,

Dominik George n...@naturalnet.de (2015-08-03):
 The Debian installer images for jessie apparently do not have watchdog
 support enabled in the kernel, so they do not send heartbeats to the
 BIOS.
 
 This results in the installer system aborting and the machine resetting
 after five minutes, or whatever the BIOS sees as watchdog timeout.
 
 Disabling watchdog support during installation is obviously a simple
 workaround, but it could still be enabled as to my knowledge, it does
 not make the kernel significantly better.

Reassigning to debian-installer, which is likely to be a way better
place to start than general.

It might just be a matter of setting the right option (HEARTBEAT, as a
wild guess) on the kernel side though, so I'm copying the kernel
maintainers. They're welcome to steal the bug from src:debian-installer
if they feel it's appropriate.

Looking at svn or at installed kernels, I don't see this option set
anywhere but sh4 and m68k though, so I'm not sure the installed system
would be different than the installer one…

Mraw,
KiBi.


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