Bug#993668: CUPS is missing after a default GNOME Desktop Install
Of course! Updated the Reddit post. Thank you so much for your swift help here Brian and Holder :) On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 8:14 PM Brian Potkin wrote: > On Sat 04 Sep 2021 at 16:16:50 +0200, Nader Nooryani wrote: > > > Package: task-gnome-desktop > > Version: 3.68 > > > > As of Debian 11, Print Server is no longer included as an option in the > > Debian installer if you use the defaults: Debian desktop environment, > GNOME > > and standard system utilities. Ref: > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=950553 > > > > This leaves the user without CUPS after a default install. This should > > perhaps be included in task-gnome-desktop > > > > Suggestion: It may be wise to include CUPS in task-gnome-desktop or > > somewhere else, since there are no instructions informing the user how > they > > can enable support for printing. > > > > I am using Linux debian 5.10.0-8-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.46-4 > (2021-08-03) > > x86_64 GNU/Linux > > From a previous mail to -boot: > > > I have written a bit more about this on Reddit as well. > > https://www.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/pgl6c9/debian_11_and_printing/ > > It would be nice if the reddit thread could be updated to record the > responsive and timely intervention from the d-i maintainers. > > Regards, > > Brian. > > >
Bug#993668: CUPS is missing after a default GNOME Desktop Install
On Sat 04 Sep 2021 at 16:16:50 +0200, Nader Nooryani wrote: > Package: task-gnome-desktop > Version: 3.68 > > As of Debian 11, Print Server is no longer included as an option in the > Debian installer if you use the defaults: Debian desktop environment, GNOME > and standard system utilities. Ref: > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=950553 > > This leaves the user without CUPS after a default install. This should > perhaps be included in task-gnome-desktop > > Suggestion: It may be wise to include CUPS in task-gnome-desktop or > somewhere else, since there are no instructions informing the user how they > can enable support for printing. > > I am using Linux debian 5.10.0-8-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.46-4 (2021-08-03) > x86_64 GNU/Linux >From a previous mail to -boot: > I have written a bit more about this on Reddit as well. > https://www.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/pgl6c9/debian_11_and_printing/ It would be nice if the reddit thread could be updated to record the responsive and timely intervention from the d-i maintainers. Regards, Brian.
Bug#993668: CUPS is missing after a default GNOME Desktop Install
Control: tags -1 + pending Holger Wansing wrote (Tue, 7 Sep 2021 01:41:13 +0200): > > So we will need to add cups to all the *-desktop tasks probably, to > > make this work again. > > (Rationale: the print server task has been removed from tasksel under the > > assumption, that cups is installed with all desktop environments anyway. > > However, this is not true as it seems, at least not now.) > > The attached diff should do it. Pushed. Tagging this bug as pending Holger -- Holger Wansing PGP-Fingerprint: 496A C6E8 1442 4B34 8508 3529 59F1 87CA 156E B076
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Processing control commands: > tags -1 + pending Bug #993668 [task-gnome-desktop] Install CUPS for all *-desktop tasks, now that task-print-service is no longer existing Added tag(s) pending. -- 993668: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=993668 Debian Bug Tracking System Contact ow...@bugs.debian.org with problems
Processed: Re: Bug#993668: CUPS is missing after a default GNOME Desktop Install
Processing control commands: > retitle -1 Install CUPS for all *-desktop tasks, now that task-print-service > is no longer existing Bug #993668 [task-gnome-desktop] CUPS is missing after a default GNOME Desktop Install Changed Bug title to 'Install CUPS for all *-desktop tasks, now that task-print-service is no longer existing' from 'CUPS is missing after a default GNOME Desktop Install'. > tags -1 + patch Bug #993668 [task-gnome-desktop] Install CUPS for all *-desktop tasks, now that task-print-service is no longer existing Added tag(s) patch. -- 993668: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=993668 Debian Bug Tracking System Contact ow...@bugs.debian.org with problems
Bug#993668: CUPS is missing after a default GNOME Desktop Install
Control: retitle -1 Install CUPS for all *-desktop tasks, now that
task-print-service is no longer existing
Control: tags -1 + patch
Holger Wansing wrote (Sun, 5 Sep 2021 21:48:35 +0200):
> Hmm, apparently you are right.
> (I was under the impression, that the libcups2 package pulls all the needed
> cups packages, but I was wrong here.)
>
> So we will need to add cups to all the *-desktop tasks probably, to
> make this work again.
> (Rationale: the print server task has been removed from tasksel under the
> assumption, that cups is installed with all desktop environments anyway.
> However, this is not true as it seems, at least not now.)
The attached diff should do it.
Holger
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Holger Wansing
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diff --git a/debian/control b/debian/control
index 9cff6f6d..1f469e86 100644
--- a/debian/control
+++ b/debian/control
@@ -31,80 +31,82 @@ Recommends: laptop-detect, tasksel
Conflicts: tasksel (<< 2.67)
Description: official tasks used for installation of Debian systems
This package contains data about the standard tasks available on a Debian
system.
Package: task-desktop
Architecture: all
Description: Debian desktop environment
This task package is used to install the Debian desktop.
Depends: ${misc:Depends},
xorg,
xserver-xorg-video-all,
xserver-xorg-input-all,
desktop-base,
Recommends:
# One of the actual desktop tasks is needed to get a full desktop environment.
# The order here is significant when installing this task manually;
# when tasksel installs this task it instead selects one of these based
# on the tasksel/desktop debconf setting.
task-gnome-desktop | task-xfce-desktop | task-kde-desktop | task-lxde-desktop | task-gnome-flashback-desktop | task-cinnamon-desktop | task-mate-desktop | task-lxqt-desktop,
# For use by third-party apps.
xdg-utils,
# Font with wide unicode coverage, prevents âUnicode tofuâ
fonts-symbola,
# mdns/zeroconf stuff
avahi-daemon,
libnss-mdns,
# desktop machines might not be up 24/7
anacron,
# Make sure that CDs etc can be ejected. May not be installed by d-i.
eject,
# wireless networking tools (they're more and more used on desktops too)
iw,
# sound
alsa-utils,
# For use by users, to elevate privileges
sudo,
# firefox is the most popular web browser at the moment,
# although both gnome and kde offer their own too
firefox | firefox-esr,
+# print system
+ cups,
Package: task-gnome-desktop
Architecture: all
Description: GNOME
This task package is used to install the Debian desktop, featuring
the GNOME desktop environment, and with other packages that Debian users
expect to have available on the desktop.
Depends: ${misc:Depends},
task-desktop,
# only depend on a very minimal gnome desktop, to ensure it fits on CD1
gnome-core,
Recommends:
# The full gnome desktop environment should be included if possible
# even if the larger gnome metapackage doesn't fit.
gnome,
# Package management
synaptic,
# GNOME support in LibreOffice
libreoffice-gnome,
# libreoffice is the best word processor / office suite at the moment
libreoffice-writer,
libreoffice-calc,
libreoffice-impress,
# make help menu work
libreoffice-help-en-us,
# make thesaurus work
mythes-en-us,
# make spellchecker work
hunspell-en-us,
# make hyphenation work
hyphen-en-us,
# we need a working network setup at least
network-manager-gnome,
Package: task-gnome-flashback-desktop
Architecture: all
Description: GNOME Flashback
This task package is used to install the Debian desktop, featuring
the GNOME Flashback desktop environment, and with other packages that
Debian users expect to have available on the desktop.
Bug#993668: CUPS is missing after a default GNOME Desktop Install
Hi, Brian Potkin wrote (Sun, 5 Sep 2021 11:14:43 +0100): > I have a recent bullseye installation that has only the base system. > Therefore, I can be confident that 'apt install task-x-desktop > will show all the packages to be installed. Only kde and cinnamon > install the cups package. > > libcups2 has shared libraries. For a working printing system it is > essential to have the scheduler, cupsd, available, This is in the > cups-daemon package and would be installed when cups is pulled in. Hmm, apparently you are right. (I was under the impression, that the libcups2 package pulls all the needed cups packages, but I was wrong here.) So we will need to add cups to all the *-desktop tasks probably, to make this work again. (Rationale: the print server task has been removed from tasksel under the assumption, that cups is installed with all desktop environments anyway. However, this is not true as it seems, at least not now.) Holger -- Holger Wansing PGP-Fingerprint: 496A C6E8 1442 4B34 8508 3529 59F1 87CA 156E B076
Bug#993668: CUPS is missing after a default GNOME Desktop Install
On Sat 04 Sep 2021 at 21:09:56 +0200, Holger Wansing wrote: > Hi, > > Nader Nooryani wrote (Sat, 4 Sep 2021 16:16:50 > +0200): > > As of Debian 11, Print Server is no longer included as an option in the > > Debian installer if you use the defaults: Debian desktop environment, GNOME > > and standard system utilities. Ref: > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=950553 > > > > This leaves the user without CUPS after a default install. This should > > perhaps be included in task-gnome-desktop > > I have tested this, and CUPS got installed here with GNOME desktop (default > install). > > The dependency chain turns out to be: > task-gnome-desktop -> gnome-core -> system-config-printer-common -> > cups-pk-helper -> libcups2 > > (BTW: CUPS also gets installed with the other desktops via > gnome-core -> system-config-printer-common -> cups-pk-helper -> libcups2) > > So, I cannot reproduce this. > > > Do you have the installation logs available? I have a recent bullseye installation that has only the base system. Therefore, I can be confident that 'apt install task-x-desktop will show all the packages to be installed. Only kde and cinnamon install the cups package. libcups2 has shared libraries. For a working printing system it is essential to have the scheduler, cupsd, available, This is in the cups-daemon package and would be installed when cups is pulled in. Regards, Brian.
Bug#993668: CUPS is missing after a default GNOME Desktop Install
On Sun 05 Sep 2021 at 01:48:06 +0200, Nader Nooryani wrote: > Sorry, I should have mentioned that I have the packages you mention as well > as ipp-usb. > Will Debian detect and add both driverless-enabled printers and ones that > require drivers? Yes - if the scheduler is present. Printing, whether driverless or not, requires cupsd. > When I check Settings -> Printers in GNOME I am presented with this "Sorry! > The system printing service doesn't seem to be available." The scheduler is not present. 'apt install cups'. Regards, Brian.
Bug#993668: CUPS is missing after a default GNOME Desktop Install
Sorry, I should have mentioned that I have the packages you mention as well as ipp-usb. Will Debian detect and add both driverless-enabled printers and ones that require drivers? When I check Settings -> Printers in GNOME I am presented with this "Sorry! The system printing service doesn't seem to be available." I don't have a printer available to test, but I was under the impression that libcups2 wasn't the only library required for printing. On Sat, Sep 4, 2021 at 9:43 PM Holger Wansing wrote: > Hi, > > Holger Wansing wrote (Sat, 4 Sep 2021 21:09:56 > +0200): > > (BTW: CUPS also gets installed with the other desktops via > > gnome-core -> system-config-printer-common -> cups-pk-helper -> libcups2) > > Hrr, copy-and-paste error here. > Should have been: > > (BTW: CUPS also gets installed with the other desktops via > task-xxyy-desktop -> system-config-printer -> libcups2 ) > > > > And: > KDE's dependency chain: > task-kde-desktop -> print-manager -> libcups2 > > > > -- > Holger Wansing > PGP-Fingerprint: 496A C6E8 1442 4B34 8508 3529 59F1 87CA 156E B076 >
Bug#993668: CUPS is missing after a default GNOME Desktop Install
Hi, Holger Wansing wrote (Sat, 4 Sep 2021 21:09:56 +0200): > (BTW: CUPS also gets installed with the other desktops via > gnome-core -> system-config-printer-common -> cups-pk-helper -> libcups2) Hrr, copy-and-paste error here. Should have been: (BTW: CUPS also gets installed with the other desktops via task-xxyy-desktop -> system-config-printer -> libcups2 ) And: KDE's dependency chain: task-kde-desktop -> print-manager -> libcups2 -- Holger Wansing PGP-Fingerprint: 496A C6E8 1442 4B34 8508 3529 59F1 87CA 156E B076
Bug#993668: CUPS is missing after a default GNOME Desktop Install
Hi, Nader Nooryani wrote (Sat, 4 Sep 2021 16:16:50 +0200): > As of Debian 11, Print Server is no longer included as an option in the > Debian installer if you use the defaults: Debian desktop environment, GNOME > and standard system utilities. Ref: > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=950553 > > This leaves the user without CUPS after a default install. This should > perhaps be included in task-gnome-desktop I have tested this, and CUPS got installed here with GNOME desktop (default install). The dependency chain turns out to be: task-gnome-desktop -> gnome-core -> system-config-printer-common -> cups-pk-helper -> libcups2 (BTW: CUPS also gets installed with the other desktops via gnome-core -> system-config-printer-common -> cups-pk-helper -> libcups2) So, I cannot reproduce this. Do you have the installation logs available? Holger -- Holger Wansing PGP-Fingerprint: 496A C6E8 1442 4B34 8508 3529 59F1 87CA 156E B076
Bug#993668: CUPS is missing after a default GNOME Desktop Install
Package: task-gnome-desktop Version: 3.68 As of Debian 11, Print Server is no longer included as an option in the Debian installer if you use the defaults: Debian desktop environment, GNOME and standard system utilities. Ref: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=950553 This leaves the user without CUPS after a default install. This should perhaps be included in task-gnome-desktop Suggestion: It may be wise to include CUPS in task-gnome-desktop or somewhere else, since there are no instructions informing the user how they can enable support for printing. I am using Linux debian 5.10.0-8-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.46-4 (2021-08-03) x86_64 GNU/Linux
