Re: Captive laptop

2014-03-05 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 08:14:48AM -0800, Schlacta, Christ wrote:
 On Feb 28, 2014 7:59 AM, Lennart Sorensen lsore...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca
 wrote:
 
  On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 07:41:39AM -0700, R Edwards wrote:
   Hello,
   I have a persistent problem and I was hoping that the Debian install
 discs would solve it.  I have a new laptop with Windows 8 on it (was
 purchased for the hardware) and Windows is holding it prisoner.  I am
 unable to install any other Operating system on it whatsoever including
 Debian 7.4 that I downloaded from this site.  It will not allow the 'test'
 with no files installed or the full installation. I am not exactly a
 computer newbie but have only 'new' level of linux background.  I have
 tried six different OS packages from two or three different devices for
 installs and all have failed.  Windows 8 will not let any install.  Any
 chance you have an ISO that will produce a dvd disc that can be bootable
 from a bare harddrive.  The 7.4 version I downloaded gets an 'invalid
 media' message and I have tried more than one copy/download/version with
 the same results.  In the attempt to run from dvd without installing files,
 get a 'try compatibility settings' message that always fails.  I am
 apparently not the only one with this problem.  Please help.  I NEED my
 computer without the Windows garbage taking control of it.  I am even
 willing to pay for a 'guaranteed' installation disc but I try it before I
 pay as I feel Windows will defeat all comers at this point.  Looking
 forward to being proved wrong!  When I bought the laptop, I never dreamed
 that it would take months to attempt to get Windows off of it and still be
 failing.  I feel like billing Microsoft for taking my laptop prisoner but
 that would get me as far as this installation is gettingnowhere.
 
  If you download the installer (say DVD-1 iso or netinstall iso) and then
  burn it as an image to the DVD:
 
 
 http://windows.microsoft.com/en-ca/windows7/burn-a-cd-or-dvd-from-an-iso-file
 
  So windows can do that apparently.
 
  It should then be bootable, but of course you have to tell the
  BIOS/EFI/whatever you have, to boot from the DVD drive.
 
 You may also have to disable secure boot.

(1) Disabling secure boot is apparently something you can do from 
within Windows.

(2) Does the laptop have and an intel processor?  Or an ARM processor?  
If it's an ARM processor you'd have to use the appropriate ARM version 
of Linux.  But you're probably still be out of luck -- some time ago 
Microsoft announced that Windows 8 on an ARM processor will be totally 
locked down.  As far as I know that hasn't been cracked yet.

-- hendrik


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Captive laptop

2014-02-28 Thread R Edwards
Hello,
I have a persistent problem and I was hoping that the Debian install discs 
would solve it.  I have a new laptop with Windows 8 on it (was purchased for 
the hardware) and Windows is holding it prisoner.  I am unable to install any 
other Operating system on it whatsoever including Debian 7.4 that I downloaded 
from this site.  It will not allow the 'test' with no files installed or the 
full installation. I am not exactly a computer newbie but have only 'new' level 
of linux background.  I have tried six different OS packages from two or three 
different devices for installs and all have failed.  Windows 8 will not let any 
install.  Any chance you have an ISO that will produce a dvd disc that can be 
bootable from a bare harddrive.  The 7.4 version I downloaded gets an 'invalid 
media' message and I have tried more than one copy/download/version with the 
same results.  In the attempt to run from dvd without installing files, get a 
'try compatibility settings' message that always fails.  I am apparently not 
the only one with this problem.  Please help.  I NEED my computer without the 
Windows garbage taking control of it.  I am even willing to pay for a 
'guaranteed' installation disc but I try it before I pay as I feel Windows will 
defeat all comers at this point.  Looking forward to being proved wrong!  When 
I bought the laptop, I never dreamed that it would take months to attempt to 
get Windows off of it and still be failing.  I feel like billing Microsoft for 
taking my laptop prisoner but that would get me as far as this installation is 
gettingnowhere.

R. Edwards
Desperate


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Re: Captive laptop

2014-02-28 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 07:41:39AM -0700, R Edwards wrote:
 Hello,
 I have a persistent problem and I was hoping that the Debian install discs 
 would solve it.  I have a new laptop with Windows 8 on it (was purchased for 
 the hardware) and Windows is holding it prisoner.  I am unable to install any 
 other Operating system on it whatsoever including Debian 7.4 that I 
 downloaded from this site.  It will not allow the 'test' with no files 
 installed or the full installation. I am not exactly a computer newbie but 
 have only 'new' level of linux background.  I have tried six different OS 
 packages from two or three different devices for installs and all have 
 failed.  Windows 8 will not let any install.  Any chance you have an ISO that 
 will produce a dvd disc that can be bootable from a bare harddrive.  The 7.4 
 version I downloaded gets an 'invalid media' message and I have tried more 
 than one copy/download/version with the same results.  In the attempt to run 
 from dvd without installing files, get a 'try compatibility settings' message 
 that always fails.  I am apparently not the only one with this problem.  
 Please help.  I NEED my computer without the Windows garbage taking control 
 of it.  I am even willing to pay for a 'guaranteed' installation disc but I 
 try it before I pay as I feel Windows will defeat all comers at this point.  
 Looking forward to being proved wrong!  When I bought the laptop, I never 
 dreamed that it would take months to attempt to get Windows off of it and 
 still be failing.  I feel like billing Microsoft for taking my laptop 
 prisoner but that would get me as far as this installation is 
 gettingnowhere.

If you download the installer (say DVD-1 iso or netinstall iso) and then
burn it as an image to the DVD:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-ca/windows7/burn-a-cd-or-dvd-from-an-iso-file

So windows can do that apparently.

It should then be bootable, but of course you have to tell the
BIOS/EFI/whatever you have, to boot from the DVD drive.

-- 
Len Sorensen


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Re: Captive laptop

2014-02-28 Thread Schlacta, Christ
On Feb 28, 2014 7:59 AM, Lennart Sorensen lsore...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca
wrote:

 On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 07:41:39AM -0700, R Edwards wrote:
  Hello,
  I have a persistent problem and I was hoping that the Debian install
discs would solve it.  I have a new laptop with Windows 8 on it (was
purchased for the hardware) and Windows is holding it prisoner.  I am
unable to install any other Operating system on it whatsoever including
Debian 7.4 that I downloaded from this site.  It will not allow the 'test'
with no files installed or the full installation. I am not exactly a
computer newbie but have only 'new' level of linux background.  I have
tried six different OS packages from two or three different devices for
installs and all have failed.  Windows 8 will not let any install.  Any
chance you have an ISO that will produce a dvd disc that can be bootable
from a bare harddrive.  The 7.4 version I downloaded gets an 'invalid
media' message and I have tried more than one copy/download/version with
the same results.  In the attempt to run from dvd without installing files,
get a 'try compatibility settings' message that always fails.  I am
apparently not the only one with this problem.  Please help.  I NEED my
computer without the Windows garbage taking control of it.  I am even
willing to pay for a 'guaranteed' installation disc but I try it before I
pay as I feel Windows will defeat all comers at this point.  Looking
forward to being proved wrong!  When I bought the laptop, I never dreamed
that it would take months to attempt to get Windows off of it and still be
failing.  I feel like billing Microsoft for taking my laptop prisoner but
that would get me as far as this installation is gettingnowhere.

 If you download the installer (say DVD-1 iso or netinstall iso) and then
 burn it as an image to the DVD:


http://windows.microsoft.com/en-ca/windows7/burn-a-cd-or-dvd-from-an-iso-file

 So windows can do that apparently.

 It should then be bootable, but of course you have to tell the
 BIOS/EFI/whatever you have, to boot from the DVD drive.

You may also have to disable secure boot.


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