Bug#132541: marked as done (Files in the archive with no extension cause problems)

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Subject: Files in the archive with no extension cause problems
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Package: boot-floppies
Version: N/A; reported 2002-02-05
Severity: normal


This recently sent to debian-boot.  We should brobably fix this somehow.


From: "James A. Treacy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Files in the archive with no extension cause problems
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

There are files which boot floppies controls that have no file
extension. This causes problems because apache assumes that they have
mime type text/plain and newbies don't can't figure out how to download
the file. A good example is dists/stable/main/disks-i386/current/linux .
Try wget -S http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/disks-i386/current/linux

Here are some alternatives:
 - add .htaccess files and add lines like:
   
 ForceType application/octet-stream
   
   The problem with this is that not all mirrors are running apache.
   Additionally, if a site has set 'AllowOverride None', apache will give
   an error message when users try to download the file.
 - Have sites add 'DefaultType application/octet-stream' to either the
   apache config file or to a .htaccess file. Using a .htaccess file has
   the same problem as the first example. Besides the problem of getting
   hundreds of mirrors to modify their apache config, there is the
   additional problem that there are probably files in the archive that
   are plain text that would then be consider as binaries.
 - rename all binaries with no file extension

What I suggest is that starting with the next release any files that
aren't plain text be given an extension that will convince apache that
they are binaries. The biggest hassle here will be changing all the
links to the files.

If you don't do anything about this, the webmasters will be forced to
send all mail from lusers complaining about this problem to this list. :)

Not subscribed to this list so blah blah blah mail to me blah blah blah.

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This was fixed in 3.0.21 (for linux.bin anyways). We'll accept 
luser mail on the others.

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Re: Files in the archive with no extension cause problems

[James A. Treacy]

On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 09:37:37PM -0700, Chris Tillman wrote:
> 
> This is not really as bad as it sounds. I looked at what would need to
> change for the linux file. What would be a good extension, linux.bin?

.bin maps to application/octet-stream so this should be fine.

I looked through dists/unstable/main/disks-i386/ for other files that
cause problems. Mime type returned can be checked by using
wget -S -O /dev/null 
http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/disks-i386/current/linux

They are:
dists/testing/main/disks-i386/current/linux
dists/testing/main/disks-i386/current/{compact,idepci,reiserfs,udma100-ext3}/linux
dists/testing/main/disks-i386/current/{compact,idepci,reiserfs,udma100-ext3}/tftpboot.img

Any reason not to rename tftboot.img to tftboot.bin?

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Re: Files in the archive with no extension cause problems

[Chris Tillman]

On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 07:42:08PM -0500, James A. Treacy wrote:
> There are files which boot floppies controls that have no file
> extension. This causes problems because apache assumes that they have
> mime type text/plain and newbies don't can't figure out how to download
> the file. A good example is dists/stable/main/disks-i386/current/linux .
> Try wget -S http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/disks-i386/current/linux
> 
> Here are some alternatives:
>  - add .htaccess files and add lines like:
>
>  ForceType application/octet-stream
>
>The problem with this is that not all mirrors are running apache.
>Additionally, if a site has set 'AllowOverride None', apache will give
>an error message when users try to download the file.
>  - Have sites add 'DefaultType application/octet-stream' to either the
>apache config file or to a .htaccess file. Using a .htaccess file has
>the same problem as the first example. Besides the problem of getting
>hundreds of mirrors to modify their apache config, there is the
>additional problem that there are probably files in the archive that
>are plain text that would then be consider as binaries.
>  - rename all binaries with no file extension
> 
> What I suggest is that starting with the next release any files that
> aren't plain text be given an extension that will convince apache that
> they are binaries. The biggest hassle here will be changing all the
> links to the files.
> 
> If you don't do anything about this, the webmasters will be forced to
> send all mail from lusers complaining about this problem to this list. :)

This is not really as bad as it sounds. I looked at what would need to
change for the linux file. What would be a good extension, linux.bin?
It's a dozen places in rescue.sh and release.sh each, rdev.sh and
bootconfig.c for a couple lines each, and syslinux.cfg and other
bootloader files. The worst part is the documentation and messages,
which I'd be willing to take on -- and those would not cause many bugs.

In the ppc area, bootargs is a text document, so no problem. Same with
any kernel-configs.

The apus bootstrap folder has several binaries also, so that would be
a little additional work. But the dozen or so people it would impact
would probably be forgiving.


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Bug#132541: Files in the archive with no extension cause problems

[David Whedon]

Package: boot-floppies
Version: N/A; reported 2002-02-05
Severity: normal


This recently sent to debian-boot.  We should brobably fix this somehow.


From: "James A. Treacy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Files in the archive with no extension cause problems
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

There are files which boot floppies controls that have no file
extension. This causes problems because apache assumes that they have
mime type text/plain and newbies don't can't figure out how to download
the file. A good example is dists/stable/main/disks-i386/current/linux .
Try wget -S http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/disks-i386/current/linux

Here are some alternatives:
 - add .htaccess files and add lines like:
   
 ForceType application/octet-stream
   
   The problem with this is that not all mirrors are running apache.
   Additionally, if a site has set 'AllowOverride None', apache will give
   an error message when users try to download the file.
 - Have sites add 'DefaultType application/octet-stream' to either the
   apache config file or to a .htaccess file. Using a .htaccess file has
   the same problem as the first example. Besides the problem of getting
   hundreds of mirrors to modify their apache config, there is the
   additional problem that there are probably files in the archive that
   are plain text that would then be consider as binaries.
 - rename all binaries with no file extension

What I suggest is that starting with the next release any files that
aren't plain text be given an extension that will convince apache that
they are binaries. The biggest hassle here will be changing all the
links to the files.

If you don't do anything about this, the webmasters will be forced to
send all mail from lusers complaining about this problem to this list. :)

Not subscribed to this list so blah blah blah mail to me blah blah blah.

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Files in the archive with no extension cause problems

[James A. Treacy]

There are files which boot floppies controls that have no file
extension. This causes problems because apache assumes that they have
mime type text/plain and newbies don't can't figure out how to download
the file. A good example is dists/stable/main/disks-i386/current/linux .
Try wget -S http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/disks-i386/current/linux

Here are some alternatives:
 - add .htaccess files and add lines like:
   
 ForceType application/octet-stream
   
   The problem with this is that not all mirrors are running apache.
   Additionally, if a site has set 'AllowOverride None', apache will give
   an error message when users try to download the file.
 - Have sites add 'DefaultType application/octet-stream' to either the
   apache config file or to a .htaccess file. Using a .htaccess file has
   the same problem as the first example. Besides the problem of getting
   hundreds of mirrors to modify their apache config, there is the
   additional problem that there are probably files in the archive that
   are plain text that would then be consider as binaries.
 - rename all binaries with no file extension

What I suggest is that starting with the next release any files that
aren't plain text be given an extension that will convince apache that
they are binaries. The biggest hassle here will be changing all the
links to the files.

If you don't do anything about this, the webmasters will be forced to
send all mail from lusers complaining about this problem to this list. :)

Not subscribed to this list so blah blah blah mail to me blah blah blah.

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