Re: help with install on Dell SC420 / SATA / Sarge / netinst / at a_piix

2004-11-28 Thread Colleen Hatfield
On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 19:45:45 -0600, Colleen Hatfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I just installed an SC420 using the RC2 netinstall CD with "expert26"
> boot parameter yesterday.  Both of these bugs seem to be fixed: I can
> boot without giving acpi=off, and i get no hang after the RTC
> messages.

I just did another install on the same machine to reproduce a
different bug, and found that what I had said here was incorrect.  The
problem isn't fixed in rc2, but in the most recent version of the
2.6.8 kernel that I had gotten via apt from the unstable tree.  So it
is still best to give "acpi=off" to the installer (though technically
you don't have to if you're willing to ctrl+c a few times).  After
upgrading to the most recent kernel image in unstable
(kernel-image-2.6.8-1-386_2.6.8-10_i386.deb) you will not need that as
a boot option and can remove it from /boot/grub/menu.lst.

Sorry for any confusion :-(

- Colleen


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Re: help with install on Dell SC420 / SATA / Sarge / netinst / at a_piix

2004-11-27 Thread Colleen Hatfield
On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 22:53:52 +0100, Geert Stappers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > > Last wednesday I did spend with installing on a Dell SC420.
> > > The great trick was using a 2.6 kernel. They are available for
> > > debian-installer
> > > (I used the netboot images ( no rebuild needed )) and do provide the
> > > ata_piix module.
> > >
> > > After the reboot you will encounter #277298, where control-C allows you
> > > to get a second console, so you can append acpi=off for the next boot.

I just installed an SC420 using the RC2 netinstall CD with "expert26"
boot parameter yesterday.  Both of these bugs seem to be fixed: I can
boot without giving acpi=off, and i get no hang after the RTC
messages.

- Colleen


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Re: help with install on Dell SC420 / SATA / Sarge / netinst / at a_piix

2004-11-27 Thread Geert Stappers
> On Tue, Nov 23, 2004 at 12:53:46PM -0500, Eric Silberstein wrote:
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 12:38 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: Re: help with install on Dell SC420 / SATA / Sarge / netinst /
> ata_piix
> 
> 
> > On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 04:59:10PM -0500, Eric Silberstein wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > I am a Debian and linux newbie.  I recently purchased a Dell SC420 and
> > want
> > > to install Sarge.  The Dell SC420 has a SATA drive.  I am attempting
> > install
> > > using the 20041120 daily build netinst CD image.  The installer fails to
> > > recognize my hard drive. Through google
> > > (http://lists.progeny.com/archive/discover-workers/200410/msg8.html) I
> > > found the advice "Whilst the PATA CDROM drive was detected the main hard
> > > disk was not - I needed to manually modprobe ata_piix for d-i to run
> > through
> > > correctly."  However, I'm not sure how to do this since the ata_piix
> > module
> > > is not included on the CD image.  Through google
> > > (http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2004/10/msg00348.html) I found a
> > bug
> > > report saying "The kernel-image-2.4.26-1 package doesn't seem to contain
> > the
> > > ata_piix.o module" due to a bug in a Makefile.  Both of these bugs are
> > > reportedly fixed.  What should I do?  Can I download ata_piix.o from
> > > somewhere and use it during my install process?  Do I need to build my own
> > > netinst image, and if so, how do I do that?
> > 
> > Last wednesday I did spend with installing on a Dell SC420.
> > The great trick was using a 2.6 kernel. They are available for
> > debian-installer
> > (I used the netboot images ( no rebuild needed )) and do provide the
> > ata_piix module.
> > 
> > After the reboot you will encounter #277298, where control-C allows you
> > to get a second console, so you can append acpi=off for the next boot.
> > 
> Hi Geert,
> 
> Thanks for your reply.  I guess this is where some of the newbie questions
> come in.

No worries Mate.

I have been newbie myself and on some topic still am.
And there are no stupid questions
(some questions are however to stupid to answer ;-)

> 1) What is the netboot image, how do I use it, and where do I get it from?
> Does this method actually require that I do a network boot?  If so, do I
> somehow copy the netboot files to a second computer and point my SC420 to it
> at bootup time?

Sorry for introducing 'netboot', my message was that 2.6 images do exist.
(there were questions how to build netinst CD images, so no need to
build them yourself right now.)

> 2) How do I get the 2.6 kernel?
I hope that you found meanwhile 
http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2004/10/msg02182.html
or at least the F1 button hint in the debian-installer splash screen.

> What is the connection between
> stable/testing/unstable and the kernel?  For example, is Sarge based on 2.4
> and unstable on 2.6?
Nope.
The short answer is: "nothing to worry about"
The long answer is: "no time to explain that right here"

> 
> 3) Even if I am able to follow your instructions and install, is what I
> found below still a bug?  Should I log this bug?  If so, how?

 http://www.nl.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting

> Thanks in advance,

You are welcome.
I hope that you learn something,
at least that the reply goes below the text ;-)

> Eric

Cheers
Geert Stappers


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RE: help with install on Dell SC420 / SATA / Sarge / netinst / at a_piix

2004-11-23 Thread Eric Silberstein
Hi Geert,

Thanks for your reply.  I guess this is where some of the newbie questions
come in.

1) What is the netboot image, how do I use it, and where do I get it from?
Does this method actually require that I do a network boot?  If so, do I
somehow copy the netboot files to a second computer and point my SC420 to it
at bootup time?

2) How do I get the 2.6 kernel?  What is the connection between
stable/testing/unstable and the kernel?  For example, is Sarge based on 2.4
and unstable on 2.6?

3) Even if I am able to follow your instructions and install, is what I
found below still a bug?  Should I log this bug?  If so, how?

Thanks in advance,

Eric

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ata_piix


On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 04:59:10PM -0500, Eric Silberstein wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am a Debian and linux newbie.  I recently purchased a Dell SC420 and
want
> to install Sarge.  The Dell SC420 has a SATA drive.  I am attempting
install
> using the 20041120 daily build netinst CD image.  The installer fails to
> recognize my hard drive. Through google
> (http://lists.progeny.com/archive/discover-workers/200410/msg8.html) I
> found the advice "Whilst the PATA CDROM drive was detected the main hard
> disk was not - I needed to manually modprobe ata_piix for d-i to run
through
> correctly."  However, I'm not sure how to do this since the ata_piix
module
> is not included on the CD image.  Through google
> (http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2004/10/msg00348.html) I found a
bug
> report saying "The kernel-image-2.4.26-1 package doesn't seem to contain
the
> ata_piix.o module" due to a bug in a Makefile.  Both of these bugs are
> reportedly fixed.  What should I do?  Can I download ata_piix.o from
> somewhere and use it during my install process?  Do I need to build my own
> netinst image, and if so, how do I do that?

Last wednesday I did spend with installing on a Dell SC420.
The great trick was using a 2.6 kernel. They are available for
debian-installer
(I used the netboot images ( no rebuild needed )) and do provide the
ata_piix module.

After the reboot you will encounter #277298, where control-C allows you
to get a second console, so you can append acpi=off for the next boot.

> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Eric Silberstein
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Cheers
Geert Stappers


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