Re: s390 installation support in Debian 'sarge'
On Wed, Feb 04, 2004 at 02:29:56PM -0600, Sam Warren wrote: > Not sure if you have looked into this but I think IBM actually provides a > service where they allow open source developers access to an S/390 for > development purposes. > > http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/os/linux/lcds/ > > "Welcome to the Linux Community Development System (the 'Service'), a > Service provided by IBM. The Service provides you with access to a Linux on > S/390 environment for the purpose of providing the Open Source community > with a platform to develop, port and/or test drive your products or > applications on this platform. We anticipate the majority of users to > include entrepreneur developers/vendors that otherwise might not have the > opportunity to test/port their code to the S/390 platform. However, we > invite all interested parties that meet the established terms and conditions > to register and experience "Linux for S/390"." Yes, and I have used LCDS before, but it is not quite what is needed. This service gives you access to a virtual machine where you could, for example, compile programs, but you cannot create new virtual machines, IPL from installation media, and things of that sort, which are what is needed to properly develop and test d-i. I have received some responses from organizations who are willing to help us, though, and am coordinating those efforts now. -- - mdz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: s390 installation support in Debian 'sarge'
Not sure if you have looked into this but I think IBM actually provides a service where they allow open source developers access to an S/390 for development purposes. http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/os/linux/lcds/ "Welcome to the Linux Community Development System (the 'Service'), a Service provided by IBM. The Service provides you with access to a Linux on S/390 environment for the purpose of providing the Open Source community with a platform to develop, port and/or test drive your products or applications on this platform. We anticipate the majority of users to include entrepreneur developers/vendors that otherwise might not have the opportunity to test/port their code to the S/390 platform. However, we invite all interested parties that meet the established terms and conditions to register and experience "Linux for S/390"." Hope that may be of help! Sam -Original Message- From: Matt Zimmerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Zimmerman Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 11:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; David Boyes; Adam Thornton; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Stefan Gybas; Gerhard Tonn; Frank Kirschner; Martin Michlmayr Subject: s390 installation support in Debian 'sarge' s390 fans: As you can see from the attached debian-installer status report, s390 is one of a minority of Debian architectures which are currently not supported by debian-installer. Part of the reason for this is that access to create and reboot Linux/390 guests (as would be needed for installation testing) is hard to come by for most Debian developers. Without access to a development platform, it is unlikely that we will be able to support installation of Debian on s390 in the Debian 'sarge' release. I would like to ask that if any of you are in a position to provide Debian developers with access to such a system, and are willing to do so, please contact either the installer development mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) or myself if you would prefer private mail ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) to work out the details. Feel free to forward this message to anyone else who might be in a position to help. -- - mdz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: s390 installation support in Debian 'sarge'
OK, I've cleared it with management. There is only one slight wrinkle: I need to get anyone who will have access to our H70 for doing installer development to sign an NDA. Before you freak out, let me explain that a little further: it has nothing whatsoever to do with the Debian work--we'd love the publicity from having it be known that we lent you the space to do so. We do, however, host stuff on that same VM box for other customers of ours. Now, I'm not planning to give anyone more than Class G privileges from the machine perspective (unless you need them to, say, build an NSS or something, and even then I'd rather be told what needs to happen and do it for you). Still, by doing perfectly legitimate things, you may well figure out *who* some of those other customers are and, since you're bright people, make good guesses about what they're doing. Not telling anyone about that sort of stuff is what we need the NDA for. Basically, pretend that you think you're alone on the box, when discussing what you're doing. I hope this is not an onerous requirement. Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
