Re: .config for boot-floppy-hfs.img
On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 10:42:31AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > the LinuxPPC 2000 cd is bootable on my Performa, and it shows a nice splash i am so sick of hearing about LinuxPPC. > screen with "Yaboot" on boot. And then I can choose graphically between its *NOT* yaboot. believe me i know, i am the upstream maintainer of yaboot's source code now, yaboot does NOT have a GUI, and never has. > different kernels by clicking them and boot. Do you think it needs some > proprietary software to do that? The iso of this cd can be freely downloaded on > the linuxppc site. it requires proprietary Apple CDROM drivers which require a distribution licence. the only way to get this is by using a proprietary, expensive CD burning software that only runs on MacOS, a proprietary OS. thats exactly what LinuxPPC did, and what Debian will NEVER do. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ PGP signature
Re: .config for boot-floppy-hfs.img
On 27-Sep-2001 Ethan Benson wrote: > On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 01:52:43AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> you mean I should not use arch/ppc/boot/zvmlinux for a bootdisk? That's a >> very >> interesting information since I always used this one :) and that's probably >> why >> it never worked. I suppose the right one is arch/ppc/coffboot/vmlinux.coff . >> thanks a lot for this info. > > vmlinux.coff is only for OpenFirmware booting, and only on OldWorlds. > (it fails miserably on newworlds). yes, that's ok because it is for a couple of Performa 6400 (oldworlds). > >> If you know more about making a bootable cd with that all, it will be great >> too... > > its impossible on oldworld, not without lots of kludgery and expensive > proprietary software on a proprietary OS, and requiring a licence to > distribute the result. thats why debian will never have oldworld > bootable CDs. the LinuxPPC 2000 cd is bootable on my Performa, and it shows a nice splash screen with "Yaboot" on boot. And then I can choose graphically between different kernels by clicking them and boot. Do you think it needs some proprietary software to do that? The iso of this cd can be freely downloaded on the linuxppc site. > > for newworlds its quite easy, look at debian-cd source for how. (or > list archives where i have explained it a bit). > > -- > Ethan Benson > http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .config for boot-floppy-hfs.img
On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 01:52:43AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > you mean I should not use arch/ppc/boot/zvmlinux for a bootdisk? That's a very > interesting information since I always used this one :) and that's probably why > it never worked. I suppose the right one is arch/ppc/coffboot/vmlinux.coff . > thanks a lot for this info. vmlinux.coff is only for OpenFirmware booting, and only on OldWorlds. (it fails miserably on newworlds). > If you know more about making a bootable cd with that all, it will be great > too... its impossible on oldworld, not without lots of kludgery and expensive proprietary software on a proprietary OS, and requiring a licence to distribute the result. thats why debian will never have oldworld bootable CDs. for newworlds its quite easy, look at debian-cd source for how. (or list archives where i have explained it a bit). -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ PGP signature
Re: .config for boot-floppy-hfs.img
On 26-Sep-2001 Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 02:39:44PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> no I forgot, I am going to try with it. But why the kernel which is in the >> kernel-image-2.2.19-pmac package has a size of 2.7Mo, and the kernel I >> generate from its .config has a size of 1Mo? > > That's not right. Are you using the same kernel type? The 2.7Mb one is > 'vmlinux', at the top of the build directory, not a compressed image. > ok, I see. >> And an other question, what is the difference between a vmlinux kernel and a >> vmlinux.coff kernel? > > COFF is another bootable format. It's what the floppies need. It'll > appear under arch/ppc/ after you build. you mean I should not use arch/ppc/boot/zvmlinux for a bootdisk? That's a very interesting information since I always used this one :) and that's probably why it never worked. I suppose the right one is arch/ppc/coffboot/vmlinux.coff . thanks a lot for this info. If you know more about making a bootable cd with that all, it will be great too... > > -- > Daniel Jacobowitz Carnegie Mellon University > MontaVista Software Debian GNU/Linux Developer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .config for boot-floppy-hfs.img
On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 02:39:44PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > no I forgot, I am going to try with it. But why the kernel which is in the > kernel-image-2.2.19-pmac package has a size of 2.7Mo, and the kernel I > generate from its .config has a size of 1Mo? That's not right. Are you using the same kernel type? The 2.7Mb one is 'vmlinux', at the top of the build directory, not a compressed image. > And an other question, what is the difference between a vmlinux kernel and a > vmlinux.coff kernel? COFF is another bootable format. It's what the floppies need. It'll appear under arch/ppc/ after you build. -- Daniel Jacobowitz Carnegie Mellon University MontaVista Software Debian GNU/Linux Developer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .config for boot-floppy-hfs.img
On 26-Sep-2001 Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 01:20:08AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> On 11-Sep-2001 Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: >> > On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 03:45:37PM +0200, Damien Morel wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> do some of you know where can I find the .config file used to >> >> generate the kernel on powerpc's boot-floppy-hfs.img >> >> (http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-powerpc/3.0.13-2001-0 >> >> 8-2 >> >> 5/powermac/images-1.44/boot-floppy-hfs.img >> >> to be exact). >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance. >> > >> > In the kernel-patch-2.2.19-powerpc or kernel-image-2.2.19-pmac >> > packages. >> >> I tried with this .config but it doesn't seem to give the same kernel than >> the >> bootdisk's one. They have not the same size, and I can't boot with the >> kernel >> compiled with this .config on my Performa6400. > > You did also apply the patch from kernel-patch-2.2.19-powerpc, right? no I forgot, I am going to try with it. But why the kernel which is in the kernel-image-2.2.19-pmac package has a size of 2.7Mo, and the kernel I generate from its .config has a size of 1Mo? And an other question, what is the difference between a vmlinux kernel and a vmlinux.coff kernel? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .config for boot-floppy-hfs.img
On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 01:20:08AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On 11-Sep-2001 Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 03:45:37PM +0200, Damien Morel wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> do some of you know where can I find the .config file used to > >> generate the kernel on powerpc's boot-floppy-hfs.img > >> (http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-powerpc/3.0.13-2001-08-2 > >> 5/powermac/images-1.44/boot-floppy-hfs.img > >> to be exact). > >> > >> Thanks in advance. > > > > In the kernel-patch-2.2.19-powerpc or kernel-image-2.2.19-pmac > > packages. > > I tried with this .config but it doesn't seem to give the same kernel than the > bootdisk's one. They have not the same size, and I can't boot with the kernel > compiled with this .config on my Performa6400. You did also apply the patch from kernel-patch-2.2.19-powerpc, right? -- Daniel Jacobowitz Carnegie Mellon University MontaVista Software Debian GNU/Linux Developer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .config for boot-floppy-hfs.img
On 11-Sep-2001 Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 03:45:37PM +0200, Damien Morel wrote: >> Hi, >> >> do some of you know where can I find the .config file used to >> generate the kernel on powerpc's boot-floppy-hfs.img >> (http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-powerpc/3.0.13-2001-08-2 >> 5/powermac/images-1.44/boot-floppy-hfs.img >> to be exact). >> >> Thanks in advance. > > In the kernel-patch-2.2.19-powerpc or kernel-image-2.2.19-pmac > packages. I tried with this .config but it doesn't seem to give the same kernel than the bootdisk's one. They have not the same size, and I can't boot with the kernel compiled with this .config on my Performa6400. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .config for boot-floppy-hfs.img
On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 03:45:37PM +0200, Damien Morel wrote: > Hi, > > do some of you know where can I find the .config file used to > generate the kernel on powerpc's boot-floppy-hfs.img > >(http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-powerpc/3.0.13-2001-08-25/powermac/images-1.44/boot-floppy-hfs.img > to be exact). > > Thanks in advance. In the kernel-patch-2.2.19-powerpc or kernel-image-2.2.19-pmac packages. -- Daniel Jacobowitz Carnegie Mellon University MontaVista Software Debian GNU/Linux Developer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
