Re: Alpha Boot Floppies: new version

2001-08-27 Thread Richard Hirst

On Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 03:25:05AM +0200, Falk Hueffner wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Selecting previously deselected package libc6.1.
  (Reading database ... 216 files and directories currently installed.)
  Unpacking libc6.1 (from ../libc6.1_2.2.3-8_alpha.deb) ...
  Setting up libc6.1 (2.2.3-7) ...
  Current default timezone: 'UTC'.
  Local time is now:  Tue Aug 14 20:07:43 UTC 2001.
  Universal time is now:  Tue Aug 14 20:07:43 UTC 2001.
  Run 'tzconfig' if you wish to change it.
  Package 'sysvinit' is not installed and no info is available.
  Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
  and dpkg --conents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
  
  ... and that's all she wrote, hard hang at this point (for those who
  arrived late, this is on a Bret, aka AlphaStation 500/500).
 
 Perhaps it's trying to restart init then in a bad way. I'll retrieve
 the postinst and have a look later.

I had this on ia64, hung when libc6 or sysinitv postinst tried to
get init to reload inittab.  The root cause was that I had forgotten
to include root=/dev/ram in my boot options.  It mounted the ramdisk
ok (from initrd=), but then gets confused about whether process
1 is linuxrc or init (something like that anyway).

So check you boot with root=/dev/ram.

Richard


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Re: Alpha Boot Floppies: new version

2001-08-14 Thread Doug Larrick

I have used the boot floppy images from 
ftp://134.2.15.134/boot-floppies/disks-alpha/ to attempt an install from scratch 
on a Bret (AlphaStation 500/500).  

The good news?  bootp/tftp boot works great!  In SRM, you need to select bootp 
via console variable ('set ewa0_protocol bootp' or something like that) rather 
than via a flag to the boot command ('boot -proto bootp ewa0' does not work, 
failing with Block FFF2 is not in any zone messages).

The bad news?  The installation hangs during/right after installing the libc6.1 
package.  It hangs so solid that the shell on the second virtual console will 
not respond.  I even tried floppies rather than tftp and it stops in the same 
location.  Is this a known problem?

Also, when trying to write aboot to the disk, it looks like the installer is 
trying to swriteboot to the partition where the root filesystem is (/dev/sdan) 
rather than directly to /dev/sda .

-Doug


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Re: Alpha Boot Floppies: new version

2001-08-14 Thread Falk Hueffner

Doug Larrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The good news?  bootp/tftp boot works great!  In SRM, you need to
 select bootp via console variable ('set ewa0_protocol bootp' or
 something like that) rather than via a flag to the boot command
 ('boot -proto bootp ewa0' does not work, failing with Block
 FFF2 is not in any zone messages).

That's really good news. I couldn't get bootp to work, so I couldn't
test it.  There were some suspicious hacks in the previous version...
 
 The bad news?  The installation hangs during/right after installing
 the libc6.1 package.  It hangs so solid that the shell on the second
 virtual console will not respond.  I even tried floppies rather than
 tftp and it stops in the same location.  Is this a known problem?

No.  That's really weird; I have no idea what might cause this. I had
no problems at that point.  Did you download via http, or did you
install from a mounted mirror?

 Also, when trying to write aboot to the disk, it looks like the
 installer is trying to swriteboot to the partition where the root
 filesystem is (/dev/sdan) rather than directly to /dev/sda .

I noticed this too.  If this is not just the message being wrong, this
might even destroy data... I'll check it.

Falk


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Re: Alpha Boot Floppies: new version

2001-08-14 Thread Doug Larrick

Quoting Falk Hueffner [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 That's really good news. I couldn't get bootp to work, so I couldn't
 test it.  There were some suspicious hacks in the previous version...

Bootp is a lot easier to get going using a dhcp server rather than a bootp 
server.  Much better log messages.  Or did you mean the SRM end?

  The bad news?  The installation hangs during/right after installing
  the libc6.1 package.  It hangs so solid that the shell on the second
  virtual console will not respond.  I even tried floppies rather than
  tftp and it stops in the same location.  Is this a known problem?
 
 No.  That's really weird; I have no idea what might cause this. I had
 no problems at that point.  Did you download via http, or did you
 install from a mounted mirror?

Downloaded via http.  If there's an easy way to make a local mirror of just 
the files needed for the base system I'd be willing to give that a try.

-Doug


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Re: Alpha Boot Floppies: new version

2001-08-14 Thread Falk Hueffner

Doug Larrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Quoting Falk Hueffner [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  That's really good news. I couldn't get bootp to work, so I
  couldn't test it.  There were some suspicious hacks in the
  previous version...
 
 Bootp is a lot easier to get going using a dhcp server rather than a
 bootp server.  Much better log messages.  Or did you mean the SRM
 end?

Yes, I meant the SRM end.  I couldn't get SRM tro transmit *anything*
over ethernet (checked with tcpdump), regardless of the medium type
setting.  Perhaps this is because I had a crappy ISA card at the other
end; they can communicate from Linux, though.

   The bad news?  The installation hangs during/right after
   installing the libc6.1 package.  It hangs so solid that the
   shell on the second virtual console will not respond.  I even
   tried floppies rather than tftp and it stops in the same
   location.  Is this a known problem?
  
  No.  That's really weird; I have no idea what might cause this. I
  had no problems at that point.  Did you download via http, or did
  you install from a mounted mirror?
 
 Downloaded via http.  If there's an easy way to make a local mirror
 of just the files needed for the base system I'd be willing to give
 that a try.

Anthony Towns just posted a method on debian-boot:

/usr/sbin/debootstrap --download-only --arch alpha woody woody-alpha 
http://ftp.debian.org/debian/
(cd woody-alpha  tar cf ../basedebs_3.0_alpha.tar *)
rm -rf woody-alpha

Falk


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Re: Alpha Boot Floppies: new version

2001-08-14 Thread doug

 Anthony Towns just posted a method on debian-boot [of making a
 basedebs.tgz file]

OK, I gave this a try, same result; let me type in the end of console
4 (anything really odd is probably a typo):

dpkg: warning - ignoring pre-depencency problem !
(Reading database... 77 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace dpkg 1.9.16 (using
../archives/dpkg_1.9.16_alpha.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement dpkg ...
dpkg: dpkg: dependency problems, but configuring anyway as you
request:
 dpkg depends on libc6.1 (= 2.2.3-1); however:
  Package libc6.1 is not installed.
 dpkg depends on libncurses5 (= 5.2.20010310-1); however:
  Package libncurses5 is not installed.
 dpkg depends on libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2; however:
  Package libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 is not installed.
Setting up dpkg (1.9.16) ...

Selecting previously deselected package libc6.1.
(Reading database ... 216 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking libc6.1 (from ../libc6.1_2.2.3-8_alpha.deb) ...
Setting up libc6.1 (2.2.3-7) ...
Current default timezone: 'UTC'.
Local time is now:  Tue Aug 14 20:07:43 UTC 2001.
Universal time is now:  Tue Aug 14 20:07:43 UTC 2001.
Run 'tzconfig' if you wish to change it.
Package 'sysvinit' is not installed and no info is available.
Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
and dpkg --conents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.

... and that's all she wrote, hard hang at this point (for those who
arrived late, this is on a Bret, aka AlphaStation 500/500).

-Doug

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Re: Alpha Boot Floppies: new version

2001-08-14 Thread Falk Hueffner

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Anthony Towns just posted a method on debian-boot [of making a
  basedebs.tgz file]
 
 OK, I gave this a try, same result; let me type in the end of console
 4 (anything really odd is probably a typo):
 
 dpkg: warning - ignoring pre-depencency problem !
 (Reading database... 77 files and directories currently installed.)
 Preparing to replace dpkg 1.9.16 (using
 ../archives/dpkg_1.9.16_alpha.deb) ...
 Unpacking replacement dpkg ...
 dpkg: dpkg: dependency problems, but configuring anyway as you
 request:
  dpkg depends on libc6.1 (= 2.2.3-1); however:
   Package libc6.1 is not installed.
  dpkg depends on libncurses5 (= 5.2.20010310-1); however:
   Package libncurses5 is not installed.
  dpkg depends on libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2; however:
   Package libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 is not installed.
 Setting up dpkg (1.9.16) ...
 
 Selecting previously deselected package libc6.1.
 (Reading database ... 216 files and directories currently installed.)
 Unpacking libc6.1 (from ../libc6.1_2.2.3-8_alpha.deb) ...
 Setting up libc6.1 (2.2.3-7) ...
 Current default timezone: 'UTC'.
 Local time is now:  Tue Aug 14 20:07:43 UTC 2001.
 Universal time is now:  Tue Aug 14 20:07:43 UTC 2001.
 Run 'tzconfig' if you wish to change it.
 Package 'sysvinit' is not installed and no info is available.
 Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
 and dpkg --conents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
 
 ... and that's all she wrote, hard hang at this point (for those who
 arrived late, this is on a Bret, aka AlphaStation 500/500).

Perhaps it's trying to restart init then in a bad way. I'll retrieve
the postinst and have a look later.

Falk


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Re: Alpha Boot Floppies: new version

2001-08-13 Thread Adam C Powell IV

Falk Hueffner wrote:

We could
also need a tester for nautilus, since I have no idea about the
current state.

I have a nautilus to test on, but not much time; will try to test by 
end-of-week, after 3.0.10 is built.

Zeen,
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