Re: Booting netinst from SCSI CDROM fails
Quoting Harald Dunkel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I'm despreately waiting for a new netinst image. So do I. All my efforts for building something I could test myself were unfortunately unsuccessful. I only managed to break build/Makefile for a few hours, indeed, because I stupidely commited changes I made there on my own system..:-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booting netinst from SCSI CDROM fails
Christian Perrier wrote: Quoting Harald Dunkel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I'm despreately waiting for a new netinst image. So do I. All my efforts for building something I could test myself were unfortunately unsuccessful. Its there. http://people.debian.org/~manty/testing/netinst/. Hooray. Happy holidays to everyone. Harri -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booting netinst from SCSI CDROM fails
* Harald Dunkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-12-22 18:10]: Found it. But I could not pass the DHCP entry in the main menu, even though I manually called udhcpc, and ifconfig showed me that I've I think if you configure a static IP address, the DHCP menu will stop complaining. At least that's what I did when pump failed and then I could continue. Alternatively, remove /sbin/pump before DHCP is called, and it will use the other DHCP client and just work. -- Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booting netinst from SCSI CDROM fails
Am Die, den 23.12.2003 schrieb Martin Michlmayr um 09:10: * Harald Dunkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-12-22 18:10]: Found it. But I could not pass the DHCP entry in the main menu, even though I manually called udhcpc, and ifconfig showed me that I've Manually running udhcpc does not work, because the netcfg-dhcp component of debian-installer is still marked as failed and there was no component who successfully provided configured-network. I think if you configure a static IP address, the DHCP menu will stop complaining. At least that's what I did when pump failed and then I could continue. Alternatively, remove /sbin/pump before DHCP is called, and it will use the other DHCP client and just work. This is now fixed in CVS. udhcp is now prefered to pump. Gaudenz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booting netinst from SCSI CDROM fails
Martin Michlmayr wrote: I think if you configure a static IP address, the DHCP menu will stop complaining. At least that's what I did when pump failed and then I could continue. Alternatively, remove /sbin/pump before DHCP is called, and it will use the other DHCP client and just work. I haven't tried setting a static address (I forgot to write down the DNServer address of my provider), but removing pump did the trick. Here is my list of problems by now: - after booting the CD in my SCSI drive I have to reinsert it in an USB drive, cause the aic7xxx driver has been dropped from initrd due to size constraints. Joey told me that this is work in progress. - while the aic7xxx driver is performing a reset I have to switch to console 2 to remove /sbin/pump to make dhcp work. Weired. - I get a list of distros to select from, (stable, testing, unstable), but selecting unstable I get an error message about some missing package files. When there is a new netinst image I will give it a try. Regards Harri -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booting netinst from SCSI CDROM fails
Harald Dunkel wrote: - after booting the CD in my SCSI drive I have to reinsert it in an USB drive, cause the aic7xxx driver has been dropped from initrd due to size constraints. Joey told me that this is work in progress. This should be fixed in tomorrow or the next day's images. - while the aic7xxx driver is performing a reset I have to switch to console 2 to remove /sbin/pump to make dhcp work. Weired. This will be fixed as soon as manty cvs up's his debian-cd checkout on gluck. I'm uploading the new netcfg too, which will fix it in a few days by another route. - I get a list of distros to select from, (stable, testing, unstable), but selecting unstable I get an error message about some missing package files. This is next on my list to fix (remove choose-mirror from netinst CD). -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Booting netinst from SCSI CDROM fails
Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: Am Die, den 23.12.2003 schrieb Martin Michlmayr um 09:10: I think if you configure a static IP address, the DHCP menu will stop complaining. At least that's what I did when pump failed and then I could continue. Alternatively, remove /sbin/pump before DHCP is called, and it will use the other DHCP client and just work. This is now fixed in CVS. udhcp is now prefered to pump. I'm despreately waiting for a new netinst image. Regards Harri -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booting netinst from SCSI CDROM fails
Harald Dunkel wrote: I can't remember being asked for a driver floppy. All I saw was a huge menu to chose some of the strange special CDROM drives. Yeah, you have to get past that and to the main menu, and then when you try to load parts of the installer it will have floppy as an option. Anyway, lets assume that I don't have a floppy drive in my PC. There should be sufficient space on the netinst CD to put the SCSI drivers into the initrd. There is a 2.88 MB limit on the size of the boot image for some CDs. The comressed size of a full set of scsi drivers for the linux kernel, excluding scsi raid controllers, is some 750k. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Booting netinst from SCSI CDROM fails
Harald Dunkel wrote: PS: I found the netinst images of Dec17th. But it fails to get an IP address via DHCP and gets stuck again. Running pump on the command line I got pump: libopt.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory The dhclient program is the one the installer currently uses. We need to get pump off of the CD all together (and especially out of udeb_include). -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Booting netinst from SCSI CDROM fails
Harald Dunkel wrote: Any chance to get new netinst images for i386 before the holidays? PS: I found the netinst images of Dec17th. But it fails to get an IP address via DHCP and gets stuck again. Running pump on the command line I got pump: libopt.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Regards Harri -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booting netinst from SCSI CDROM fails
Joey Hess wrote: The dhclient program is the one the installer currently uses. We need to get pump off of the CD all together (and especially out of udeb_include). I switched to the console to find dhclient or dhcpcd anywhere in the mounted filesystems: No luck. Regards Harri -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booting netinst from SCSI CDROM fails
* Harald Dunkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-12-22 10:24]: I switched to the console to find dhclient or dhcpcd anywhere in the mounted filesystems: No luck. /sbin/udhcpc worked for me. -- Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booting netinst from SCSI CDROM fails
Martin Michlmayr wrote: * Harald Dunkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-12-22 10:24]: I switched to the console to find dhclient or dhcpcd anywhere in the mounted filesystems: No luck. /sbin/udhcpc worked for me. It worked for me, too. But I still could not step forward in the main menu. I got a red screen about some network dhcp failure, even though ifconfig on the console showed me that the NIC was correctly configured. Floppy drives are more or less obsolete today. A network install is surely more efficient than writing Sarge on more than 6 CDs to do a CDROM installation. So I would guess it is pretty important to get the netinst CD working. I would be glad to help. Regards Harri -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booting netinst from SCSI CDROM fails
Harald Dunkel wrote: I switched to the console to find dhclient or dhcpcd anywhere in the mounted filesystems: No luck. It's there on the Dec 17th CD anyway. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Booting netinst from SCSI CDROM fails
Martin Michlmayr wrote: * Harald Dunkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-12-22 10:24]: I switched to the console to find dhclient or dhcpcd anywhere in the mounted filesystems: No luck. /sbin/udhcpc worked for me. This seems to be because the netinst CDs have netcfg-dhcp on them. That version was broken and did not depend on any dhcp clients; the udeb_include on the CD pulls in pump, pump is broken due to some library bug. The missing dhcp dependency was put back in version 0.34, which has been stuck in NEW for 10 days. (This is getting kinda annoying.) All my testing with the new netcfg finds that it works, unlike the one in the archive now. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Booting netinst from SCSI CDROM fails
Harald Dunkel wrote: [snip] /sbin/udhcpc worked for me. It worked for me, too. But I still could not step forward in the main menu. I got a red screen about some network dhcp failure, even though ifconfig on the console showed me that the NIC was correctly configured. At least on mips I see the same, caused by missing name resolving. A numeric IP instead of the mirror name is a workaround for the first step, a echo nameserver ip-addr /etc/resolv.conf allows to continue. Thiemo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booting netinst from SCSI CDROM fails
Joey Hess wrote: Harald Dunkel wrote: I switched to the console to find dhclient or dhcpcd anywhere in the mounted filesystems: No luck. It's there on the Dec 17th CD anyway. Found it. But I could not pass the DHCP entry in the main menu, even though I manually called udhcpc, and ifconfig showed me that I've got an IP address from the server. Is there some kind of option to enable additional debug info on an extra terminal, or anything like that? Just to detect what goes wrong. Regards Harri -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booting netinst from SCSI CDROM fails
Harald Dunkel wrote: My PC has only SCSI and USB CD-drives. Using the Woody netinst CD I could successfully install Debian on my PC. But for Sarge netinst (Nov 22nd) it doesn't work. AFAIR I got some message that the CD could not be found, even though the kernel has already been loaded from that same CD. Are there some FAQs especially for netinst that I missed? Yes, see the INSTALLATION-HOWTO: 2.1.1 SCSI CD drives If you have a SCSI CD drive, then you will also currently need one driver floppy to let the installer see your CD drive. See section 2.2 for information about floppys, and download the scsi_drivers floppy image and write it to disk. You will be given an opportunity to load drivers from the floppy after the installer fails to see your SCSI CD drive, and after loading the floppy, the installer will see your CD ROM. However, this is slated to change, the next beta of the installer should support SCSI CD drives without a driver floppy, if the SCSI controller is one of a small set of common controllers (currently those driven by the aic7xxx, BusLogic, and sym53c8xx modules, but I am still in the process of deciding what gets in). By contrast, USB CDROM should work, but has probably not gotten enough testing. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Booting netinst from SCSI CDROM fails
Joey Hess wrote: Harald Dunkel wrote: My PC has only SCSI and USB CD-drives. Using the Woody netinst CD I could successfully install Debian on my PC. But for Sarge netinst (Nov 22nd) it doesn't work. AFAIR I got some message that the CD could not be found, even though the kernel has already been loaded from that same CD. Are there some FAQs especially for netinst that I missed? Yes, see the INSTALLATION-HOWTO: 2.1.1 SCSI CD drives If you have a SCSI CD drive, then you will also currently need one driver floppy to let the installer see your CD drive. See section 2.2 for information about floppys, and download the scsi_drivers floppy image and write it to disk. You will be given an opportunity to load drivers from the floppy after the installer fails to see your SCSI CD drive, and after loading the floppy, the installer will see your CD ROM. I can't remember being asked for a driver floppy. All I saw was a huge menu to chose some of the strange special CDROM drives. Anyway, lets assume that I don't have a floppy drive in my PC. There should be sufficient space on the netinst CD to put the SCSI drivers into the initrd. However, this is slated to change, the next beta of the installer should support SCSI CD drives without a driver floppy, if the SCSI controller is one of a small set of common controllers (currently those driven by the aic7xxx, BusLogic, and sym53c8xx modules, but I am still in the process of deciding what gets in). Any chance to get new netinst images for i386 before the holidays? By contrast, USB CDROM should work, but has probably not gotten enough testing. Sorry, I would be glad to do some testing here, but my PC can't boot from USB. Regards Harri -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booting netinst from SCSI CDROM fails
On Mon, Dec 22, 2003 at 04:10:36AM +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote: By contrast, USB CDROM should work, but has probably not gotten enough testing. Sorry, I would be glad to do some testing here, but my PC can't boot from USB. But you could move the CD from the SCSI CD drive to the USB CD drive after booting :) Cheers, -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Booting netinst from SCSI CDROM fails
Steve Langasek wrote: On Mon, Dec 22, 2003 at 04:10:36AM +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote: By contrast, USB CDROM should work, but has probably not gotten enough testing. Sorry, I would be glad to do some testing here, but my PC can't boot from USB. But you could move the CD from the SCSI CD drive to the USB CD drive after booting :) I do not know why I haven't tried this before. I passed the mount-cd option, but after selecting a distro (Sid), and a partition and filesystem for / (reiserfs) I got stuck in the menu. I could not select anything else but Configure and Mount Partitions. And it did nothing. Especially the new partition for / was neither formatted for reiserfs, nor was it mounted. Regards Harri -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
