Re: My experience with d-i
* Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-11-11 20:17]: | Bill Allombert wrote: | > The help screen [F3] says that 'net' is good for a network install, and | > I wanted to test network install. | | IIRC, The help screens are from the boot-floppies and basically useless. it is from bf. -- Thorsten Sauter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Is there life after /sbin/halt -p?) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: My experience with d-i
On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 02:17:07PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > Bill Allombert wrote: > > The help screen [F3] says that 'net' is good for a network install, and > > I wanted to test network install. > > IIRC, The help screens are from the boot-floppies and basically useless. I suppose it is a bug worth reporting. > > When I try 'Detect CD' it run 'Config network via DHCP' instead > > and lock for two minutes. > > Doesn't make sense to me, there is no dependency there. Sebastian explanation of the problem seems correct. I suppose d-i should not retry a filed operation by itself, especially one that is not mandatory. Cheers, -- Bill. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Imagine a large red swirl here. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: My experience with d-i
Sebastian Ley wrote: > Am Di, den 11.11.2003 schrieb Joey Hess um 20:17: > > > > As for the normal boot: > > > Initial boot worked:[X] > > > Configure network HW: [X] > > > Config network: [ ] I have no DHCP server > > > Detect CD: [ ] > > > Load installer modules: [X] > > > Detect hard drives: [X] > > > > > > When I try 'Detect CD' it run 'Config network via DHCP' instead > > > and lock for two minutes. > > > > Doesn't make sense to me, there is no dependency there. > > I know it, I know it ;-) Took me a good deal of thinking what this is: > > - DHCP fails -> prio set to medium > - user selects "Detect CD", which works instantly and without feedback > -> prio is set to high again > - DHCP has not yet been configured and hence runs again > > For the user it looks like that cdrom-detect has not run but netcfg-dhcp > ran again. Ah, in other words, this is another one that could be fixed by making main-menu smart enough to skip over steps that the user explicitly skipped over. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: My experience with d-i
Am Di, den 11.11.2003 schrieb Joey Hess um 20:17: > > As for the normal boot: > > Initial boot worked:[X] > > Configure network HW: [X] > > Config network: [ ] I have no DHCP server > > Detect CD: [ ] > > Load installer modules: [X] > > Detect hard drives: [X] > > > > When I try 'Detect CD' it run 'Config network via DHCP' instead > > and lock for two minutes. > > Doesn't make sense to me, there is no dependency there. I know it, I know it ;-) Took me a good deal of thinking what this is: - DHCP fails -> prio set to medium - user selects "Detect CD", which works instantly and without feedback -> prio is set to high again - DHCP has not yet been configured and hence runs again For the user it looks like that cdrom-detect has not run but netcfg-dhcp ran again. Sebastian -- PGP-Key: http://www.mmweg.rwth-aachen.de/~sebastian.ley/public.key Fingerprint: A46A 753F AEDC 2C01 BE6E F6DB 97E0 3309 9FD6 E3E6 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: My experience with d-i
Bill Allombert wrote: > The help screen [F3] says that 'net' is good for a network install, and > I wanted to test network install. IIRC, The help screens are from the boot-floppies and basically useless. > Sorry if it was supposed not to work, I was not aware of the fact. > > As for the normal boot: > Initial boot worked:[X] > Configure network HW: [X] > Config network: [ ] I have no DHCP server > Detect CD: [ ] > Load installer modules: [X] > Detect hard drives: [X] > > When I try 'Detect CD' it run 'Config network via DHCP' instead > and lock for two minutes. Doesn't make sense to me, there is no dependency there. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: My experience with d-i
On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 12:47:12PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > Bill Allombert wrote: > > I have entered `net' at boot prompt. > > Why did you do that, instead of just hitting enter? It apparently booted > you up in low priority mode, which explains most of the following: The help screen [F3] says that 'net' is good for a network install, and I wanted to test network install. Sorry if it was supposed not to work, I was not aware of the fact. As for the normal boot: Initial boot worked:[X] Configure network HW: [X] Config network: [ ] I have no DHCP server Detect CD: [ ] Load installer modules: [X] Detect hard drives: [X] When I try 'Detect CD' it run 'Config network via DHCP' instead and lock for two minutes. Cheers, -- Bill. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Imagine a large red swirl here. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: My experience with d-i
Bill Allombert wrote: > I have entered `net' at boot prompt. Why did you do that, instead of just hitting enter? It apparently booted you up in low priority mode, which explains most of the following: > The `Choose language' do nothing, but if I run it, > the `Detect network hardware' will prompt me whether > it should try to detect hardware or not. > If I do not run `Choose language', `Detect network hardware' > directly process to detect hardware > The probe find my hardware (floppy,windbond-840,ide-disk,ide-cd) but > then ask me for options or a lot of module irrelevant to my system. > It finish with `Something has gone wrong'. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: My experience with d-i
Quoting Bill Allombert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Then it proceed with the `Configure network via DHCP'. This one is > really painful, since it lock the install for a long time since I have > no DHCP server, but I was not offered to skip this stage and go directly > to 'Configure a static network'. That one also pisses me off (sorry for maybe too trivial language, folks...I do not really intend to be rude, just a bit humor). I think this is a design choice mostly. People, from the d-i team, who worked during the earlier stages of d-i development can probably explain this choice. > I think 'Configure a static network' asks question in the wrong order. > In a lot of case, hostname, domainname are not required for installing. > (and a lot of people don't have a domainname either. > Even the DNS server is not always needed. > So it should ask first: > the IP > the netmask > the gateway I definitely confirm. Most OS (including Windows flavors) ask these basic question in this order (or, for WIndows, by first showing the IP address/netmask tab) I indeed entered the wrong parameters during some of my own tests and put my IP addressin the "domain" field.. :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
