Re: Please add a d-i.debian.org pseudo package

2014-09-13 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Samstag, 13. September 2014, Don Armstrong wrote:
 Control: submitter -1 Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org
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afaics there is no bug about this?
 
 I can; can you provide the text for this psuedopackage's description, as
 well as an example of a few bugs which will be filed there? [The latter
 is mainly so that I know that the psuedopackage will be used; they don't
 have to yet be filed in the BTS... a few links to messages on -boot
 which are bugs which would have been filed is good enough.]

the text should probably also mention the debian-installer pseudo-package and 
explain how its different...


cheers,
Holger



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Re: Please add a d-i.debian.org pseudo package

2014-09-13 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Don Armstrong d...@debian.org (2014-09-13):
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 On Sat, 13 Sep 2014, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
  Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org (2014-09-07):
   Hi folks,
   
   I'm wondering whether it would make sense to ask ow...@bugs.debian.org
   for a d-i.debian.org pseudo package which could be used to track
   bugs/proposed changes for d-i's infrastructure. This includes but is
   not limited to: the various scripts generating reports on
   d-i.debian.org, scripts used to manage i18n/l10n bits, or various
   cross-package tasks.
  
  Dear owner,
  
  could you please introduce a d-i.debian.org pseudo package with
  debian-boot@lists.debian.org as its maintainer?
 
 I can; can you provide the text for this psuedopackage's description

Looking at the existing descriptions[1], I'd go for something like:

  d-i.debian.org -- Issues regarding the d-i.debian.org service and general 
Debian Installer tasks.

 1. https://www.debian.org/Bugs/pseudo-packages.en

  as
 well as an example of a few bugs which will be filed there? [The latter
 is mainly so that I know that the psuedopackage will be used; they don't
 have to yet be filed in the BTS... a few links to messages on -boot
 which are bugs which would have been filed is good enough.]

Sure, things like this would have been tracked there:
  
http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/d-i/trunk/scripts/testing-summary/gen-summary?r1=69167r2=69316
  https://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2014/09/msg00406.html


More needed tweaks to scripts there (running on dillon = d-i.d.o) would
be documented there, like not sending broken kernel ABI bump
notifications mails when the remote host is down:
| May 31 Linux kernel wa (0.3K) Linux kernel ABI bump in testing: from 3.14-1 
to (none)
| May 31 Linux kernel wa (0.3K) Linux kernel ABI bump in unstable: from 3.14-1 
to (none)
| May 31 Linux kernel wa (0.3K) Linux kernel ABI bump in experimental: from 
3.15-rc7 to (none)
| Jun 01 Linux kernel wa (0.3K) Linux kernel ABI bump in testing: from (none) 
to 3.14-1
| Jun 01 Linux kernel wa (0.3K) Linux kernel ABI bump in unstable: from (none) 
to 3.14-1
| Jun 01 Linux kernel wa (0.3K) Linux kernel ABI bump in experimental: from 
(none) to 3.15-rc7

and also when the version in experimental disappears because it got
uploaded/superceded in unstable.


We could have used it to track this instead of relying on my having the
mail flagged in my maildir:
  https://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2014/09/msg00423.html


We could also use it to track the fact that serving this file properly
(announced as utf-8) would be nice:
  http://d-i.debian.org/translations.txt


Cross package tasks could include reviewing the fonts package (ttf-* vs
fonts-* aren't using the same namespace yet, at least as far as udebs
are concerned).


The #740151 bug against ttf-cjk-compact-udeb might involve some infra
check and/or changes and it would make sense to have it tracked (either
reassigned to or using a blocking bug against d-i.debian.org).


I'm also tempted to open a bug report when preparing each d-i release
and using blocks to keep track of bugs we want to get fixed before a
given release.


I hope this illustrates what was quoted in my initial mail. Please let
me know if you need more examples. Having given all these examples, it
makes me feel like “debian-installer” would be slightly better, but it's
already a real package. “d-i” would work too but I guess having a well
identified “d-i.debian.org” name would avoid any confusion, even if all
bugs aren't about this actual, particular host/service.

Mraw,
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Re: Please add a d-i.debian.org pseudo package

2014-09-13 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org (2014-09-14):
 On Samstag, 13. September 2014, Don Armstrong wrote:
  Control: submitter -1 Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org
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 afaics there is no bug about this?

That's #761450 now.

  I can; can you provide the text for this psuedopackage's description, as
  well as an example of a few bugs which will be filed there? [The latter
  is mainly so that I know that the psuedopackage will be used; they don't
  have to yet be filed in the BTS... a few links to messages on -boot
  which are bugs which would have been filed is good enough.]
 
 the text should probably also mention the debian-installer
 pseudo-package and explain how its different...

debian-installer is not a pseudo package:
  https://packages.debian.org/unstable/debian-installer

bin:debian-installer is built from src:debian-installer (crazy!).

Mraw,
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Re: Please add a d-i.debian.org pseudo package

2014-09-13 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sun, 14 Sep 2014, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
 Looking at the existing descriptions[1], I'd go for something like:
 
   d-i.debian.org -- Issues regarding the d-i.debian.org service and general 
 Debian Installer tasks.

Cool.
 
 Sure, things like this would have been tracked there:
   
 http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/d-i/trunk/scripts/testing-summary/gen-summary?r1=69167r2=69316
   https://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2014/09/msg00406.html

Awesome; this is exactly what I wanted to see. I'll create this package
shortly.

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