Re: help with install on Dell SC420 / SATA / Sarge / netinst / at a_piix

2004-11-28 Thread Colleen Hatfield
On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 19:45:45 -0600, Colleen Hatfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I just installed an SC420 using the RC2 netinstall CD with expert26
 boot parameter yesterday.  Both of these bugs seem to be fixed: I can
 boot without giving acpi=off, and i get no hang after the RTC
 messages.

I just did another install on the same machine to reproduce a
different bug, and found that what I had said here was incorrect.  The
problem isn't fixed in rc2, but in the most recent version of the
2.6.8 kernel that I had gotten via apt from the unstable tree.  So it
is still best to give acpi=off to the installer (though technically
you don't have to if you're willing to ctrl+c a few times).  After
upgrading to the most recent kernel image in unstable
(kernel-image-2.6.8-1-386_2.6.8-10_i386.deb) you will not need that as
a boot option and can remove it from /boot/grub/menu.lst.

Sorry for any confusion :-(

- Colleen


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Re: help with install on Dell SC420 / SATA / Sarge / netinst / at a_piix

2004-11-27 Thread Geert Stappers
 On Tue, Nov 23, 2004 at 12:53:46PM -0500, Eric Silberstein wrote:
 
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 Subject: Re: help with install on Dell SC420 / SATA / Sarge / netinst /
 ata_piix
 
 
  On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 04:59:10PM -0500, Eric Silberstein wrote:
   Hi,
   
   I am a Debian and linux newbie.  I recently purchased a Dell SC420 and
  want
   to install Sarge.  The Dell SC420 has a SATA drive.  I am attempting
  install
   using the 20041120 daily build netinst CD image.  The installer fails to
   recognize my hard drive. Through google
   (http://lists.progeny.com/archive/discover-workers/200410/msg8.html) I
   found the advice Whilst the PATA CDROM drive was detected the main hard
   disk was not - I needed to manually modprobe ata_piix for d-i to run
  through
   correctly.  However, I'm not sure how to do this since the ata_piix
  module
   is not included on the CD image.  Through google
   (http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2004/10/msg00348.html) I found a
  bug
   report saying The kernel-image-2.4.26-1 package doesn't seem to contain
  the
   ata_piix.o module due to a bug in a Makefile.  Both of these bugs are
   reportedly fixed.  What should I do?  Can I download ata_piix.o from
   somewhere and use it during my install process?  Do I need to build my own
   netinst image, and if so, how do I do that?
  
  Last wednesday I did spend with installing on a Dell SC420.
  The great trick was using a 2.6 kernel. They are available for
  debian-installer
  (I used the netboot images ( no rebuild needed )) and do provide the
  ata_piix module.
  
  After the reboot you will encounter #277298, where control-C allows you
  to get a second console, so you can append acpi=off for the next boot.
  
 Hi Geert,
 
 Thanks for your reply.  I guess this is where some of the newbie questions
 come in.

No worries Mate.

I have been newbie myself and on some topic still am.
And there are no stupid questions
(some questions are however to stupid to answer ;-)

 1) What is the netboot image, how do I use it, and where do I get it from?
 Does this method actually require that I do a network boot?  If so, do I
 somehow copy the netboot files to a second computer and point my SC420 to it
 at bootup time?

Sorry for introducing 'netboot', my message was that 2.6 images do exist.
(there were questions how to build netinst CD images, so no need to
build them yourself right now.)

 2) How do I get the 2.6 kernel?
I hope that you found meanwhile 
http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2004/10/msg02182.html
or at least the F1 button hint in the debian-installer splash screen.

 What is the connection between
 stable/testing/unstable and the kernel?  For example, is Sarge based on 2.4
 and unstable on 2.6?
Nope.
The short answer is: nothing to worry about
The long answer is: no time to explain that right here

 
 3) Even if I am able to follow your instructions and install, is what I
 found below still a bug?  Should I log this bug?  If so, how?

 http://www.nl.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting

 Thanks in advance,

You are welcome.
I hope that you learn something,
at least that the reply goes below the text ;-)

 Eric

Cheers
Geert Stappers


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Re: help with install on Dell SC420 / SATA / Sarge / netinst / at a_piix

2004-11-27 Thread Colleen Hatfield
On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 22:53:52 +0100, Geert Stappers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Last wednesday I did spend with installing on a Dell SC420.
   The great trick was using a 2.6 kernel. They are available for
   debian-installer
   (I used the netboot images ( no rebuild needed )) and do provide the
   ata_piix module.
  
   After the reboot you will encounter #277298, where control-C allows you
   to get a second console, so you can append acpi=off for the next boot.

I just installed an SC420 using the RC2 netinstall CD with expert26
boot parameter yesterday.  Both of these bugs seem to be fixed: I can
boot without giving acpi=off, and i get no hang after the RTC
messages.

- Colleen


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RE: help with install on Dell SC420 / SATA / Sarge / netinst / at a_piix

2004-11-23 Thread Eric Silberstein
Hi Geert,

Thanks for your reply.  I guess this is where some of the newbie questions
come in.

1) What is the netboot image, how do I use it, and where do I get it from?
Does this method actually require that I do a network boot?  If so, do I
somehow copy the netboot files to a second computer and point my SC420 to it
at bootup time?

2) How do I get the 2.6 kernel?  What is the connection between
stable/testing/unstable and the kernel?  For example, is Sarge based on 2.4
and unstable on 2.6?

3) Even if I am able to follow your instructions and install, is what I
found below still a bug?  Should I log this bug?  If so, how?

Thanks in advance,

Eric

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Subject: Re: help with install on Dell SC420 / SATA / Sarge / netinst /
ata_piix


On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 04:59:10PM -0500, Eric Silberstein wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I am a Debian and linux newbie.  I recently purchased a Dell SC420 and
want
 to install Sarge.  The Dell SC420 has a SATA drive.  I am attempting
install
 using the 20041120 daily build netinst CD image.  The installer fails to
 recognize my hard drive. Through google
 (http://lists.progeny.com/archive/discover-workers/200410/msg8.html) I
 found the advice Whilst the PATA CDROM drive was detected the main hard
 disk was not - I needed to manually modprobe ata_piix for d-i to run
through
 correctly.  However, I'm not sure how to do this since the ata_piix
module
 is not included on the CD image.  Through google
 (http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2004/10/msg00348.html) I found a
bug
 report saying The kernel-image-2.4.26-1 package doesn't seem to contain
the
 ata_piix.o module due to a bug in a Makefile.  Both of these bugs are
 reportedly fixed.  What should I do?  Can I download ata_piix.o from
 somewhere and use it during my install process?  Do I need to build my own
 netinst image, and if so, how do I do that?

Last wednesday I did spend with installing on a Dell SC420.
The great trick was using a 2.6 kernel. They are available for
debian-installer
(I used the netboot images ( no rebuild needed )) and do provide the
ata_piix module.

After the reboot you will encounter #277298, where control-C allows you
to get a second console, so you can append acpi=off for the next boot.

 Thanks in advance,
 
 Eric Silberstein
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Cheers
Geert Stappers


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