Re: installation-guide: simplify RAM/disk space requirements
Holger Wansing, le ven. 04 août 2023 21:03:38 +0200, a ecrit: > So I propose to change chapter 3 values like > > Install TypeRAM (minimum) RAM (recommended) Hard Drive > - No desktop 256 megabytes 512 megabytes 4 gigabytes > + No desktop 512 megabytes 1 gigabytes 4 gigabytes > With Desktop1 gigabytes 2 gigabytes 10 gigabytes > > > > > I would propose to change chapter 2 > like > > - You must have at least 780MB of memory and 1160MB of hard disk space to > - perform a normal installation." > + You must have at least 512MB of memory and 4GB of hard disk space to > + perform an installation." > > > > > Comments? That looks good to me indeed. Samuel
Re: installation-guide: simplify RAM/disk space requirements
Hi, Samuel Thibault wrote (Fri, 4 Aug 2023 23:06:11 +0200): > Holger Wansing, le ven. 04 août 2023 21:03:38 +0200, a ecrit: > > So I propose to change chapter 3 values like > > > > Install Type RAM (minimum) RAM (recommended) Hard Drive > > - No desktop256 megabytes 512 megabytes 4 gigabytes > > + No desktop512 megabytes 1 gigabytes 4 gigabytes > > With Desktop 1 gigabytes 2 gigabytes 10 gigabytes > > > > > > > > > > I would propose to change chapter 2 > > like > > > > - You must have at least 780MB of memory and 1160MB of hard disk space to > > - perform a normal installation." > > + You must have at least 512MB of memory and 4GB of hard disk space to > > + perform an installation." > > > > > > > > > > Comments? > > That looks good to me indeed. Now looking in the doc source, I see that the "780MB" value from above is architecture-dependent too. While 780MB seems realistic for amd64 to me, I wonder if the other values can be up-to-date: amd64:minimum_memory=780 arm64:minimum_memory=260 armel:minimum_memory=80 armhf:minimum_memory=190 i386:minimum_memory=485 mips:minimum_memory=85 mips64el:minimum_memory=345 mipsel:minimum_memory=170 ppc64el:minimum_memory=64 s390x:minimum_memory=44 In the most eye-catching case of s390x, my proposal would mean, to change the value in the guide from 44 to 512MB ! That leads to the question, if the new situation after my changing would be wrong, or if the doc was wrong in the past? And, if a generic value for all archs is realistic and makes sense at all? My current plan would boil down to the attached patch. Holger -- Holger Wansing PGP-Fingerprint: 496A C6E8 1442 4B34 8508 3529 59F1 87CA 156E B076 diff --git a/build/entities/common.ent b/build/entities/common.ent index 1e58745e1..94c20298b 100644 --- a/build/entities/common.ent +++ b/build/entities/common.ent @@ -66,8 +66,12 @@ Cancel"> Go Back"> - + + + + + - +
Re: installation-guide: simplify RAM/disk space requirements
Holger Wansing, le sam. 05 août 2023 20:46:27 +0200, a ecrit: > Now looking in the doc source, I see that the "780MB" value from above is > architecture-dependent too. Ah, yes, that's part of the lowmem testing. > While 780MB seems realistic for amd64 to me, I wonder if the other values can > be up-to-date: > > amd64:minimum_memory=780 > arm64:minimum_memory=260 > armel:minimum_memory=80 > armhf:minimum_memory=190 > i386:minimum_memory=485 > mips:minimum_memory=85 > mips64el:minimum_memory=345 > mipsel:minimum_memory=170 > ppc64el:minimum_memory=64 > s390x:minimum_memory=44 > > In the most eye-catching case of s390x, my proposal would mean, to change > the value in the guide from 44 to 512MB ! > That leads to the question, if the new situation after my changing would be > wrong, or if the doc was wrong in the past? The doc probably just ended up wrong by just not getting updated, because we don't have people who both care about updating them, and have access to the hardware or know the qemu tricks to test all archs. I see that in the lowmem package, bbb4ed4c4da20d585cf30ceba9f0987173d3ac70 raised the default levels from 32MB/64MB to 120MB/155MB, that being the minimum numbers that were actually seen to work on at least some arch. > And, if a generic value for all archs is realistic and makes sense at all? Probably not, as seen in the values in the lowmem package. Samuel
Re: installation-guide: simplify RAM/disk space requirements
Hi again, Samuel Thibault wrote (Sun, 6 Aug 2023 14:32:22 +0200): > Holger Wansing, le sam. 05 août 2023 20:46:27 +0200, a ecrit: > > Now looking in the doc source, I see that the "780MB" value from above is > > architecture-dependent too. > > Ah, yes, that's part of the lowmem testing. > > > While 780MB seems realistic for amd64 to me, I wonder if the other values > > can > > be up-to-date: > > > > amd64:minimum_memory=780 > > arm64:minimum_memory=260 > > armel:minimum_memory=80 > > armhf:minimum_memory=190 > > i386:minimum_memory=485 > > mips:minimum_memory=85 > > mips64el:minimum_memory=345 > > mipsel:minimum_memory=170 > > ppc64el:minimum_memory=64 > > s390x:minimum_memory=44 > > > > In the most eye-catching case of s390x, my proposal would mean, to change > > the value in the guide from 44 to 512MB ! > > That leads to the question, if the new situation after my changing would be > > wrong, or if the doc was wrong in the past? > > The doc probably just ended up wrong by just not getting updated, > because we don't have people who both care about updating them, and have > access to the hardware or know the qemu tricks to test all archs. > > I see that in the lowmem package, > bbb4ed4c4da20d585cf30ceba9f0987173d3ac70 raised the default levels from > 32MB/64MB to 120MB/155MB, that being the minimum numbers that were > actually seen to work on at least some arch. Ok, I have now included those changes into my patch, to get the numbers up-to-date for all archs. That is: amd64:minimum_memory_strict=350 amd64:minimum_memory=780 arm64:minimum_memory_strict=245 arm64:minimum_memory=260 armel:minimum_memory_strict=140 armel:minimum_memory=190 armhf:minimum_memory_strict=140 armhf:minimum_memory=190 i386:minimum_memory_strict=285 i386:minimum_memory=485 mips64el:minimum_memory_strict=200 mips64el:minimum_memory=345 mipsel:minimum_memory_strict=160 mipsel:minimum_memory=170 ppc64el:minimum_memory_strict=256 ppc64el:minimum_memory=500 s390x:minimum_memory_strict=120 s390x:minimum_memory=155 See patch. > > And, if a generic value for all archs is realistic and makes sense at all? > > Probably not, as seen in the values in the lowmem package. I think I found a reasonable solution. Current situation is: We have two sorts of numbers for RAM size: a) some kind of rough values, identical for all archs. These are just subjective values, rounded up to the next bigger RAM modules you can buy (current values can be found in "Table 3.2. Recommended Minimum System Requirements" at https://d-i.debian.org/manual/en.amd64/ch03s04.html ) These are only rough recommendations, as in "we **recommend** X MB". And this chapter 3.4 also mentions, that these recommendations can well be underrun by the second sort of values: b) these are values based on meassurements during lowmem testing. They are different over the archs, and in the current text they are considered as some kind of strict requirement, as in "you **need** at least X MB" values. --> Compare this to the "we **recommend** X MB" values from a) ! Taking all this as a basis, I would like to propose the following: 1. in chapter 2 (https://people.debian.org/~holgerw/installation-guide___improve-ram-size-values/amd64/ch02s05.html) which is about hardware requirements, just mention the minimal rough recommended values from a) which says something like "512MB" or "1GB", corresponding to RAM modules available from your favorite hardware store. 2. People who want to try to go with lower values, are guided to chapter 3 (https://people.debian.org/~holgerw/installation-guide___improve-ram-size-values/amd64/ch03s04.html), where they find the values from b) based on lowmem tests, which contain the "absolute minimum values", drawing the baseline that cannot be underrun. Note, that this page is different, depending on arch! 3. Move all the constraints / advanced infos like - installer should automatically do memory-saving tricks on low-memory systems" - warning, when lowmem levels are untested for some archs - note, that graphical installer images need more RAM from chapter 2 to 3, where they fit better: That's not hardware (which would be chapter 2), but how the software deals with the available hardware (so that's chapter 3). 4. I moved the values for "Table 3.2. Recommended Minimum System Requirements" from hardcoded values to entities, to ease changings on this in the future (especially when looking at translations). 5. I bumped the recommended RAM size values from a) from 256MB (minimum) + 512MB (recommended) to 512MB (minimum) + 1G (recommended) All the resulting html files, separated for all archs can be found on https://people.debian.org/~holgerw/installation-guide___improve-ram-size-values/ The interesting chapters are "Memory and Disk Space Requirements" in chapter 2 and "Meeting Minimum Hardware Requirements" in chapter 3. Sorry, if this
Re: installation-guide: simplify RAM/disk space requirements
Hello, This looks reasonable, thanks! Samuel Holger Wansing, le mar. 08 août 2023 00:06:14 +0200, a ecrit: > Hi again, > > Samuel Thibault wrote (Sun, 6 Aug 2023 14:32:22 +0200): > > Holger Wansing, le sam. 05 août 2023 20:46:27 +0200, a ecrit: > > > Now looking in the doc source, I see that the "780MB" value from above is > > > architecture-dependent too. > > > > Ah, yes, that's part of the lowmem testing. > > > > > While 780MB seems realistic for amd64 to me, I wonder if the other values > > > can > > > be up-to-date: > > > > > > amd64:minimum_memory=780 > > > arm64:minimum_memory=260 > > > armel:minimum_memory=80 > > > armhf:minimum_memory=190 > > > i386:minimum_memory=485 > > > mips:minimum_memory=85 > > > mips64el:minimum_memory=345 > > > mipsel:minimum_memory=170 > > > ppc64el:minimum_memory=64 > > > s390x:minimum_memory=44 > > > > > > In the most eye-catching case of s390x, my proposal would mean, to change > > > the value in the guide from 44 to 512MB ! > > > That leads to the question, if the new situation after my changing would > > > be > > > wrong, or if the doc was wrong in the past? > > > > The doc probably just ended up wrong by just not getting updated, > > because we don't have people who both care about updating them, and have > > access to the hardware or know the qemu tricks to test all archs. > > > > I see that in the lowmem package, > > bbb4ed4c4da20d585cf30ceba9f0987173d3ac70 raised the default levels from > > 32MB/64MB to 120MB/155MB, that being the minimum numbers that were > > actually seen to work on at least some arch. > > Ok, I have now included those changes into my patch, to get the numbers > up-to-date for all archs. > > That is: > > amd64:minimum_memory_strict=350 > amd64:minimum_memory=780 > > arm64:minimum_memory_strict=245 > arm64:minimum_memory=260 > > armel:minimum_memory_strict=140 > armel:minimum_memory=190 > > armhf:minimum_memory_strict=140 > armhf:minimum_memory=190 > > i386:minimum_memory_strict=285 > i386:minimum_memory=485 > > mips64el:minimum_memory_strict=200 > mips64el:minimum_memory=345 > > mipsel:minimum_memory_strict=160 > mipsel:minimum_memory=170 > > ppc64el:minimum_memory_strict=256 > ppc64el:minimum_memory=500 > > s390x:minimum_memory_strict=120 > s390x:minimum_memory=155 > > See patch. > > > > > And, if a generic value for all archs is realistic and makes sense at all? > > > > Probably not, as seen in the values in the lowmem package. > > I think I found a reasonable solution. > > Current situation is: > > We have two sorts of numbers for RAM size: > > a) some kind of rough values, identical for all archs. These are just >subjective values, rounded up to the next bigger RAM modules you can buy >(current values can be found in >"Table 3.2. Recommended Minimum System Requirements" at >https://d-i.debian.org/manual/en.amd64/ch03s04.html ) >These are only rough recommendations, as in "we **recommend** X MB". >And this chapter 3.4 also mentions, that these recommendations can well be >underrun by the second sort of values: > b) these are values based on meassurements during lowmem testing. They are >different over the archs, and in the current text they are considered as >some kind of strict requirement, as in "you **need** at least X MB" values. >--> Compare this to the "we **recommend** X MB" values from a) ! > > > > > Taking all this as a basis, I would like to propose the following: > > > 1. in chapter 2 > (https://people.debian.org/~holgerw/installation-guide___improve-ram-size-values/amd64/ch02s05.html) >which is about hardware requirements, just mention the minimal rough >recommended values from a) which says something like "512MB" or "1GB", >corresponding to RAM modules available from your favorite hardware store. > > 2. People who want to try to go with lower values, are guided to >chapter 3 > (https://people.debian.org/~holgerw/installation-guide___improve-ram-size-values/amd64/ch03s04.html), >where they find the values from b) based on lowmem tests, which contain >the "absolute minimum values", drawing the baseline that cannot be > underrun. >Note, that this page is different, depending on arch! > > 3. Move all the constraints / advanced infos like > - installer should automatically do memory-saving tricks on low-memory > systems" > - warning, when lowmem levels are untested for some archs > - note, that graphical installer images need more RAM > from chapter 2 to 3, where they fit better: That's not hardware (which would > be chapter 2), but how the software deals with the available hardware (so > that's chapter 3). > > 4. I moved the values for "Table 3.2. Recommended Minimum System Requirements" >from hardcoded values to entities, to ease changings on this in the future >(especially when looking at translations). > > 5. I bumped the recommended RAM size values from a) >from >256MB (m
Re: installation-guide: simplify RAM/disk space requirements
Hi, Samuel Thibault wrote (Tue, 8 Aug 2023 00:14:11 +0200): > Hello, > > This looks reasonable, thanks! Now pushed to git. thanks > Samuel > > Holger Wansing, le mar. 08 août 2023 00:06:14 +0200, a ecrit: > > Hi again, > > > > Samuel Thibault wrote (Sun, 6 Aug 2023 14:32:22 > > +0200): > > > Holger Wansing, le sam. 05 août 2023 20:46:27 +0200, a ecrit: > > > > Now looking in the doc source, I see that the "780MB" value from above > > > > is > > > > architecture-dependent too. > > > > > > Ah, yes, that's part of the lowmem testing. > > > > > > > While 780MB seems realistic for amd64 to me, I wonder if the other > > > > values can > > > > be up-to-date: > > > > > > > > amd64:minimum_memory=780 > > > > arm64:minimum_memory=260 > > > > armel:minimum_memory=80 > > > > armhf:minimum_memory=190 > > > > i386:minimum_memory=485 > > > > mips:minimum_memory=85 > > > > mips64el:minimum_memory=345 > > > > mipsel:minimum_memory=170 > > > > ppc64el:minimum_memory=64 > > > > s390x:minimum_memory=44 > > > > > > > > In the most eye-catching case of s390x, my proposal would mean, to > > > > change > > > > the value in the guide from 44 to 512MB ! > > > > That leads to the question, if the new situation after my changing > > > > would be > > > > wrong, or if the doc was wrong in the past? > > > > > > The doc probably just ended up wrong by just not getting updated, > > > because we don't have people who both care about updating them, and have > > > access to the hardware or know the qemu tricks to test all archs. > > > > > > I see that in the lowmem package, > > > bbb4ed4c4da20d585cf30ceba9f0987173d3ac70 raised the default levels from > > > 32MB/64MB to 120MB/155MB, that being the minimum numbers that were > > > actually seen to work on at least some arch. > > > > Ok, I have now included those changes into my patch, to get the numbers > > up-to-date for all archs. > > > > That is: > > > > amd64:minimum_memory_strict=350 > > amd64:minimum_memory=780 > > > > arm64:minimum_memory_strict=245 > > arm64:minimum_memory=260 > > > > armel:minimum_memory_strict=140 > > armel:minimum_memory=190 > > > > armhf:minimum_memory_strict=140 > > armhf:minimum_memory=190 > > > > i386:minimum_memory_strict=285 > > i386:minimum_memory=485 > > > > mips64el:minimum_memory_strict=200 > > mips64el:minimum_memory=345 > > > > mipsel:minimum_memory_strict=160 > > mipsel:minimum_memory=170 > > > > ppc64el:minimum_memory_strict=256 > > ppc64el:minimum_memory=500 > > > > s390x:minimum_memory_strict=120 > > s390x:minimum_memory=155 > > > > See patch. > > > > > > > > And, if a generic value for all archs is realistic and makes sense at > > > > all? > > > > > > Probably not, as seen in the values in the lowmem package. > > > > I think I found a reasonable solution. > > > > Current situation is: > > > > We have two sorts of numbers for RAM size: > > > > a) some kind of rough values, identical for all archs. These are just > >subjective values, rounded up to the next bigger RAM modules you can buy > >(current values can be found in > >"Table 3.2. Recommended Minimum System Requirements" at > >https://d-i.debian.org/manual/en.amd64/ch03s04.html ) > >These are only rough recommendations, as in "we **recommend** X MB". > >And this chapter 3.4 also mentions, that these recommendations can well > > be > >underrun by the second sort of values: > > b) these are values based on meassurements during lowmem testing. They are > >different over the archs, and in the current text they are considered as > >some kind of strict requirement, as in "you **need** at least X MB" > > values. > >--> Compare this to the "we **recommend** X MB" values from a) ! > > > > > > > > > > Taking all this as a basis, I would like to propose the following: > > > > > > 1. in chapter 2 > > (https://people.debian.org/~holgerw/installation-guide___improve-ram-size-values/amd64/ch02s05.html) > >which is about hardware requirements, just mention the minimal rough > >recommended values from a) which says something like "512MB" or "1GB", > >corresponding to RAM modules available from your favorite hardware store. > > > > 2. People who want to try to go with lower values, are guided to > >chapter 3 > > (https://people.debian.org/~holgerw/installation-guide___improve-ram-size-values/amd64/ch03s04.html), > >where they find the values from b) based on lowmem tests, which contain > >the "absolute minimum values", drawing the baseline that cannot be > > underrun. > >Note, that this page is different, depending on arch! > > > > 3. Move all the constraints / advanced infos like > > - installer should automatically do memory-saving tricks on low-memory > > systems" > > - warning, when lowmem levels are untested for some archs > > - note, that graphical installer images need more RAM > > from chapter 2 to 3, where they fit better: That's not hardware (which > > woul
Re: installation-guide: simplify RAM/disk space requirements
On 06/08/2023 at 14:32, Samuel Thibault wrote: The doc probably just ended up wrong by just not getting updated, In chapter 6.3.1.1. "Check available memory / low memory mode": "If the installer runs in low memory mode, it is recommended to create a relatively large swap partition (64–128MB)." These values are very low by today standards. Also, mentions of ext3 are outdated, I doubt anybody still uses it for new installations.
Re: installation-guide: simplify RAM/disk space requirements
Hi, Pascal Hambourg wrote (Wed, 18 Oct 2023 11:49:42 +0200): > On 06/08/2023 at 14:32, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > > The doc probably just ended up wrong by just not getting updated, > > In chapter 6.3.1.1. "Check available memory / low memory mode": > > "If the installer runs in low memory mode, it is recommended to create a > relatively large swap partition (64–128MB)." You are right. I could change that into something like 1-2 GB. One might think, this is still "relatively small" these days, but it's always enough for the installer, so I think that would be ok. > > These values are very low by today standards. > Also, mentions of ext3 are outdated, I doubt anybody still uses it for > new installations. Holger -- Holger Wansing PGP-Fingerprint: 496A C6E8 1442 4B34 8508 3529 59F1 87CA 156E B076
Re: installation-guide: simplify RAM/disk space requirements
Hi, Holger Wansing wrote (Mon, 30 Oct 2023 11:49:29 +0100): > Hi, > > Pascal Hambourg wrote (Wed, 18 Oct 2023 11:49:42 > +0200): > > On 06/08/2023 at 14:32, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > > > > The doc probably just ended up wrong by just not getting updated, > > > > In chapter 6.3.1.1. "Check available memory / low memory mode": > > > > "If the installer runs in low memory mode, it is recommended to create a > > relatively large swap partition (64–128MB)." > > You are right. > I could change that into something like 1-2 GB. > One might think, this is still "relatively small" these days, but it's > always enough for the installer, so I think that would be ok. Ah, I realize that the above is completely bullshit: the swap partition is not only for the installer, but later for installed system as well (shame on me). So should I change to "2-4 GB at least" ? Holger > > These values are very low by today standards. > > Also, mentions of ext3 are outdated, I doubt anybody still uses it for > > new installations. -- Holger Wansing PGP-Fingerprint: 496A C6E8 1442 4B34 8508 3529 59F1 87CA 156E B076
Re: installation-guide: simplify RAM/disk space requirements
On 01/11/2023 at 20:46, Holger Wansing wrote: In chapter 6.3.1.1. "Check available memory / low memory mode": "If the installer runs in low memory mode, it is recommended to create a relatively large swap partition (64–128MB)." I could change that into something like 1-2 GB. One might think, this is still "relatively small" these days, but it's always enough for the installer, so I think that would be ok. Ah, I realize that the above is completely bullshit: the swap partition is not only for the installer, but later for installed system as well (shame on me). So should I change to "2-4 GB at least" ? The installer running in low memory mode means that the system RAM is less than 1 GB, so I doubt that a swap bigger than 2 GB makes sense.
Re: installation-guide: simplify RAM/disk space requirements
Hi, Pascal Hambourg wrote (Wed, 1 Nov 2023 23:35:00 +0100): > On 01/11/2023 at 20:46, Holger Wansing wrote: > >>> > >>> In chapter 6.3.1.1. "Check available memory / low memory mode": > >>> > >>> "If the installer runs in low memory mode, it is recommended to create a > >>> relatively large swap partition (64–128MB)." > >> > >> I could change that into something like 1-2 GB. > >> One might think, this is still "relatively small" these days, but it's > >> always enough for the installer, so I think that would be ok. > > > > Ah, I realize that the above is completely bullshit: > > the swap partition is not only for the installer, but later for installed > > system as well (shame on me). > > > > So should I change to "2-4 GB at least" ? > > The installer running in low memory mode means that the system RAM is > less than 1 GB, so I doubt that a swap bigger than 2 GB makes sense. Now changed to "1-2GB". Thanks Holger -- Holger Wansing PGP-Fingerprint: 496A C6E8 1442 4B34 8508 3529 59F1 87CA 156E B076
installer help screen (Was: Re: installation-guide: simplify RAM/disk space requirements)
Hi, a follow-up on this regarding installer help screen: Holger Wansing wrote (Tue, 8 Aug 2023 00:06:14 +0200): > amd64:minimum_memory_strict=350 > amd64:minimum_memory=780 > > arm64:minimum_memory_strict=245 > arm64:minimum_memory=260 > > armel:minimum_memory_strict=140 > armel:minimum_memory=190 > > armhf:minimum_memory_strict=140 > armhf:minimum_memory=190 > > i386:minimum_memory_strict=285 > i386:minimum_memory=485 Looking at this values (the current ones from lowmem), we have 350MB for amd64 and 285MB for i386. The installer help screen F2 has the 285MB value (grabbed from i386 ?) even on the amd64 image. Should this be sync'ed somehow? (Of course, bumping this value from 285 to 350 means, that the i386 installer help screen says "350MB needed", which is strictly not correct, but that's not a blocker IMO ?) Or another approach: should we rephrase this similar to what we have now on https://d-i.debian.org/manual/en.amd64/ch02s05.html to say something like "We recommend xx MB of RAM" instead of "You need at least xx" ? Or even "You must have at least 350 megabytes of RAM to use this Debian installer, but we recommend a minimum of 512 megabytes." Holger -- Holger Wansing PGP-Fingerprint: 496A C6E8 1442 4B34 8508 3529 59F1 87CA 156E B076
Re: installer help screen (Was: Re: installation-guide: simplify RAM/disk space requirements)
Holger Wansing, le jeu. 24 août 2023 08:01:46 +0200, a ecrit: > Holger Wansing wrote (Tue, 8 Aug 2023 00:06:14 +0200): > > amd64:minimum_memory_strict=350 > > amd64:minimum_memory=780 > > > > i386:minimum_memory_strict=285 > > i386:minimum_memory=485 > > Looking at this values (the current ones from lowmem), we have 350MB for > amd64 and 285MB for i386. > The installer help screen F2 has the 285MB value (grabbed from i386 ?) even > on > the amd64 image. > > Should this be sync'ed somehow? They need to be updated when updating the values in lowmem, yes. > (Of course, bumping this value from 285 to 350 means, that the i386 installer > help screen says "350MB needed", which is strictly not correct, but that's > not a blocker IMO ?) I'd say we can as well just put the amd64 values there. Samuel
Re: installer help screen (Was: Re: installation-guide: simplify RAM/disk space requirements)
Hi, Samuel Thibault wrote (Thu, 24 Aug 2023 21:14:29 +0200): > Holger Wansing, le jeu. 24 août 2023 08:01:46 +0200, a ecrit: > > Holger Wansing wrote (Tue, 8 Aug 2023 00:06:14 > > +0200): > > > amd64:minimum_memory_strict=350 > > > amd64:minimum_memory=780 > > > > > > i386:minimum_memory_strict=285 > > > i386:minimum_memory=485 > > > > Looking at this values (the current ones from lowmem), we have 350MB for > > amd64 and 285MB for i386. > > The installer help screen F2 has the 285MB value (grabbed from i386 ?) even > > on > > the amd64 image. > > > > Should this be sync'ed somehow? > > They need to be updated when updating the values in lowmem, yes. > > > (Of course, bumping this value from 285 to 350 means, that the i386 > > installer > > help screen says "350MB needed", which is strictly not correct, but that's > > not a blocker IMO ?) > > I'd say we can as well just put the amd64 values there. Done. Thanks Holger -- Holger Wansing PGP-Fingerprint: 496A C6E8 1442 4B34 8508 3529 59F1 87CA 156E B076
