Re: installation-guide for testing
Hi, Laura Arjona Reina wrote: > > > El 26/1/20 a las 22:26, Holger Wansing escribió: > > Hi, > > > > Holger Wansing wrote: > >> Am Freitag, 24. Januar 2020 schrieb Laura Arjona Reina: > >>> We already have a commented out L226 in > >>> https://salsa.debian.org/webmaster-team/webwml/blob/master/english/devel/debian-installer/index.wml > >>> (and translations): > >>> > >>> #development > >>> version, > >>> > >>> I think that just removing the "#" there, committing, and then syncing > >>> translation would do the work, isn't it? > >>> > >>> If yes, I would say go ahead :-) > > > > This is now done. > > > >> My point is removing the stable link. > >> Or we should rephrase it, because "version for current > >> release" is not definite: "testing" is also a "release". > >> (Looking at https://www.debian.org/releases it reads > >> "Debian always has at least three releases in active maintenance: > >> stable, testing and unstable.") > >> > >> So that should be "version for the current stable release", > >> if we keep that link. > > > > Any objections on removing the stable link? > > Not from my side, I agree with the reasons you explain below. Since there were no objections (also from d-i side) I changed that now (including translations). Holger > > We are in the development part of the webpage, and at the very top of that > > page we have a hint pointing to the stable page for information about > > stable > > release. > > Thus pointing to the stable installation-guide from that page can be > > considered > > as inconsistency and maybe error-prone. > > > > -- > Laura Arjona Reina > https://wiki.debian.org/LauraArjona -- Holger Wansing PGP-Fingerprint: 496A C6E8 1442 4B34 8508 3529 59F1 87CA 156E B076
Re: installation-guide for testing
El 26/1/20 a las 22:26, Holger Wansing escribió: > Hi, > > Holger Wansing wrote: >> Am Freitag, 24. Januar 2020 schrieb Laura Arjona Reina: >>> We already have a commented out L226 in >>> https://salsa.debian.org/webmaster-team/webwml/blob/master/english/devel/debian-installer/index.wml >>> (and translations): >>> >>> #development >>> version, >>> >>> I think that just removing the "#" there, committing, and then syncing >>> translation would do the work, isn't it? >>> >>> If yes, I would say go ahead :-) > > This is now done. > >> My point is removing the stable link. >> Or we should rephrase it, because "version for current >> release" is not definite: "testing" is also a "release". >> (Looking at https://www.debian.org/releases it reads >> "Debian always has at least three releases in active maintenance: >> stable, testing and unstable.") >> >> So that should be "version for the current stable release", >> if we keep that link. > > Any objections on removing the stable link? Not from my side, I agree with the reasons you explain below. Kind regards > We are in the development part of the webpage, and at the very top of that > page we have a hint pointing to the stable page for information about stable > release. > Thus pointing to the stable installation-guide from that page can be > considered > as inconsistency and maybe error-prone. > -- Laura Arjona Reina https://wiki.debian.org/LauraArjona
Re: installation-guide for testing
Hi, Holger Wansing wrote: > Am Freitag, 24. Januar 2020 schrieb Laura Arjona Reina: > > We already have a commented out L226 in > > https://salsa.debian.org/webmaster-team/webwml/blob/master/english/devel/debian-installer/index.wml > > (and translations): > > > > #development > > version, > > > > I think that just removing the "#" there, committing, and then syncing > > translation would do the work, isn't it? > > > > If yes, I would say go ahead :-) This is now done. > My point is removing the stable link. > Or we should rephrase it, because "version for current > release" is not definite: "testing" is also a "release". > (Looking at https://www.debian.org/releases it reads > "Debian always has at least three releases in active maintenance: > stable, testing and unstable.") > > So that should be "version for the current stable release", > if we keep that link. Any objections on removing the stable link? We are in the development part of the webpage, and at the very top of that page we have a hint pointing to the stable page for information about stable release. Thus pointing to the stable installation-guide from that page can be considered as inconsistency and maybe error-prone. Holger -- Holger Wansing PGP-Fingerprint: 496A C6E8 1442 4B34 8508 3529 59F1 87CA 156E B076
Re: installation-guide for testing
Hi, Am Freitag, 24. Januar 2020 schrieb Laura Arjona Reina: > El 23/1/20 a las 22:00, Holger Wansing escribió: > > Hi, > > > > we have the installation-guide available for testing at the website now > > (say the version built from the latest source package in UNSTABLE). > > > > This is now built automatically, when a new installation-guide package is > > uploaded. > > > > In fact, the same counts for stable, so we have now two different versions > > of > > that manual on the website: the latest version for stable and for testing. > > > > This was a long standing issue on the website (release names were hardcoded, > > and getting the right version built when we upload the first version for the > > next release was always a pain), but that should be over now. > > > > Thank you very much!! > > > So, the version for stable is available at > > https://www.debian.org/releases/buster/installmanual > > (as always) and the one for testing at > > https://www.debian.org/releases/bullseye/installmanual > > however there is no link to that page currently on the website (as long as > > bullseye is testing). > > > > > > Do we want to change that, now that this version is regularly available? > > (Info: there is a link to that page in the wiki at > > https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller ) > > > > > > When visiting the releases/bullseye page at > > https://www.debian.org/releases/bullseye/ > > there is a link pointing to > > https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ > > and on that page there is (in section "Documentation") a link to the stable > > manual and the git version. > > I would suggest - as the smallest variant - to change the "stable" link into > > the "testing" one. There is no point in linking to the stable one there, > > since > > at the top of the page, we have > > "For official Debian 10.2 installation media and information, see the > > buster page." > > So, no need to link to the stable manual at the bottom of the page. > > > > > > What do you think? > > > > We already have a commented out L226 in > https://salsa.debian.org/webmaster-team/webwml/blob/master/english/devel/debian-installer/index.wml > (and translations): > > #development version, > > I think that just removing the "#" there, committing, and then syncing > translation would do the work, isn't it? > > If yes, I would say go ahead :-) My point is removing the stable link. Or we should rephrase it, because "version for current release" is not definite: "testing" is also a "release". (Looking at https://www.debian.org/releases it reads "Debian always has at least three releases in active maintenance: stable, testing and unstable.") So that should be "version for the current stable release", if we keep that link. Holger -- Sent from my Jolla phone http://www.jolla.com/
Re: installation-guide for testing
Hi El 23/1/20 a las 22:00, Holger Wansing escribió: > Hi, > > we have the installation-guide available for testing at the website now > (say the version built from the latest source package in UNSTABLE). > > This is now built automatically, when a new installation-guide package is > uploaded. > > In fact, the same counts for stable, so we have now two different versions of > that manual on the website: the latest version for stable and for testing. > > This was a long standing issue on the website (release names were hardcoded, > and getting the right version built when we upload the first version for the > next release was always a pain), but that should be over now. > Thank you very much!! > So, the version for stable is available at > https://www.debian.org/releases/buster/installmanual > (as always) and the one for testing at > https://www.debian.org/releases/bullseye/installmanual > however there is no link to that page currently on the website (as long as > bullseye is testing). > > > Do we want to change that, now that this version is regularly available? > (Info: there is a link to that page in the wiki at > https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller ) > > > When visiting the releases/bullseye page at > https://www.debian.org/releases/bullseye/ > there is a link pointing to > https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ > and on that page there is (in section "Documentation") a link to the stable > manual and the git version. > I would suggest - as the smallest variant - to change the "stable" link into > the "testing" one. There is no point in linking to the stable one there, since > at the top of the page, we have > "For official Debian 10.2 installation media and information, see the buster > page." > So, no need to link to the stable manual at the bottom of the page. > > > What do you think? > We already have a commented out L226 in https://salsa.debian.org/webmaster-team/webwml/blob/master/english/devel/debian-installer/index.wml (and translations): #development version, I think that just removing the "#" there, committing, and then syncing translation would do the work, isn't it? If yes, I would say go ahead :-) Kind regards, -- Laura Arjona Reina https://wiki.debian.org/LauraArjona
