Re: plans for d-i string freeze
On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 06:17:41PM +0100, Thomas Poindessous wrote: On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 09:11:43PM -0500, David Nusinow wrote: Hi Joey and everyone, thanks for the cc. I'm willing to maintain discover in maintainance mode, but if Progeny plans to focus on discover2, I don't really see the point in keeping discover1 alive beyond the sarge release. The fix from Thomas Poindessous isn't really a fix at all, if you look at it. It seems the real bug is in linux-kernel-headers, from what I can tell, so once that's fixed an upload can be made. If anyone at all is interested in maintaining discover1, I won't stand in their way. Hi ! as I explained in the bts, the recent change in glibc and linux-kernel-headers has changed the way to handle inclusion of kernel headers. userland application ( like discover ) must copy headers they are using, they must not including kernel headers. Further informations can be found in glibc mailing list. This is not a recent change. Ugly though it is, this has been the canonical way to deal with kernel headers for a long, long time. The switch to 2.6 headers that comes with the linux-kernel-headers package simply broke a few more things that weren't following this rule, but it's not the first time this has happened. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: plans for d-i string freeze
On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 04:24:17PM +0100, Denis Barbier wrote: [...] Thanks to all of us. I just downloaded this tarball, and will provide per language tarballs with PO files in few hours. As CVS is working again for the debian-installer, there is no more need for such tarballs. My cronjob is working again and generates http://people.debian.org/~barbier/d-i/l10n/ Files will be available as soon as the web server is configured to deliver pages under our personal directories. In the meantime, they have been copied at http://perso.linuxfr.org/barbier/d-i/l10n/ Denis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: plans for d-i string freeze
On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 11:27:40PM +0100, Denis Barbier wrote: Thanks to all of us. I just downloaded this tarball, and will provide per language tarballs with PO files in few hours. As CVS is working again for the debian-installer, there is no more need for such tarballs. Could someone tell me what do I have to do to get back r/w access to CVS repositories? I hope it won't be impossible task after that luckless compromise :/ I had access to debian-boot, ddp and webwml before. I mark out that I am not Debian developer yet :/ [...] regards fEnIo -- _ Bartosz Feski aka fEnIo | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | pgp:0x13fefc40 _|_|_32-050 Skawina - Gowackiego 3/15 - w. maopolskie - Polska (0 0) phone:+48501608340 | ICQ:46704720 | GG:726362 | IRC:fEnIo ooO--(_)--Ooo http://skawina.eu.org | JID:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | RLU:172001 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: plans for d-i string freeze
On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 11:47:43PM +0100, Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo wrote: [...] Could someone tell me what do I have to do to get back r/w access to CVS repositories? I hope it won't be impossible task after that luckless compromise :/ You certainly already read this message after posting: http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2003/debian-boot-200312/msg00186.html Denis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: plans for d-i string freeze
Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo wrote: On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 11:27:40PM +0100, Denis Barbier wrote: Thanks to all of us. I just downloaded this tarball, and will provide per language tarballs with PO files in few hours. As CVS is working again for the debian-installer, there is no more need for such tarballs. Could someone tell me what do I have to do to get back r/w access to CVS repositories? I hope it won't be impossible task after that luckless compromise :/ I had access to debian-boot, ddp and webwml before. I mark out that I am not Debian developer yet :/ Did you use the debian-installer part of d-i cvs? The other repos are not available yet. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: plans for d-i string freeze
Quoting David Nusinow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hi Joey and everyone, thanks for the cc. I'm willing to maintain discover in maintainance mode, but if Progeny plans to focus on discover2, I don't really see the point in keeping discover1 alive beyond the sarge release. The fix from Thomas Poindessous isn't really a fix at all, if you look at it. It seems the real bug is in linux-kernel-headers, from what I can tell, so once that's fixed an upload can be made. If anyone at all is interested in maintaining discover1, I won't stand in their way. When reading Thomas fix, I had this feeling, yes. However, the point is to remove this FTBFS bug from discover1 so that it can be part of the sarge release. Thomas fix may be called a ugly hack, I guees, but it works...and thus allows me to do what I first intended to do -- switch to po-debconf and have the debconf templates translated. I'm currently inthe process of having a quick NMU uploaded (with the help of Joey), by using Thomas dirty fix. I don't have the skills for doing a better job, unfotunately. I propose that I send you a copy of the fixed diff file for the 1.5-1.4.2 NMU. Then you may have a look at it and propose a better fix. Thus, you may then be able to propose a clean 1.4.3 fix. Are you OK with this way to deal with this ? Discover1 needs to be kept alive in sargeat least because d-i is using it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: plans for d-i string freeze
Looks like David Nusinow's mail server doesn't like mine : This is the Postfix program at host kheops.homeunix.org. I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned below could not be delivered to one or more destinations. For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the message returned below. The Postfix program [EMAIL PROTECTED]: host vmh-ext.prodigy.net[207.115.63.97] said: 550 5.0.0 Access denied If someone (Joey?) can forward him the former mail, I would appreciate. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [bubulle@debian.org: Re: plans for d-i string freeze]
On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 08:46:58PM +1100, Martin Michlmayr wrote: When reading Thomas fix, I had this feeling, yes. However, the point is to remove this FTBFS bug from discover1 so that it can be part of the sarge release. Definitely. This and the /cdrom mount bug. Thomas fix may be called a ugly hack, I guees, but it works...and thus allows me to do what I first intended to do -- switch to po-debconf and have the debconf templates translated. I'm currently inthe process of having a quick NMU uploaded (with the help of Joey), by using Thomas dirty fix. Good to hear! I don't have the skills for doing a better job, unfotunately. I propose that I send you a copy of the fixed diff file for the 1.5-1.4.2 NMU. Then you may have a look at it and propose a better fix. Thus, you may then be able to propose a clean 1.4.3 fix. Are you OK with this way to deal with this ? This is perfect for now. I'd rather see the RC bug out of the way so things can actually move forward. Once the linux-kernel-headers are fixed, we can just get rid of the hack and be done with it. I'd like to try and clean up the RC bug fix as well, since it's not as clean as it could be. I'll see about applying some of the other patches that have been languishing in the bts for a while. Discover1 needs to be kept alive in sargeat least because d-i is using it. Ok, that's true. I'm more than happy to keep it alive for the time being. I'll contact the progeny people and see about some kind of transition plan as well. - David Nusinow p.s. Sorry about the mail bounce. I'm subscribed to -boot now, so no need to cc me any more. Thanks to you guys for going to the trouble to get the mail to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: plans for d-i string freeze
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 09:10:05PM +0100, Denis Barbier wrote: On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 10:57:13PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: [...] If you're interested in adding a new language to d-i in time for the next beta, you should start translation now, or have already started, as the one week string freeze will likely not be enough time for a full translation from scratch. Of course with CVS down this can be hard, so you should at least get started as soon as CVS comes back up. [...] Does someone has a recent CVS snapshot? We could then provide PO files to translators. According to stat, my lastest snapshot was Wed Nov 19 18:56:13 2003. I am uploading it on my website : http://migus.tuxfamily.org/debian/debian-installer-snapshot/ Should be ok, in a few minutes. Cheers, -- Pierre Machard [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://debian.org GPG: 1024D/23706F87 : B906 A53F 84E0 49B6 6CF7 82C2 B3A0 2D66 2370 6F87 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: plans for d-i string freeze
On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 04:10:54PM +0100, Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo wrote: On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 03:23:39PM +0100, Pierre Machard wrote: Does someone has a recent CVS snapshot? We could then provide PO files to translators. According to stat, my lastest snapshot was Wed Nov 19 18:56:13 2003. Seems that I've got more recent snapshot. 2003-11-21 00:00:36.0 +0100 It can be fetched from: http://skawina.eu.org/debian-installer.tar.bz2 Thanks to all of us. I just downloaded this tarball, and will provide per language tarballs with PO files in few hours. Denis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: plans for d-i string freeze
On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 03:23:39PM +0100, Pierre Machard wrote: Does someone has a recent CVS snapshot? We could then provide PO files to translators. According to stat, my lastest snapshot was Wed Nov 19 18:56:13 2003. Seems that I've got more recent snapshot. 2003-11-21 00:00:36.0 +0100 It can be fetched from: http://skawina.eu.org/debian-installer.tar.bz2 [...] regards fEnIo -- _ Bartosz Feski aka fEnIo | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | pgp:0x13fefc40 _|_|_32-050 Skawina - Gowackiego 3/15 - w. maopolskie - Polska (0 0) phone:+48501608340 | ICQ:46704720 | GG:726362 | IRC:fEnIo ooO--(_)--Ooo http://skawina.eu.org | JID:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | RLU:172001 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: plans for d-i string freeze
On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 09:11:43PM -0500, David Nusinow wrote: On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 11:24:56AM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: Christian Perrier wrote: Hi Joey and everyone, thanks for the cc. I'm willing to maintain discover in maintainance mode, but if Progeny plans to focus on discover2, I don't really see the point in keeping discover1 alive beyond the sarge release. The fix from Thomas Poindessous isn't really a fix at all, if you look at it. It seems the real bug is in linux-kernel-headers, from what I can tell, so once that's fixed an upload can be made. If anyone at all is interested in maintaining discover1, I won't stand in their way. Hi ! as I explained in the bts, the recent change in glibc and linux-kernel-headers has changed the way to handle inclusion of kernel headers. userland application ( like discover ) must copy headers they are using, they must not including kernel headers. Further informations can be found in glibc mailing list. -- Thomas Poindessous -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: plans for d-i string freeze
On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 09:11:43PM -0500, David Nusinow wrote: On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 11:24:56AM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: Christian Perrier wrote: Hi Joey and everyone, thanks for the cc. I'm willing to maintain discover in maintainance mode, but if Progeny plans to focus on discover2, I don't really see the point in keeping discover1 alive beyond the sarge release. The fix from Thomas Poindessous isn't really a fix at all, if you look at it. It seems the real bug is in linux-kernel-headers, from what I can tell, so once that's fixed an upload can be made. If anyone at all is interested in maintaining discover1, I won't stand in their way. Hi, I found this : /usr/share/doc/linux-kernel-headers/README.Debian I hope this is a better explanation than mine. -- Thomas Poindessous -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: plans for d-i string freeze
On Sun, 7 Dec 2003 18:17:41 +0100, Thomas Poindessous wrote: as I explained in the bts, the recent change in glibc and linux-kernel-headers has changed the way to handle inclusion of kernel headers. userland application ( like discover ) must copy headers they are using, they must not including kernel headers. Further informations can be found in glibc mailing list. Ok, that's fine. I didn't realize that this was a purposeful change. I'll include the headers for now. I read the README.Debian as well, but it didn't really explain why this was. If you happen to have a link to a particular message as to why this is (I can't find one) it'd be much appreciated. - David Nusinow -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: plans for d-i string freeze
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 11:24:56AM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: Christian Perrier wrote: Critical work to do: discover (221302, FTBFS found while trying to NMU, I'm unable to correct this alone and I can't upload anymore due to GPG key compromission) There is a patch in the bts from Thomas Poindessous for that build failure. If you can send me your patch, I can see about doing an upload. Also, David Nusinow expressed interest in maintaining it. Hi Joey and everyone, thanks for the cc. I'm willing to maintain discover in maintainance mode, but if Progeny plans to focus on discover2, I don't really see the point in keeping discover1 alive beyond the sarge release. The fix from Thomas Poindessous isn't really a fix at all, if you look at it. It seems the real bug is in linux-kernel-headers, from what I can tell, so once that's fixed an upload can be made. If anyone at all is interested in maintaining discover1, I won't stand in their way. - David Nusinow p.s. Please cc me, as I'm still off-list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: plans for d-i string freeze
Quoting Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I think that the debconf template polishing effort is nearly complete, Status as of 11/19, including 2nd stage packages Critical work to do: discover (221302, FTBFS found while trying to NMU, I'm unable to correct this alone and I can't upload anymore due to GPG key compromission) OK: anna retriever/floppy tools/grub-installer tools/yaboot-installer tools/mips/arcboot-installer tools/autopartkit tools/cdrom-checker tools/kbd-chooser tools/cdebconf retriever/choose-mirror console-data COMMITED (waiting for release): tools/aboot-installer tools/lilo-installer tools/hppa/palo-installer tools/sparc/silo-installer tools/ia64/elilo-installer tools/baseconfig-udeb tools/s390/dasd tools/base-installer tools/ddetect tools/iso-scan tools/partconf tools/netcfg tools/partitioner tools/prebaseconfig utils (di-utils) tools/cdrom-detect main-menu tools/s390/netdevice base-config tasksel NOT OK: tools/lvmcfg Bug21947, not pending 11/13, bug218567, Commited 19/11 shadow, bug 221151 discover, NMU planned but #221302 FTBFS exim4-config, bug 221838 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: plans for d-i string freeze
Quoting Denis Barbier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I meant the latter, and I do not have a full up-to-date checkout. I have a checkout from 11/18 at 18h55 GMT. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: plans for d-i string freeze
Christian Perrier wrote: Critical work to do: discover (221302, FTBFS found while trying to NMU, I'm unable to correct this alone and I can't upload anymore due to GPG key compromission) There is a patch in the bts from Thomas Poindessous for that build failure. If you can send me your patch, I can see about doing an upload. Also, David Nusinow expressed interest in maintaining it. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: plans for d-i string freeze
Il gio, 2003-12-04 alle 04:57, Joey Hess ha scritto: I'm currently planning to start the debian-installer string freeze one week after both CVS and Incoming are available again, and let the string freeze last for only one week. I had been hoping for two weeks, but the recent compromise has us behind schedule, and having CVS down due to that may have been a pretty effective string freeze already. I hope that when CVS comes back up we'll see a lot of translators upload many pending updates. I'm targeting the release of d-i beta 2 at less than on week after the end of the string freeze. [...] This is a very good news. There has already been some work in order to create the italian localization. We are stopped since CVS isn't available at the moment, and we miss a recent update. We also plan to have the first italian translation party on the 13th, so we will probably commit everything after this party. Is there any idea about when the CVS will be up again? Bye, Giuseppe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: plans for d-i string freeze
On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 10:57:13PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: [...] If you're interested in adding a new language to d-i in time for the next beta, you should start translation now, or have already started, as the one week string freeze will likely not be enough time for a full translation from scratch. Of course with CVS down this can be hard, so you should at least get started as soon as CVS comes back up. [...] Does someone has a recent CVS snapshot? We could then provide PO files to translators. Denis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: plans for d-i string freeze
Denis Barbier wrote: On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 10:57:13PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: [...] If you're interested in adding a new language to d-i in time for the next beta, you should start translation now, or have already started, as the one week string freeze will likely not be enough time for a full translation from scratch. Of course with CVS down this can be hard, so you should at least get started as soon as CVS comes back up. [...] Does someone has a recent CVS snapshot? We could then provide PO files to translators. Not sure if you mean a cvs repo snapshot (don't have one yet), or a cvs tree (I'm sure we all have one). BTW, the archive is accepting uploads now via the anon upload queue on auric. So now we only need to get cvs straightened out. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: plans for d-i string freeze
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 04:47:06PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: Denis Barbier wrote: [...] Does someone has a recent CVS snapshot? We could then provide PO files to translators. Not sure if you mean a cvs repo snapshot (don't have one yet), or a cvs tree (I'm sure we all have one). I meant the latter, and I do not have a full up-to-date checkout. If someone could put it online, I will try to generate po-XX.tgz tarballs containing only PO files for all languages. Denis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
