Re: state of d-i sarge: broken

2004-07-04 Thread C. Gatzemeier
Am Saturday 03 July 2004 21:14 schrieb Geert Stappers:
 On Sat, Jul 03, 2004 at 02:29:55PM +0200, C. Gatzemeier wrote:

  If it would be possible to provide daily PXE or Etherboot d-i images that
  might help. People could let their boot servers serve up those and
  quickly test most functionality on garden variety hardware.

 A visit to http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ports-status
 and some clicks got me to
  http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/images/daily/netboot/

 Is that what you proposed?

Hey thanks a lot!
Those already are exactly the d-i files I had in mind. I was additionally 
thinking if those could be made available by tftp publicly, it would be a 
snap setting up the local dhcp server to point to those (or to the PXE 
bootloader for PXE capable clients respectively).

It is especially easy for people with cable/dsl routers to temporarily put an 
URL for the PXE bootloader into their routers webinterface to install and 
test debian without the need to write any static bootmedia.

People without webinterfaced routers could follow the dhcpd instructions on
http://wiki.debian.net/index.cgi?DebianInstallerNetbootPXE
or even a script maybe.

Cheers
Christian



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Re: state of d-i sarge: broken

2004-07-04 Thread Frans Pop
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On Sunday 04 July 2004 15:45, C. Gatzemeier wrote:
 Am Saturday 03 July 2004 21:14 schrieb Geert Stappers:
  A visit to http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ports-status
  and some clicks got me to
   http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/images/daily/netboot/
 
  Is that what you proposed?

 Hey thanks a lot!
 Those already are exactly the d-i files I had in mind.

As the link above is daily, this should be a sarge_d-i build.
Are there also sid_d-i netboot images available?

Cheers,
FJP
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Re: state of d-i sarge: broken

2004-07-04 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Jul 04, 2004 at 05:39:22PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
 On Sunday 04 July 2004 15:45, C. Gatzemeier wrote:
  Am Saturday 03 July 2004 21:14 schrieb Geert Stappers:
   A visit to http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ports-status
   and some clicks got me to
http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/images/daily/netboot/
  
   Is that what you proposed?
 
  Hey thanks a lot!
  Those already are exactly the d-i files I had in mind.
 
 As the link above is daily, this should be a sarge_d-i build.

You're confusing CD image directories with daily initrd build
directories. There's no sarge_d-i/sid_d-i distinction in the latter,
which is what Geert pointed to.

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Re: state of d-i sarge: broken

2004-07-03 Thread C. Gatzemeier

 Testing on real hardware would be better in such cases, but this
 requires far more time by burning CD images, for instance.and of
 course, this also requires hardware.

If it would be possible to provide daily PXE or Etherboot d-i images that 
might help. People could let their boot servers serve up those and quickly 
test most functionality on garden variety hardware.

Christian



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Re: state of d-i sarge: broken

2004-07-03 Thread Geert Stappers
On Sat, Jul 03, 2004 at 02:29:55PM +0200, C. Gatzemeier wrote:
 
  Testing on real hardware would be better in such cases, but this
  requires far more time by burning CD images, for instance.and of
  course, this also requires hardware.
 
 If it would be possible to provide daily PXE or Etherboot d-i images that 
 might help. People could let their boot servers serve up those and quickly 
 test most functionality on garden variety hardware.

A visit to http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ports-status
and some clicks got me to
 http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/images/daily/netboot/

Is that what you proposed?

 
 Christian


Cheers
Geert Stappers


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Re: state of d-i sarge: broken

2004-07-03 Thread Karl Hegbloom
On Fri, 2004-07-02 at 08:47 +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
 Testing on real hardware would be better in such cases, but this
 requires far more time by burning CD images, for instance.and of
 course, this also requires hardware.

Net-booting d-i works fairly well.

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Re: state of d-i sarge: broken

2004-07-03 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Karl Hegbloom ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

  Testing on real hardware would be better in such cases, but this
  requires far more time by burning CD images, for instance.and of
  course, this also requires hardware.
 
 Net-booting d-i works fairly well.

But also required some infrastructure...:-)



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Re: state of d-i sarge: broken

2004-07-02 Thread Christian Perrier
 I'm afraid that sid is diverging too far from sarge for it to be easy to
 keep maintaining sarge (we're at the point of needing relativly untested
 backports of some packages to be put into sarge to fix bugs), and that
 nobody is testing sarge's d-i, or paying much attention to it at all.

Well, my daily tests are done on sarge_d-i as well as sid_d-i
images. However, I can only do these in a VmWare environment with a
standard install path which is pretty limitating and may miss some
broken things.

But, such tests have revealed the debconf priority bug (and a few
other people have found it in the same time) so I think we have people
paying attention to sarge. Probably not enough because there are so
many possible cases(the 2.4/2.6 duality does not help in that matter).

Testing on real hardware would be better in such cases, but this
requires far more time by burning CD images, for instance.and of
course, this also requires hardware.

On my side, my testing and l10n activity will probably be more
irregular from now up to 4th week of August because of many days away
in July...and a full 2 1/2 week away in August.

Normal rhythm expected to come back on August 23rd.



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