Re: Root disk problems for i18n floppies
David Whedon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Too bad, but there isn't a good way around it. Has any thought gone into making > root.fr.bin, that is, a bunch of different root disks, or am I going crazy? In > principle they would be easy to make, unfortunately it would increase the size > of b-f binary uploads greatly. Yes, this is doable today. It's just too large to make part of the mainstream build process. This is what people are doing now I think. -- .Adam Di [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.onshored.com/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Root disk problems for i18n floppies
Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 12:50:51PM +0200 wrote: > On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 09:38:06PM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote: > > David Whedon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > One option is to make an optional i18n floppy and have a menu option: 'Load > > > Multiple Languages'. Then we mount the dist that contains the additional > > > messages and whatever else we need then install into the right locations. I > > > don't know much about gettext or whatever. In principle this sounds possible > > > but there may be issues I am unaware of. > > > > Or get it over the network... > > Obtaining messages at runtime from the outside would be a pain > both for us and the user, i think. It is extra work for us, and by the time they have the network up there isn't much else for them to do, the run debootstrap and then reboot, not a lot of interaction. > So let's just stay with the CD. Too bad, but there isn't a good way around it. Has any thought gone into making root.fr.bin, that is, a bunch of different root disks, or am I going crazy? In principle they would be easy to make, unfortunately it would increase the size of b-f binary uploads greatly. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Root disk problems for i18n floppies
On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 09:38:06PM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote: > David Whedon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > One option is to make an optional i18n floppy and have a menu option: 'Load > > Multiple Languages'. Then we mount the dist that contains the additional > > messages and whatever else we need then install into the right locations. I > > don't know much about gettext or whatever. In principle this sounds possible > > but there may be issues I am unaware of. > > Or get it over the network... Obtaining messages at runtime from the outside would be a pain both for us and the user, i think. So let's just stay with the CD. Marcin -- Marcin Owsiany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://student.uci.agh.edu.pl/~porridge/ GnuPG: 1024D/60F41216 FE67 DA2D 0ACA FC5E 3F75 D6F6 3A0D 8AA0 60F4 1216 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Root disk problems for i18n floppies
Marcin Owsiany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So what shall we do? Only support it for the 2.88 ones? If we have to... > Othewise we need to find a way to cut some 200 KB (100 + 40 for > chinese messages + who knows how much for locale definition). Oy. The size of the locale part needs to be established ASAP. Possibly hack it to get the messages file via http if possible (wget), or use english if not. That would be *something* anyway. Another possibility, which I like even worse, is to just supply the major euro lanugages, say: English French German Italian Spanish Then allow downloading of other messages catalogs... -- .Adam Di [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.onshored.com/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Root disk problems for i18n floppies
David Whedon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > One option is to make an optional i18n floppy and have a menu option: 'Load > Multiple Languages'. Then we mount the dist that contains the additional > messages and whatever else we need then install into the right locations. I > don't know much about gettext or whatever. In principle this sounds possible > but there may be issues I am unaware of. Or get it over the network... -- .Adam Di [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.onshored.com/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Root disk problems for i18n floppies
Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 12:32:08AM +0200 wrote: > On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 02:44:49PM -0700, David Whedon wrote: > > Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 02:40:24AM +0200 wrote: > > > > > > So what shall we do? Only support it for the 2.88 ones? > > That is what we use for CD install, right? > > Yes > > > I think having the language chooser only for CD installs > > (which most people use anyway) is ok. > [...] > > It would be difficult to free 200 KB. > > OK, so now I need to buy a CD-writer :-\ One option is to make an optional i18n floppy and have a menu option: 'Load Multiple Languages'. Then we mount the dist that contains the additional messages and whatever else we need then install into the right locations. I don't know much about gettext or whatever. In principle this sounds possible but there may be issues I am unaware of. -David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Root disk problems for i18n floppies
On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 02:44:49PM -0700, David Whedon wrote: > Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 02:40:24AM +0200 wrote: > > > > So what shall we do? Only support it for the 2.88 ones? > That is what we use for CD install, right? Yes > I think having the language chooser only for CD installs > (which most people use anyway) is ok. [...] > It would be difficult to free 200 KB. OK, so now I need to buy a CD-writer :-\ Marcin -- Marcin Owsiany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://student.uci.agh.edu.pl/~porridge/ GnuPG: 1024D/60F41216 FE67 DA2D 0ACA FC5E 3F75 D6F6 3A0D 8AA0 60F4 1216 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Root disk problems for i18n floppies
Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 02:40:24AM +0200 wrote: > What I feared came true. We exceeded the size of a 1.44MB floppy. > > -rw-r--r--1 root porridge 1169074 cze 9 01:53 root.bin > -rw-r--r--1 root porridge 1572787 cze 9 02:05 rootcompact.bin > > Here is the sorted list of gzip -9 compressed contents of the > > So what shall we do? Only support it for the 2.88 ones? That is what we use for CD install, right? I think having the language chooser only for CD installs (which most people use anyway) is ok. > Othewise we need to find a way to cut some 200 KB (100 + 40 for > chinese messages + who knows how much for locale definition). > It would be difficult to free 200 KB. It isn't clear to me that we could without a lot of work and/or removing entire features from b-f which I don't think we should do. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Root disk problems for i18n floppies
What I feared came true. We exceeded the size of a 1.44MB floppy. -rw-r--r--1 root porridge 1169074 cze 9 01:53 root.bin -rw-r--r--1 root porridge 1572787 cze 9 02:05 rootcompact.bin Here is the sorted list of gzip -9 compressed contents of the root disk. (And it doesn't include chineese messages, since I had problems with building them). The numbers are 1KB blocks. 269 tt/lib/libc-2.2.3.so.gz 88 tt/linuxrc.gz 67 tt/sbin/dbootstrap.gz 55 tt/lib/libm-2.2.3.so.gz 48 tt/usr/lib/debootstrap/devices.tar.gz 45 tt/bin/sh.gz 44 tt/sbin/fsck.ext2.gz 43 tt/sbin/rmmod.gz 42 tt/lib/ld-2.2.3.so.gz 41 tt/sbin/dhclient-2.2.x.gz 37 tt/lib/libslang.so.1.4.4.gz 35 tt/lib/libext2fs.so.2.4.gz 33 tt/sbin/fdisk.gz 28 tt/lib/libnewt.so.0.50.17.gz 27 tt/lib/libresolv.so.2.gz 26 tt/sbin/depmod.gz 25 tt/sbin/ifconfig.gz 24 tt/etc/messages.ru.gz 23 tt/etc/messages.de.gz 22 tt/etc/messages.fr.gz 22 tt/etc/messages.hu.gz 22 tt/etc/messages.ja.gz 22 tt/sbin/cfdisk.gz 22 tt/etc/messages.pl.gz 21 tt/etc/messages.fi.gz 21 tt/etc/messages.hr.gz 21 tt/etc/messages.it.gz 21 tt/etc/messages.sk.gz 21 tt/etc/messages.pt.gz 21 tt/etc/messages.tr.gz 21 tt/sbin/isapnp.gz 21 tt/etc/messages.cs.gz 21 tt/etc/messages.es.gz 20 tt/bin/edit.gz 20 tt/etc/messages.da.gz 20 tt/etc/messages.eo.gz 20 tt/etc/messages.gl.gz 20 tt/etc/messages.sv.gz 19 tt/sbin/route.gz 19 tt/etc/messages.en.gz 18 tt/usr/sbin/pnpdump.gz 18 tt/unifont-reduced.bgf.gz 16 tt/usr/bin/bterm.gz 12 tt/sbin/mkfs.ext2.gz 12 tt/sbin/mke2fs.gz 11 tt/lib/libpopt.so.0.0.0.gz 9 tt/sbin/MAKEDEV.gz 8 tt/etc/keymaps.tgz 7 tt/sbin/badblocks.gz 6 tt/lib/libe2p.so.2.3.gz 6 tt/lib/libnss_dns.so.2.gz 5 tt/lib/libuuid.so.1.gz 5 tt/lib/libdl-2.2.3.so.gz 4 tt/usr/sbin/rdev.gz 3 tt/lib/libcom_err.so.2.0.gz 3 tt/usr/lib/debootstrap/functions.gz 3 tt/usr/lib/debootstrap/pkgdetails.gz 2 tt/etc/dhclient-script.gz 2 tt/sbin/update-modules.gz 2 tt/usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/woody.gz 2 tt/usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/potato.gz 2 tt/etc/modules.conf.gz 2 tt/usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/slink.gz 1 tt/etc/fstab.gz 1 tt/etc/inittab.gz 1 tt/etc/inittab.install.gz 1 tt/etc/nsswitch.conf.gz 1 tt/etc/ld.so.conf.gz 1 tt/etc/init.d/rcS.gz 1 tt/etc/init.d/check_fb.sh.gz 1 tt/etc/protocols.gz 1 tt/etc/passwd.gz 1 tt/etc/group.gz 1 tt/sbin/udbootstrap.gz 1 tt/usr/bin/man.gz 1 tt/etc/profile.gz 1 tt/usr/lib/terminfo/a/ansi.gz 1 tt/usr/lib/terminfo/l/linux.gz 1 tt/usr/lib/debootstrap/arch.gz 1 tt/usr/sbin/debootstrap.gz 1 tt/usr/share/terminfo/b/bterm.gz 1 tt/var/state/pcmcia/scheme.gz 1 tt/etc/pump.conf.gz 1 tt/release_notes.cs.gz 1 tt/release_notes.de.gz 1 tt/release_notes.da.gz 1 tt/release_notes.eo.gz 1 tt/release_notes.es.gz 1 tt/release_notes.fi.gz 1 tt/release_notes.gl.gz 1 tt/release_notes.hr.gz 1 tt/release_notes.hu.gz 1 tt/release_notes.it.gz 1 tt/release_notes.ja.gz 1 tt/release_notes.pl.gz 1 tt/release_notes.ru.gz 1 tt/release_notes.sk.gz 1 tt/release_notes.sv.gz 1 tt/release_notes.tr.gz 1 tt/boot_message.gz 1 tt/type.txt.gz 1 tt/etc/ld.so.cache.gz 1 tt/release_notes.en.gz 1 tt/release_notes.fr.gz 1 tt/release_notes.pt.gz So what shall we do? Only support it for the 2.88 ones? Othewise we need to find a way to cut some 200 KB (100 + 40 for chinese messages + who knows how much for locale definition). Marcin PS: all this is i386 -- Marcin Owsiany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://student.uci.agh.edu.pl/~porridge/ GnuPG: 1024D/60F41216 FE67 DA2D 0ACA FC5E 3F75 D6F6 3A0D 8AA0 60F4 1216 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
