Re: Search for patched yaboot testers ...

2004-11-22 Thread Rick Thomas
On Nov 13, 2004, at 8:44 AM, Sven Luther wrote:
On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 04:54:46PM -0500, Rick Thomas wrote:
I got a chance to do an install from your mini.iso on a test machine.
It's a G4 350 MHz (AGP graphics).  I'm not clear as to whether this
will install your test yaboot or not, but here's what happened:
This will use my test yaboot for booting from the CD.
I booted off the CD and chose the default (i.e. non-expert) install at
the boot: prompt.  I answered all the i18n questions with the 
default
(US-English) and configured the network manually (no DHCP on this 
net).
I chose the debain.rutgers.edu mirror because it's located in the
next building over on the same campus and I have a 100-Mbit connection
via campus LAN to it from the test machine. (I'm used to doing 
installs
over a fairly fast cable-modem that gets about 4 Mbit/sec on a good
day.  This was *much* faster.  -8)  When it came time to partition 
the
disk, I chose a guided partitioning, and it set me up with a 1 MB
boot partition, a 4 GB root partition, and a 260 MB swap 
partition.

Then, for some reason I don't understand, it tried to install the
quik bootloader.  This is definitely a NewWorld machine, so it 
should
have known better -- I would think!  In any case, that got an error,
and it offered to let me install yaboot instead, which I did.
This is definitively a bug, could you fill a bug report about this ? i 
guess
quil-installer or debian-installer are the packages to report a bug 
against.
As I understand the discussion so far, this is just a bug in the 
mini.iso, and will not affect the netinst or businesscard .iso images.  
And nobody is interested in fixing the mini.iso problem, so there's no 
point in filing a bug report at this time.


When the first phase was over, and it came time for the reboot,
everything went completely as expected, and I finished the 
installation
after an uneventful reboot.  If this was using your new yaboot, then
I'd say the test was successful.
Well, to test booting from the disk, you need to install my yaboot 
.deb, run
ybin, and try rebooting.

If this sequence does *not* exercise your new yaboot, please give me
instructions for what to do next.  I'll be in Atlanta for the
USENIX/LISA conference all next week, so my next opportunity for
testing will be a week from now.
Ok.
So what I need now is a pointer to your patched yaboot .deb file.  Can 
you give me a URL or whatever it is I need?

Thanks,
Rick

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Re: Search for patched yaboot testers ...

2004-11-22 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 03:23:09PM -0500, Rick Thomas wrote:
 So what I need now is a pointer to your patched yaboot .deb file.  Can 
 you give me a URL or whatever it is I need?

http://people.debian.org/~luther/yaboot

the -1 one is just patched, while the -2 has full debug on too.

Notice that both Warren and Ethan seems to be ok, and there will be an upload
to unstable of this patched version soon.

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Re: Search for patched yaboot testers ...

2004-11-16 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 11:43:02PM -0500, Rick Thomas wrote:
 
 On Nov 15, 2004, at 12:41 PM, Sven Luther wrote:
 
 On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 12:29:09PM -0500, Rick Thomas wrote:
 I was going to wait until I could try it with a normal image.  I
 assume that this means I would not have encountered this problem then.
 
 So should I submit a bug report against monolithic, or is it a 
 known
 problem -- bug report would be redundant?
 
 monolithic is mostly there only for testing and development, so it 
 should not
 be important.
 
 Ethan just said he had only very few success reports, and would like 
 more
 testing, despite the tests i already got, and Leigh Brown haven tested 
 it
 successfully on his 7043-140 or whatever it was. Both HD and CD, since 
 NET is
 broken anyway on this one ?
 
 Colin, could i ask you to test the patch and write a it works report 
 to the
 bug report, and Rick, did you ever fill a followup to the bug report, 
 could
 you please do so, and any others that have tested it provide feedback 
 too ?
 
 I believe I did file a followup to the bug report.  If I didn't, I will 
 as soon as I get a chance to try installing your patched yaboot .deb 
 and run ybin -- next week when I have access to the hardware again 
 (I'll be in Atlanta until Sunday evening.  Monday will be my first day 
 at work -- where the test machine is located.)
 
 Sorry I can't be quicker about this.  Life keeps getting in the way!

Ok, no problem.

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Re: Search for patched yaboot testers ...

2004-11-15 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Nov 13, 2004 at 02:44:59PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
 On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 04:54:46PM -0500, Rick Thomas wrote:
  Then, for some reason I don't understand, it tried to install the 
  quik bootloader.  This is definitely a NewWorld machine, so it should 
  have known better -- I would think!  In any case, that got an error, 
  and it offered to let me install yaboot instead, which I did.
 
 This is definitively a bug, could you fill a bug report about this ? i guess
 quil-installer or debian-installer are the packages to report a bug against.

monolithic is like that; it includes both quik-installer and
yaboot-installer, bypassing the XB-Subarchitecture: control field
checks. It's not a problem for normal images.

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Re: Search for patched yaboot testers ...

2004-11-15 Thread Rick Thomas
I was going to wait until I could try it with a normal image.  I 
assume that this means I would not have encountered this problem then.

So should I submit a bug report against monolithic, or is it a known 
problem -- bug report would be redundant?

Rick
On Nov 15, 2004, at 11:17 AM, Colin Watson wrote:
On Sat, Nov 13, 2004 at 02:44:59PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 04:54:46PM -0500, Rick Thomas wrote:
Then, for some reason I don't understand, it tried to install the
quik bootloader.  This is definitely a NewWorld machine, so it 
should
have known better -- I would think!  In any case, that got an error,
and it offered to let me install yaboot instead, which I did.
This is definitively a bug, could you fill a bug report about this ? 
i guess
quil-installer or debian-installer are the packages to report a bug 
against.
monolithic is like that; it includes both quik-installer and
yaboot-installer, bypassing the XB-Subarchitecture: control field
checks. It's not a problem for normal images.
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Re: Search for patched yaboot testers ...

2004-11-15 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 12:29:09PM -0500, Rick Thomas wrote:
 I was going to wait until I could try it with a normal image.  I 
 assume that this means I would not have encountered this problem then.

Indeed.

 So should I submit a bug report against monolithic, or is it a known 
 problem -- bug report would be redundant?

You could file a bug report against quik-installer,yaboot-installer
asking them to duplicate the subarchitecture checks in .isinstallable
control files, I guess.

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Re: Search for patched yaboot testers ...

2004-11-15 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 12:29:09PM -0500, Rick Thomas wrote:
 I was going to wait until I could try it with a normal image.  I 
 assume that this means I would not have encountered this problem then.
 
 So should I submit a bug report against monolithic, or is it a known 
 problem -- bug report would be redundant?

monolithic is mostly there only for testing and development, so it should not
be important.

Ethan just said he had only very few success reports, and would like more
testing, despite the tests i already got, and Leigh Brown haven tested it
successfully on his 7043-140 or whatever it was. Both HD and CD, since NET is
broken anyway on this one ? 

Colin, could i ask you to test the patch and write a it works report to the
bug report, and Rick, did you ever fill a followup to the bug report, could
you please do so, and any others that have tested it provide feedback too ? 

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Re: Search for patched yaboot testers ...

2004-11-15 Thread Rick Thomas
On Nov 15, 2004, at 12:41 PM, Sven Luther wrote:
On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 12:29:09PM -0500, Rick Thomas wrote:
I was going to wait until I could try it with a normal image.  I
assume that this means I would not have encountered this problem then.
So should I submit a bug report against monolithic, or is it a 
known
problem -- bug report would be redundant?
monolithic is mostly there only for testing and development, so it 
should not
be important.

Ethan just said he had only very few success reports, and would like 
more
testing, despite the tests i already got, and Leigh Brown haven tested 
it
successfully on his 7043-140 or whatever it was. Both HD and CD, since 
NET is
broken anyway on this one ?

Colin, could i ask you to test the patch and write a it works report 
to the
bug report, and Rick, did you ever fill a followup to the bug report, 
could
you please do so, and any others that have tested it provide feedback 
too ?
I believe I did file a followup to the bug report.  If I didn't, I will 
as soon as I get a chance to try installing your patched yaboot .deb 
and run ybin -- next week when I have access to the hardware again 
(I'll be in Atlanta until Sunday evening.  Monday will be my first day 
at work -- where the test machine is located.)

Sorry I can't be quicker about this.  Life keeps getting in the way!
Enjoy!
Rick
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Re: Search for patched yaboot testers ...

2004-11-13 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 04:54:46PM -0500, Rick Thomas wrote:
 
 On Nov 10, 2004, at 6:01 AM, Sven Luther wrote:
 
 On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 03:46:58AM -0500, Rick Thomas wrote:
 The new yaboot seems to work at least on one of my machines.  I'll
 try some others later.
 
 Specifically, I tried it on my BlueWhite G3.  I booted holding
 down the C key (ADB keyboard) and got the yaboot messages.  At
 the boot: prompt, I typed expert video=ofonly and it did the
 expected things.  In fact everything proceeded as expected til I
 
 Ok, thanks, can you forward info about this to the bug report ? It is :
 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 got to the partitioner, which hung up trying to look at the
 partitions on the disk on my SIIG Ultra ATA 133/100 Pro IDE
 controller PCI card.  The dmesg command on the F2 console
 showed a bunch of messages
 
 hdg: dma_timeout_expiry: dma status == 0x24
 AEC62XX timeout 4hdg: lost interrupt
 
 I've seen this before with 2.6 kernels.  I've reported it to the
 list in installation reports, but nobody seems to care.
 
 Can you fill a bug report about this against the powerpc
 kernel-image-2.6.8-powerpc ? It seems to be a powerpc kernel problem.
 
 So I was unable to proceed any further on that machine.
 
 ... later ...
 
 I also tried it on my grey G4 minitower 733MHz.  Worked fine up to
 partitioning disks.  This is a production machine with no free disk
 partitions, so I couldn't proceed any further than that.  I've got
 a G4 450MHz at work with some free partitions, so I'll try a full
 install there tomorrow.
 
 You tried only CD booting method, not net or disk, right ?
 
 What was the bug number of the bug report you wanted me to reply to
 for the new yaboot?
 
 See above.
 
 
 I got a chance to do an install from your mini.iso on a test machine.  
 It's a G4 350 MHz (AGP graphics).  I'm not clear as to whether this 
 will install your test yaboot or not, but here's what happened:

This will use my test yaboot for booting from the CD.

 I booted off the CD and chose the default (i.e. non-expert) install at 
 the boot: prompt.  I answered all the i18n questions with the default 
 (US-English) and configured the network manually (no DHCP on this net). 
 I chose the debain.rutgers.edu mirror because it's located in the 
 next building over on the same campus and I have a 100-Mbit connection 
 via campus LAN to it from the test machine. (I'm used to doing installs 
 over a fairly fast cable-modem that gets about 4 Mbit/sec on a good 
 day.  This was *much* faster.  -8)  When it came time to partition the 
 disk, I chose a guided partitioning, and it set me up with a 1 MB 
 boot partition, a 4 GB root partition, and a 260 MB swap partition.
 
 Then, for some reason I don't understand, it tried to install the 
 quik bootloader.  This is definitely a NewWorld machine, so it should 
 have known better -- I would think!  In any case, that got an error, 
 and it offered to let me install yaboot instead, which I did.

This is definitively a bug, could you fill a bug report about this ? i guess
quil-installer or debian-installer are the packages to report a bug against.

 When the first phase was over, and it came time for the reboot, 
 everything went completely as expected, and I finished the installation 
 after an uneventful reboot.  If this was using your new yaboot, then 
 I'd say the test was successful.

Well, to test booting from the disk, you need to install my yaboot .deb, run
ybin, and try rebooting.

 If this sequence does *not* exercise your new yaboot, please give me 
 instructions for what to do next.  I'll be in Atlanta for the 
 USENIX/LISA conference all next week, so my next opportunity for 
 testing will be a week from now.

Ok.

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Re: Search for patched yaboot testers ...

2004-11-12 Thread Rick Thomas
On Nov 10, 2004, at 6:01 AM, Sven Luther wrote:
On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 03:46:58AM -0500, Rick Thomas wrote:
The new yaboot seems to work at least on one of my machines.  I'll
try some others later.
Specifically, I tried it on my BlueWhite G3.  I booted holding
down the C key (ADB keyboard) and got the yaboot messages.  At
the boot: prompt, I typed expert video=ofonly and it did the
expected things.  In fact everything proceeded as expected til I
Ok, thanks, can you forward info about this to the bug report ? It is :
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
got to the partitioner, which hung up trying to look at the
partitions on the disk on my SIIG Ultra ATA 133/100 Pro IDE
controller PCI card.  The dmesg command on the F2 console
showed a bunch of messages
hdg: dma_timeout_expiry: dma status == 0x24
AEC62XX timeout 4hdg: lost interrupt
I've seen this before with 2.6 kernels.  I've reported it to the
list in installation reports, but nobody seems to care.
Can you fill a bug report about this against the powerpc
kernel-image-2.6.8-powerpc ? It seems to be a powerpc kernel problem.
So I was unable to proceed any further on that machine.
... later ...
I also tried it on my grey G4 minitower 733MHz.  Worked fine up to
partitioning disks.  This is a production machine with no free disk
partitions, so I couldn't proceed any further than that.  I've got
a G4 450MHz at work with some free partitions, so I'll try a full
install there tomorrow.
You tried only CD booting method, not net or disk, right ?
What was the bug number of the bug report you wanted me to reply to
for the new yaboot?
See above.

I got a chance to do an install from your mini.iso on a test machine.  
It's a G4 350 MHz (AGP graphics).  I'm not clear as to whether this 
will install your test yaboot or not, but here's what happened:

I booted off the CD and chose the default (i.e. non-expert) install at 
the boot: prompt.  I answered all the i18n questions with the default 
(US-English) and configured the network manually (no DHCP on this net). 
I chose the debain.rutgers.edu mirror because it's located in the 
next building over on the same campus and I have a 100-Mbit connection 
via campus LAN to it from the test machine. (I'm used to doing installs 
over a fairly fast cable-modem that gets about 4 Mbit/sec on a good 
day.  This was *much* faster.  -8)  When it came time to partition the 
disk, I chose a guided partitioning, and it set me up with a 1 MB 
boot partition, a 4 GB root partition, and a 260 MB swap partition.

Then, for some reason I don't understand, it tried to install the 
quik bootloader.  This is definitely a NewWorld machine, so it should 
have known better -- I would think!  In any case, that got an error, 
and it offered to let me install yaboot instead, which I did.

When the first phase was over, and it came time for the reboot, 
everything went completely as expected, and I finished the installation 
after an uneventful reboot.  If this was using your new yaboot, then 
I'd say the test was successful.

If this sequence does *not* exercise your new yaboot, please give me 
instructions for what to do next.  I'll be in Atlanta for the 
USENIX/LISA conference all next week, so my next opportunity for 
testing will be a week from now.

Enjoy!
Rick
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