Re: bootfloppies on DECstation 5000/125

2002-03-06 Thread Karsten Merker

On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 06:16:24PM +0100, Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote:

[boot-floppies showing crashes on MIPS R3000-based machines]
 It *will* fail. R3k needs a little patch to
 ./include/asm-mips/pgtable.h to successfully handle swap access.
 Otherwise, the kernel will Oops in seconds:-(

I have built current CVS boot-floppies with a current Linux/MIPS CVS
kernel (including Ralf's R3k-cache handling changes and Maciej's version 
of the pagetable-patch). Could you please test it on your R3k-based 
machines?

The build is available at

ftp://bolugftp.uni-bonn.de/pub/mipsel-linux/woody-bootfloppies/bf-pre3.0.21cvs20020306[.packed]/

Regards,
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Re: bootfloppies on DECstation 5000/125

2002-02-22 Thread Florian Lohoff

On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 06:29:01PM +0100, Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote:
 Another question: install-info (or Perl?) is still broken. Any hints
 on debugging this?
 

update-menus is broken - c++ exeption handling. We had a perl bug once
which seemed to be R4600 based - It seemed to have disappeared.

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Re: bootfloppies on DECstation 5000/125

2002-02-22 Thread Jan-Benedict Glaw

On Fri, 2002-02-22 17:37:56 +0100, Karsten Merker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 05:43:48PM +0100, Karsten Merker wrote:
  On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 03:46:57PM +0100, Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote:
   Well, I've now compiled my own kernel (linux_2_4) with the toolchain I
   found on oss.sgi.com. It's quite _a lot_ more stable now. Maybe the
   boot-floppy guys would like to use a different kernel for boot-up?
  
  I have looked through the Linux/MIPS cvs logs - Ralf has done
  modifications to the R3k cache handling a few days ago. I am 
  currently building a current cvs kernel and will build new 
  boot-floppies with it.
 
 A recompile of 3.0.19 with a current Linux/MIPS cvs snapshot is available
 for testing at
 
ftp://bolugftp.uni-bonn.de/pub/mipsel-linux/woody-bootfloppies/bf-3.0.19-recompile-unofficial
 This is mostly untested due to time constraints on my part (I have only
 booted it and tried whether the menu works on a 5000/150). Could you try
 it on your R3k machines?

It *will* fail. R3k needs a little patch to
./include/asm-mips/pgtable.h to successfully handle swap access.
Otherwise, the kernel will Oops in seconds:-(

MfG, JBG

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Re: bootfloppies on DECstation 5000/125

2002-02-21 Thread Jan-Benedict Glaw

On Wed, 2002-02-20 15:16:53 +0100, Jan-Benedict Glaw [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Tue, 2002-02-19 19:58:56 +0100, Karsten Merker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 06:21:59PM +0100, Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote:
   I've just tested the boot floppies. System is a DS 5000/125
   with serial keyboard LK401AA attached, 16MB RAM.
   
   1. Booting via graphical console (PMAGB-B) results in an Oops
   in default_be_board_handler().
   2. Booting via serial line, I get as far as formatting the
   freshly partitioned 3.1GB HDD:
  [SNIP]
   Writing inode tables:  1/22
   Could not write 8 blocks in inode table starting at 33212: Attempt to
   write bloc k from filesystem resulted in short write
   --
   
   The system freezes here, without an Oops:-(
  
  Looks like the kernel has a general problem on R3000-based machines.
  Unfortunately I do not own a working and supported R3k box, so I can

Well, I've now compiled my own kernel (linux_2_4) with the toolchain I
found on oss.sgi.com. It's quite _a lot_ more stable now. Maybe the
boot-floppy guys would like to use a different kernel for boot-up?

MfG, JBG

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Re: bootfloppies on DECstation 5000/125

2002-02-20 Thread Jan-Benedict Glaw

On Tue, 2002-02-19 19:58:56 +0100, Karsten Merker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 06:21:59PM +0100, Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote:
  I've just tested the boot floppies. System is a DS 5000/125
  with serial keyboard LK401AA attached, 16MB RAM.
  
  1. Booting via graphical console (PMAGB-B) results in an Oops
  in default_be_board_handler().
  2. Booting via serial line, I get as far as formatting the
  freshly partitioned 3.1GB HDD:
 [SNIP]
  Writing inode tables:  1/22
  Could not write 8 blocks in inode table starting at 33212: Attempt to
  write bloc k from filesystem resulted in short write
  --
  
  The system freezes here, without an Oops:-(
 
 Looks like the kernel has a general problem on R3000-based machines.
 Unfortunately I do not own a working and supported R3k box, so I can

Well... I'm possibly a step forward. When my machine freezed during
mkfs, I got this message:

tcsetpgrp failed, errno=9

I'm now grepping through sources, but it would be nice if anybody
could give me some hint...

MfG, JBG

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Re: bootfloppies on DECstation 5000/125

2002-02-20 Thread Florian Lohoff

On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 03:16:53PM +0100, Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote:
 
 tcsetpgrp failed, errno=9
 

Hmmm - terminal/console stuff

man tcsetpgrp

How does the box die - Does it still receive interrupts ? Ethernet/ping ?

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Re: bootfloppies on DECstation 5000/125

2002-02-20 Thread Jan-Benedict Glaw

On Wed, 2002-02-20 18:24:49 +0100, Florian Lohoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 03:16:53PM +0100, Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote:
  
  tcsetpgrp failed, errno=9
 
 Hmmm - terminal/console stuff
 
 man tcsetpgrp

Well, I know this - but who _uses_ this?

 How does the box die - Does it still receive interrupts ? Ethernet/ping ?

I think it would. However, I've build a small nfsroot environment
and currently, I'm bootstrapping an on-disk-system (dpkg-deb -X,
then reboot, then normal install...)

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Re: bootfloppies on DECstation 5000/125

2002-02-20 Thread Florian Lohoff

On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 07:29:41PM +0100, Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote:
  man tcsetpgrp
 
 Well, I know this - but who _uses_ this?

I guess ncurses, glibc, busybox, getty, login, bash, ssh, telnet,
telnetd.

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bootfloppies on DECstation 5000/125

2002-02-19 Thread Jan-Benedict Glaw

Hi!

I've just tested the boot floppies. System is a DS 5000/125
with serial keyboard LK401AA attached, 16MB RAM.

1. Booting via graphical console (PMAGB-B) results in an Oops
in default_be_board_handler().

2. Booting via serial line, I get as far as formatting the
freshly partitioned 3.1GB HDD:
--
Creating Ext2 filesystem (for 2.2 and newer kernels only)...
mke2fs 1.25 (20-Sep-2001)
Filesystem label=
OS type: Linux
Block size=4096 (log=2)
Fragment size=4096 (log=2)
354112 inodes, 708171 blocks
35408 blocks (5.00%) reserved for the super user
First data block=0
22 block groups
32768 blocks per group, 32768 fragments per group
16096 inodes per group
Superblock backups stored on blocks: 
32768, 98304, 163840, 229376, 294912

Writing inode tables:  1/22
Could not write 8 blocks in inode table starting at 33212: Attempt to
write bloc k from filesystem resulted in short write
--

The system freezes here, without an Oops:-(

MfG, JBG

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Re: bootfloppies on DECstation 5000/125

2002-02-19 Thread Martin Michlmayr

* Karsten Merker [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20020219 19:58]:
 Martin, what is your experience with your 5000/125 after we got
 your problem with the cursor keys resolved?

Unlike Jan-Benedict, I have been able to format my root partition
(500 MB) without any problems.  My overall experience wasn't much
better, though.  I've never been able to complete debootstrap.
I ran it by hand and there are quite reproducible seg faults when
installing packages (the gzip -c process dies, I don't have the
exact message here).  Also, I see random freezes.  However, I'm not
sure this is the kernel or my hardware. (I think the NetBSD on my
machine freezes too from time to time, so I suspect the hardware.
However, I cannot tell for sure since I'm not using the machine
much.)

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Re: bootfloppies on DECstation 5000/125

2002-02-19 Thread Jan-Benedict Glaw

On Tue, 2002-02-19 19:58:56 +0100, Karsten Merker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 06:21:59PM +0100, Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote:
[Freeze during HDD I/O]

  The system freezes here, without an Oops:-(
 
 Looks like the kernel has a general problem on R3000-based machines.
 Unfortunately I do not own a working and supported R3k box, so I can
 only do the tests on my 5000/150 (which is exactly the same machine
 as the 5000/125, just with an R4000 CPU board instead of the R3000
 board in the 5000/125). 

Hmmm... Is there any real way to debug this? Well, I've got one
more info on this: the reset switch on the machine's back is
still (or again?) functional.

From my experience, this is not always the case. When does it
keep functional, when doesn't it? That would maybe help in nailing
the bug down... I'm so far clueless...

MfG, JBG

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Re: bootfloppies on DECstation 5000/125

2002-02-19 Thread Jan-Benedict Glaw

On Tue, 2002-02-19 20:17:15 +0100, Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 * Karsten Merker [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20020219 19:58]:
  Martin, what is your experience with your 5000/125 after we got
  your problem with the cursor keys resolved?
 
 exact message here).  Also, I see random freezes.  However, I'm not

Any way to track this down? I'm to take this machine (for reference)
to an install fest these days, so it would be nice to have it somewhat
up'n'running:-)

MfG, JBG

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