Re: d-i via floppy/usb/netinst.iso, cleaned up version

2004-01-04 Thread Gerhard Kroder
Joey Hess wrote:

Gerhard Kroder wrote:
 


So, reading from usb is not the issue?
   

Sure sounds like it's not. 

is it worth tracking meanwhile obsoleted images? or should i better get
new/current images?
Perhaps it is using the wrong usb driver, or
wrongly configuring it. Could you look at the boot messages before it
asks you to hit enter, and compare them to the boot messages on the
working system? In particular the ones about usb-ohci or usb-uhci, and
anything else usb releasted.
 

do you know any other way than typing it manually from screen? things like 
console/serial log/copy at this stage? some lot work...

ok, so bootfloppy says to usb related things (and some others of some
importance, imho): [i replaced some unimportant message parts with "[..]","..." 
and the like, and added some comments, you'll recognice easily. Output now 
nearly as it shows up on console:

--->start console message<---
Mounted devfs on /dev [..]
mount: Mounting devfs on /dev failed:
Device or ressource busy [..]
Using /lib/.usbcore
usb.c: registered usbdevfs
...registered hub
Using .usb-ohci.o
us-ohci: USB OHCI at membase 0xcc83d000, IRQ10 .usb-00:14.0, ALi
Corp USB 1.1 Controller
usb.c:...new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
USB hub found 2 ports detected
Using /lib/..2.4.22-1-386../input.o
Using /lib//usbkbd.o
usb.c: registered new driver usbkbd
usbkbd.c: USB HID Boot Protocol keyboard driver
Using /lib/...keybdev.o
Using /lib/...usbserial.o
usb.c: registered new driver serial
usbserial.c: . registered for Generic
.. Driver core 1.4
[..]
SCSI subsystem driver Revision: 1.00
Initializing USB Mass Storage driver
usb.c: registered new driver
usb-storage USB Mass Storage support registered
Insert the root floppy or plug in a USB storage device. Press Enter when ready, 
or type a
command:
--->end console message<---

now i plug in usb device:

--->start console message<---
new USB device 00:14.0-1, assingned address 2
...SCSI emulation...
...
unable to read partition table
--->end console message<---
so now i hit Enter as requested, d-i starts reading from usb with
already posted result.
ok, now what knoppix 3.3 cd (as reference system) tells about usb:

--->start console message<---
[..]
...usbdevfs
...hub
[..]
usb-uhci.c: $Revision: 1.275 $
usb-uhci.c: High bandwith mode enabled
usb-uhci.c: v1.275: Universal Host Controller Interface driver
usb-ohci.c: USB OHCI at membase 0xccaa4000, IRQ 10
usb-ohci.c: usb-00:14.o, ALi Corp USB 1.1 Controller
usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
usb.c: USB hub found
hub.c: 2 ports detected
--->end console message<---
thisone may come from knoppix autodect, as there is no usb device plugged in yet:

--->start console message<---
usbdevfs: remount parameter error
--->end console message<---
now plugging usb device dmesg says:

--->start console message<---
usb.c: new USB device 00:14.0-1, assigned address 2
usb.c: USB device 2 (vend/prod 0xea0/0x6803) is not claimed by any other driver
Initializing USB Mass Storage driver
usb.c: registereed new driver
usb-storage...
... SCSI emulation...
[..]
[..]
unable to read partition table
USB Mass storage foung at 2 USB
Mass storage registered.
[..]
--->end console message<---
so, to me it looks quite the same. forgive me not testing my second pc
on that, but that's the one im writing now this mail...
my native debian system on this laptop instead of knoppix tells me about
usb-ohci membase/IRQ assignment too, thoug it later also has msg on uhci
High bandwith mode. plugging device gives same usb device path/address
and scsi emulatin message as above.
i'll try to dd hdimage t a partition instead of whole device to see, if
some errors are solved then. and i'll go get more recent images of
floppy/netinst, if you don't mind. reports later.
btw: any idea on #225654 yet?

gerhard





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sorry for bad format.: (d-i via floppy/usb/netinst.iso)

2004-01-03 Thread Gerhard Kroder
dunno what mozilla did with kernel messages, i typed them in fine... if 
u can't read it, i'll fix, just tell me.

gerhard



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Re: d-i via floppy/usb/netinst.iso

2004-01-03 Thread Gerhard Kroder
Joey Hess wrote:

Gerhard Kroder wrote:
 


So, reading from usb is not the issue?
   

Sure sounds like it's not. 

is it worth tracking meanwhile obsoleted images? or should i better get 
new/current images?

Perhaps it is using the wrong usb driver, or
wrongly configuring it. Could you look at the boot messages before it
asks you to hit enter, and compare them to the boot messages on the
working system? In particular the ones about usb-ohci or usb-uhci, and
anything else usb releasted.
 

ok, so bootfloppy says to usb related things (and some others of some 
importance, imho):

Mounted devfs on /dev [..] mount: Mounting devfs on /dev failed: 
Device or ressource busy [..] Using /lib/.usbcore usb.c: 
registered usbdevfs ...registered hub Using .usb-ohci.o 
us-ohci: USB OHCI at membase 0xcc83d000, IRQ10 .usb-00:14.0, ALi 
Corp USB 1.1 Controller usb.c:...new USB bus registered, assigned bus 
number 1 USB hub found 2 ports detected Using 
/lib/..2.4.22-1-386../input.o Using /lib//usbkbd.o usb.c: 
registered new driver usbkbd usbkbd.c: USB HID Boot PRotocol keyboard 
driver Using /lib/...keybdev.o Using /lib/...usbserial.o usb.c: 
registered new driver serial usbserial.c: . registered for Generic 
.. Driver core 1.4 [..] SCSI subsystem driver REvision: 1.00 
Initializing USB Mass Storage driver usb.c: registered new driver 
usb-storage USB Mass Storage support registered Insert the root floppy 
or plug in a USB storage device. Press Enter when ready, or type a 
command: 


now i plug in usb device:

new USB device 00:14.0-1, assingned address 2 ...SCSI emulation... 
... unable to read 
partition table 
so now i hit Enter as requested, d-i starts reading from usb with 
already posted result.

ok, now what knoppix 3.3 cd (as reference system) tells about usb:

[..] ...usbdevfs ...hub: [..] usb-uhci.c: $Revision: 1.275 $ 
usb-uhci.c: High bandwith mode enabled usb-uhci.c: v1.275: Universal 
Host Controller Interface driver usb-ohci.c: USB OHCI at membase 
0xccaa4000, IRQ 10 usb-ohci.c: usb-00:14.o, ALi Corp USB 1.1 
Controller usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1 usb.c: 
USB hub found hub.c: 2 ports detected 


thisone may come from knoppix autodect:

> usbdevfs: remount parameter error


now plugging usb device dmesg says:

usb.c: new USB device 00:14.0-1, assigned address 2 usb.c: USB device 
2 (vend/prod 0xea0/0x6803) is not claimed by any other driver 
Initializing USB Mass Storage driver usb.c: registereed new driver 
usb-storage ... SCSI emulation... [..] ... unable to read partition table USB Mass storage foung at 2 USB 
Mass storage registered. [..] 


so, to me it looks quite the same. forgive me not testing my second pc 
on that, but that's the one im writing now this mail...

my native debian system on this laptop instead of knoppix tells me about 
usb-ohci membase/IRQ assignment too, thoug it later also has msg on uhci 
High bandwith mode. plugging device gives same usb device path/address 
and scsi emulatin message as above.

i'll try to dd hdimage t a partition instead of whole device to see, if 
some errors are solved then. and i'll go get more recent images of 
floppy/netinst, if you don't mind. reports later.

btw: any idea on #225654 yet?

gerhard



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Re: d-i via floppy/usb/netinst.iso

2004-01-01 Thread Joey Hess
Gerhard Kroder wrote:
> In general my usb device has a light blinking when data is transfere 
> from or to it. But it only blinks a little at beginnig of usb access, 
> during "dotting" it  doesn't. More, when disconnecting it, though i get 
> a "USB disconnect" message dots still apperar as before (currently i see 
> 10 lines, each 80 char), still running (disconnected).
> 
> ... ok, just verified, light is only on on lager data transfers.

Right, I have the same thing, I expect some buffering is involved.

> catting initrd doesn't blink at all, but wait... netinst.iso ought to be 
> around 120 mb, so 0.6s real  time is quite fast to read (usb1.1), isn't it?
> 
> So, reading from usb is not the issue?

Sure sounds like it's not. Perhaps it is using the wrong usb driver, or
wrongly configuring it. Could you look at the boot messages before it
asks you to hit enter, and compare them to the boot messages on the
working system? In particular the ones about usb-ohci or usb-uhci, and
anything else usb releasted.

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Re: d-i via floppy/usb/netinst.iso

2004-01-01 Thread Gerhard Kroder
Joey Hess wrote:

Gerhard Kroder wrote:
 


Now pressing "Enter" as requested reads data from usb (controll light
flickers), saying:
"System: debian-installer"
Label: bootable drive
Date: 20031226
Loading"
That's all, this dots keep on filling up the screen, aprox. one per
second. I had this run for more than an hour, and i don't belive this is
correct. Even if it would unpack the iso in it and install whole base
system
Tried that with same results on 2 old systems (workstation with
p450/192mb and laptop with cel400/192mb). A third system (xp2600) faild
accessing usb (filed a bug report on that).
So, what is wrong here? how to go on?
   

The weird thing about this is it should only print one dot each second
that some data was retreived from the usb device. If the usb device were
stalling, there should be no dots; so it must be getting _some_ data
from the device.
In general my usb device has a light blinking when data is transfere 
from or to it. But it only blinks a little at beginnig of usb access, 
during "dotting" it  doesn't. More, when disconnecting it, though i get 
a "USB disconnect" message dots still apperar as before (currently i see 
10 lines, each 80 char), still running (disconnected).

... ok, just verified, light is only on on lager data transfers.

You might want to either install linux by some other means on one of the
machines, or try the usb device on some other machine running linux, and
see if there are general problems reading a lot of data off of it at
once. Just catting the initrd from the disk to /dev/null would be a good
test.
some speeds:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# time cat /mnt/stick/netinst.iso >/dev/null 

real0m0.610s

user0m0.000s

sys 0m0.500s

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# time cat /mnt/stick/initrd.gz >/dev/null 

real0m0.005s

user0m0.000s

sys 0m0.010s

catting initrd doesn't blink at all, but wait... netinst.iso ought to be 
around 120 mb, so 0.6s real  time is quite fast to read (usb1.1), isn't it?

So, reading from usb is not the issue?

Gerhard

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Re: d-i via floppy/usb/netinst.iso

2004-01-01 Thread Joey Hess
Gerhard Kroder wrote:
> I'm having trouble running d-i with netinst.img via usb stick.
> tried to boot hd-media-image with  full sarge-i386-netinst.iso. things
> run untill loading d-i, then i only get dots, filling up some pages in
> more than an hour. this is faar too long to start d-i, isn't it? need
> some help here.

I generally see about 2 seconds to load, and I have usb 1.1.

> some more details:
> 
> booting bootfloppy: kernel, initrd. ok
> 
> "plug in USB storage device"... is already inserted at bootime. now
> kernel messages show up about recognized USB device as sda, but:
> "Partition check:
> /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/:<3>ldm_parse_privhead(): Cannot find
> PRIVHEAD structure. LDM database is corrupt. Aborting.
> ldm_validate_privheads(): Cannot find PRIVHEAD 1.
> unable to read partition table"

This is "normal". I see it here too and it does not break anything.

> This might be(?), cause i wrote hd-media-image to the whole device, not
> a partition (dd of=/dev/sda instead of /dev/sda1). When mounting this
> manually, i also need to mount /dev/sda instead of sda1.

That's correct.

> Now pressing "Enter" as requested reads data from usb (controll light
> flickers), saying:
> "System: debian-installer"
> Label: bootable drive
> Date: 20031226
> Loading"
> 
> That's all, this dots keep on filling up the screen, aprox. one per
> second. I had this run for more than an hour, and i don't belive this is
> correct. Even if it would unpack the iso in it and install whole base
> system
> 
> Tried that with same results on 2 old systems (workstation with
> p450/192mb and laptop with cel400/192mb). A third system (xp2600) faild
> accessing usb (filed a bug report on that).
> 
> So, what is wrong here? how to go on?

The weird thing about this is it should only print one dot each second
that some data was retreived from the usb device. If the usb device were
stalling, there should be no dots; so it must be getting _some_ data
from the device. But it only needs to load about 5 mb. You could let it
run overnight, even at only 1k a second, it should only need 1.5 hours
to load the whole thing..

You might want to either install linux by some other means on one of the
machines, or try the usb device on some other machine running linux, and
see if there are general problems reading a lot of data off of it at
once. Just catting the initrd from the disk to /dev/null would be a good
test.

-- 
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d-i via floppy/usb/netinst.iso

2004-01-01 Thread Gerhard Kroder
hi all,

I'm having trouble running d-i with netinst.img via usb stick.
tried to boot hd-media-image with  full sarge-i386-netinst.iso. things
run untill loading d-i, then i only get dots, filling up some pages in
more than an hour. this is faar too long to start d-i, isn't it? need
some help here.
some more details:

booting bootfloppy: kernel, initrd. ok

"plug in USB storage device"... is already inserted at bootime. now
kernel messages show up about recognized USB device as sda, but:
"Partition check:
/dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/:<3>ldm_parse_privhead(): Cannot find
PRIVHEAD structure. LDM database is corrupt. Aborting.
ldm_validate_privheads(): Cannot find PRIVHEAD 1.
unable to read partition table"
This might be(?), cause i wrote hd-media-image to the whole device, not
a partition (dd of=/dev/sda instead of /dev/sda1). When mounting this
manually, i also need to mount /dev/sda instead of sda1.
Now pressing "Enter" as requested reads data from usb (controll light
flickers), saying:
"System: debian-installer"
Label: bootable drive
Date: 20031226
Loading"
That's all, this dots keep on filling up the screen, aprox. one per
second. I had this run for more than an hour, and i don't belive this is
correct. Even if it would unpack the iso in it and install whole base
system
Tried that with same results on 2 old systems (workstation with
p450/192mb and laptop with cel400/192mb). A third system (xp2600) faild
accessing usb (filed a bug report on that).
So, what is wrong here? how to go on?

Gerhard



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