Re: debian-7.1.0-i386-netinst included installer can not detect network hardware
On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 11:41:09PM +0200, Mgr. Janusz Chmiel wrote: Dear core developers, I would like to express my deepest possible endorsement related to Yours voluntary complex programmers work. I Am very empathic human being and i know, how much time and how much intelectual work was been given to The Debian installer development. I like Debian distribution very, very much. The founder of The Debian have loven his woman so much, deep and strong, that The name of The distribution is containing The Deb characters. Because The name of The girlfriend of The Debian founder was Debra. I like The philosophy of Thee whole project. I like The freedom and constructive developers discussions on The various mailing lists related to The Debian operating system development. I have very big constructive plea to You, like a team of experienced developers. I Am helpless to install Debian Squeeze by using official provided installers. I have tried The .iso images from The following direct links. http://caesar.acc.umu.se/debian-cd/7.1.0/i386/iso-cd/debian-7.1.0-i386-netinst.iso http://napoleon.acc.umu.se/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/7.1.0/i386/iso-cd/firmware-7.1.0-i386-netinst.iso That image appears to contain the firmware for both the intel 2200BG and 2915AG. Installer is having The issues with my network integrated vireless chip, Intel vireless. Which intel wireless chip do you have? I believe it should be one of: IBM 11a/b/g Wireless LAN Mini PCI Adapter II (An ath5k card) Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG Mini-PCI Adapter Intel PRO/Wireless 2915ABG Mini-PCI Adapter Would some body of us give me The commands, which would enable me to install Debian Squeeze to my empty harddrive? With no need to use official installer? Because live installer and official installer is suffering because of detecting network hardware, even firmware .iso image with net installer can not help me. Debian 7.x is Wheezy. Squeeze was Debian 6.x and is no longer the current stable release. But remastersys can not install The Debian Squeeze to The usable form. I AM getting The error message shadow passwords can not be enabled. So i can not login to The system, because non root and also The root user passwords can not be accessed. I have never heard of 'remastersys'. Any help is strongly welcomed. I would like to install Debian Squeeze live CD gnome to my empty harddisk. The .iso image can be downloaded by using this direct link. http://live.debian.net/cdimage/release/oldstable/i386/iso-hybrid/debian-live-6.0.7-i386-gnome-desktop.iso My network carts are perfectly supported from The live Debian system, i did not test The vireless network device, but i do not use it at all. Broadcomm device is working for me so i can use The Internet perfectly from The running live system. Thank You for Yours programmers work. I would use The kernel module to mount The squashfs image with Debian Squeeze and i would copy it from other live distro, but this will not allow me to login to The installed system. I have never used the live images at all. What error does it give you when firmware-7.1.0-i386-netinst.iso gets to the network detection? I did find a page discussing problems installing Debian in 2011 on a thinkpad T43, and hanging at network detection. The problem turns out to be the weird floppy interface on the T43. Try disabling the floppy in the BIOS settings, and that should hopefully solve the problem. The T43 had a port for an external floppy drive, even if you don't actually have one, and it is usually enabled by default. And yes the live image works fine with it enabled. Info found here: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17t=64881 -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130710140453.gb11...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca
Re: debian-7.1.0-i386-netinst included installer can not detect network hardware
Dear sir, Thank You very much for Yours constructive help. Yes, Linux kernel is displaying I/O error related to FD0 floppy disk drive device. I think, that this can make problem to kernel, i hope, that some kernel threat is not overloaded by this constant searching for FD0, some kernel loops are may be overloaded. But i must give it up, i AM totally blind and i can not safely change The BIOS settings. I will try to ask for sighted assistance. I Am using Gnome live project because in Debian Squeeze, ALSA sound server is being used without Pulseaudio sound server and because i AM blind at all, i Am using Orca screen reader with Espeak speech synthesizer. When Pulse audio is being used, there are issues with speech responsiveness. So thank You for finding The reasons. If i were C language developer, i would modifi The C source code of Debian installer, so it would stop to find all available network devices, if one would be detected, second device would be ignored by The installer. So only non vireless network devices would be used by The Debian installer. But i know, that many users are having vireless Internet connections, and that Debian installer developers thought it well with Debian installer users. So thank You again for Yours help. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51dd6df4.5050...@tiscali.cz
Re: debian-7.1.0-i386-netinst included installer can not detect network hardware
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 04:21:40PM +0200, Mgr. Janusz Chmiel wrote: Dear sir, Thank You very much for Yours constructive help. Yes, Linux kernel is displaying I/O error related to FD0 floppy disk drive device. I think, that this can make problem to kernel, i hope, that some kernel threat is not overloaded by this constant searching for FD0, some kernel loops are may be overloaded. But i must give it up, i AM totally blind and i can not safely change The BIOS settings. I will try to ask for sighted assistance. At least there is a good chance that it will solve the problem. There was a suggestion of passing the kernel option 'floppy=thinkpad' at the boot prompt, but no answer as to whether that made a difference or not. I Am using Gnome live project because in Debian Squeeze, ALSA sound server is being used without Pulseaudio sound server and because i AM blind at all, i Am using Orca screen reader with Espeak speech synthesizer. When Pulse audio is being used, there are issues with speech responsiveness. So thank You for finding The reasons. Pulseaudio is often a major annoyance. Yet other times it seems to solve problems. It is really annoying. If i were C language developer, i would modifi The C source code of Debian installer, so it would stop to find all available network devices, if one would be detected, second device would be ignored by The installer. Well the installer wouldn't know which device you wanted to use. Some machines have multiple wired ports and it wouldn't know which one you plugged a cable into. So only non vireless network devices would be used by The Debian installer. But i know, that many users are having vireless Internet connections, and that Debian installer developers thought it well with Debian installer users. Some people want to install by wireless for some reason, and quite a bit of work appears to have gone into supporting that in wheezy. So thank You again for Yours help. No problem. I hope you get the BIOS setting changed and that it fixes the problem. Or maybe that kernel option would fix it. The description of that option is: floppy=thinkpad Tells the floppy driver that you have a Thinkpad. Thinkpads use an inverted convention for the disk change line. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130710143650.gd11...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca
Re: debian-7.1.0-i386-netinst included installer can not detect network hardware
OK, I Am very sorry, i have not read The provided article, i will try this kernel option. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51dd79cb.7080...@tiscali.cz
Re: debian-7.1.0-i386-netinst included installer can not detect network hardware
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 05:12:11PM +0200, Mgr. Janusz Chmiel wrote: I Am very sorry, i have not read The provided article, i will try this kernel option. Actiually I read it again. Someone did try, and it did not work. The only thing that worked was disabling the floppy controller in the BIOS apparently. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130710160404.ge11...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca
Re: debian-7.1.0-i386-netinst included installer can not detect network hardware
On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 02:11:20AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: This is not true for most Broadcom Netxtreme controllers supported by the tg3 driver, and certainly not for the chip in this machine (BCM5751M). You may be thinking of the Broadcom Netxtreme II and IIx controllers supported by the bnx2 and bnx2x drivers. Those are mostly found in servers. Hmm, you may be right. I forgot there was a '2' in the one that required the firmware to work at all. It has been a while since I installed those machines. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130709212502.ga11...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca
debian-7.1.0-i386-netinst included installer can not detect network hardware
Dear core developers, I would like to express my deepest possible endorsement related to Yours voluntary complex programmers work. I Am very empathic human being and i know, how much time and how much intelectual work was been given to The Debian installer development. I like Debian distribution very, very much. The founder of The Debian have loven his woman so much, deep and strong, that The name of The distribution is containing The Deb characters. Because The name of The girlfriend of The Debian founder was Debra. I like The philosophy of Thee whole project. I like The freedom and constructive developers discussions on The various mailing lists related to The Debian operating system development. I have very big constructive plea to You, like a team of experienced developers. I Am helpless to install Debian Squeeze by using official provided installers. I have tried The .iso images from The following direct links. http://caesar.acc.umu.se/debian-cd/7.1.0/i386/iso-cd/debian-7.1.0-i386-netinst.iso http://napoleon.acc.umu.se/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/7.1.0/i386/iso-cd/firmware-7.1.0-i386-netinst.iso Installer is having The issues with my network integrated vireless chip, Intel vireless. Would some body of us give me The commands, which would enable me to install Debian Squeeze to my empty harddrive? With no need to use official installer? Because live installer and official installer is suffering because of detecting network hardware, even firmware .iso image with net installer can not help me. But remastersys can not install The Debian Squeeze to The usable form. I AM getting The error message shadow passwords can not be enabled. So i can not login to The system, because non root and also The root user passwords can not be accessed. Any help is strongly welcomed. I would like to install Debian Squeeze live CD gnome to my empty harddisk. The .iso image can be downloaded by using this direct link. http://live.debian.net/cdimage/release/oldstable/i386/iso-hybrid/debian-live-6.0.7-i386-gnome-desktop.iso My network carts are perfectly supported from The live Debian system, i did not test The vireless network device, but i do not use it at all. Broadcomm device is working for me so i can use The Internet perfectly from The running live system. Thank You for Yours programmers work. I would use The kernel module to mount The squashfs image with Debian Squeeze and i would copy it from other live distro, but this will not allow me to login to The installed system. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51dc8375.3070...@tiscali.cz
debian-7.1.0-i386-netinst included installer can not detect network hardware
Dear core developers, I Am very happy, when i have found out, that thanks to MR Samuel Tibault, there is possibility to have speech support while using debian-7.1.0-i386-netinst and integrated installer. I do not know, why, but i AM helpless to install Debian system because The process of detecting network hardware can not be completed successfully. The progress bar stay at the 95 percent. I Am using IBM Thinkpad model 2668 It is very sad, because i Am sure, that Linux kernel is containing The driver for The integrated Broadcomm Extreme Ethernet Network chip. Do You think, that i could help The developers to track The reason, why network hardware can not be auto detected successfully? Because i Am visually impaired, i have used The s character at The Isolinux boot screen followed by pressing Enter key to install The system with speech support. I can send You some log information, but tell me The procedure, to help You to find The cause of The network cart issue. Because Espeakup and Speakup is cooperating so nicely with Linux kernel and ALSA sound server and with Espeak synthesizer, i can use one of The free virtual console to type The necessary commands. Or i must use more modern computer and do not try to install Debian Wheezi on my IBM Thinkpad model? I would never intrude You, but i Am not able to force GTK and other accessibility related libraries to install Debian live by using included Debian live installer. Debian Squeeze can not be installed because of complex C language library call related issues, so when killing GDM3, login as root, typing startx Using Orca with Orca setup questions completed, Debian Squeeze GTK based installer can not be used. It is very interesting to use gnome-terminal with Orca, logged as root and try to run Debian Installer in The Debian Squeeze live project. The list of library related issues, .so files and C language rleated information is really outstanding. But how to debug and help C developers to fix those issues? Thank You very much for Yours help. With kindness regards. Janusz Chmiel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51db1ecb.8070...@tiscali.cz
Re: debian-7.1.0-i386-netinst included installer can not detect network hardware
On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 10:19:23PM +0200, Mgr. Janusz Chmiel wrote: Dear core developers, I Am very happy, when i have found out, that thanks to MR Samuel Tibault, there is possibility to have speech support while using debian-7.1.0-i386-netinst and integrated installer. I do not know, why, but i AM helpless to install Debian system because The process of detecting network hardware can not be completed successfully. The progress bar stay at the 95 percent. I Am using IBM Thinkpad model 2668 It is very sad, because i Am sure, that Linux kernel is containing The driver for The integrated Broadcomm Extreme Ethernet Network chip. Those network devices require non free firmware to operate, which is not included in the debian installer. You can either provide it on a usb key or use the unofficial installer that includes firmware. This should be documented in the installation guide. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130708210339.gy11...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca
Re: debian-7.1.0-i386-netinst included installer can not detect network hardware
On Mon, 2013-07-08 at 17:03 -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 10:19:23PM +0200, Mgr. Janusz Chmiel wrote: Dear core developers, I Am very happy, when i have found out, that thanks to MR Samuel Tibault, there is possibility to have speech support while using debian-7.1.0-i386-netinst and integrated installer. I do not know, why, but i AM helpless to install Debian system because The process of detecting network hardware can not be completed successfully. The progress bar stay at the 95 percent. I Am using IBM Thinkpad model 2668 It is very sad, because i Am sure, that Linux kernel is containing The driver for The integrated Broadcomm Extreme Ethernet Network chip. Those network devices require non free firmware to operate, which is not included in the debian installer. This is not true for most Broadcom Netxtreme controllers supported by the tg3 driver, and certainly not for the chip in this machine (BCM5751M). You may be thinking of the Broadcom Netxtreme II and IIx controllers supported by the bnx2 and bnx2x drivers. Those are mostly found in servers. Ben. You can either provide it on a usb key or use the unofficial installer that includes firmware. This should be documented in the installation guide. -- Ben Hutchings It is easier to write an incorrect program than to understand a correct one. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
