Re: installation-guide for testing
Hi, Laura Arjona Reina wrote: > > > El 26/1/20 a las 22:26, Holger Wansing escribió: > > Hi, > > > > Holger Wansing wrote: > >> Am Freitag, 24. Januar 2020 schrieb Laura Arjona Reina: > >>> We already have a commented out L226 in > >>> https://salsa.debian.org/webmaster-team/webwml/blob/master/english/devel/debian-installer/index.wml > >>> (and translations): > >>> > >>> #development > >>> version, > >>> > >>> I think that just removing the "#" there, committing, and then syncing > >>> translation would do the work, isn't it? > >>> > >>> If yes, I would say go ahead :-) > > > > This is now done. > > > >> My point is removing the stable link. > >> Or we should rephrase it, because "version for current > >> release" is not definite: "testing" is also a "release". > >> (Looking at https://www.debian.org/releases it reads > >> "Debian always has at least three releases in active maintenance: > >> stable, testing and unstable.") > >> > >> So that should be "version for the current stable release", > >> if we keep that link. > > > > Any objections on removing the stable link? > > Not from my side, I agree with the reasons you explain below. Since there were no objections (also from d-i side) I changed that now (including translations). Holger > > We are in the development part of the webpage, and at the very top of that > > page we have a hint pointing to the stable page for information about > > stable > > release. > > Thus pointing to the stable installation-guide from that page can be > > considered > > as inconsistency and maybe error-prone. > > > > -- > Laura Arjona Reina > https://wiki.debian.org/LauraArjona -- Holger Wansing PGP-Fingerprint: 496A C6E8 1442 4B34 8508 3529 59F1 87CA 156E B076
Re: installation-guide for testing
El 26/1/20 a las 22:26, Holger Wansing escribió: > Hi, > > Holger Wansing wrote: >> Am Freitag, 24. Januar 2020 schrieb Laura Arjona Reina: >>> We already have a commented out L226 in >>> https://salsa.debian.org/webmaster-team/webwml/blob/master/english/devel/debian-installer/index.wml >>> (and translations): >>> >>> #development >>> version, >>> >>> I think that just removing the "#" there, committing, and then syncing >>> translation would do the work, isn't it? >>> >>> If yes, I would say go ahead :-) > > This is now done. > >> My point is removing the stable link. >> Or we should rephrase it, because "version for current >> release" is not definite: "testing" is also a "release". >> (Looking at https://www.debian.org/releases it reads >> "Debian always has at least three releases in active maintenance: >> stable, testing and unstable.") >> >> So that should be "version for the current stable release", >> if we keep that link. > > Any objections on removing the stable link? Not from my side, I agree with the reasons you explain below. Kind regards > We are in the development part of the webpage, and at the very top of that > page we have a hint pointing to the stable page for information about stable > release. > Thus pointing to the stable installation-guide from that page can be > considered > as inconsistency and maybe error-prone. > -- Laura Arjona Reina https://wiki.debian.org/LauraArjona
Re: installation-guide for testing
Hi, Holger Wansing wrote: > Am Freitag, 24. Januar 2020 schrieb Laura Arjona Reina: > > We already have a commented out L226 in > > https://salsa.debian.org/webmaster-team/webwml/blob/master/english/devel/debian-installer/index.wml > > (and translations): > > > > #development > > version, > > > > I think that just removing the "#" there, committing, and then syncing > > translation would do the work, isn't it? > > > > If yes, I would say go ahead :-) This is now done. > My point is removing the stable link. > Or we should rephrase it, because "version for current > release" is not definite: "testing" is also a "release". > (Looking at https://www.debian.org/releases it reads > "Debian always has at least three releases in active maintenance: > stable, testing and unstable.") > > So that should be "version for the current stable release", > if we keep that link. Any objections on removing the stable link? We are in the development part of the webpage, and at the very top of that page we have a hint pointing to the stable page for information about stable release. Thus pointing to the stable installation-guide from that page can be considered as inconsistency and maybe error-prone. Holger -- Holger Wansing PGP-Fingerprint: 496A C6E8 1442 4B34 8508 3529 59F1 87CA 156E B076
Re: installation-guide for testing
Hi, Am Freitag, 24. Januar 2020 schrieb Laura Arjona Reina: > El 23/1/20 a las 22:00, Holger Wansing escribió: > > Hi, > > > > we have the installation-guide available for testing at the website now > > (say the version built from the latest source package in UNSTABLE). > > > > This is now built automatically, when a new installation-guide package is > > uploaded. > > > > In fact, the same counts for stable, so we have now two different versions > > of > > that manual on the website: the latest version for stable and for testing. > > > > This was a long standing issue on the website (release names were hardcoded, > > and getting the right version built when we upload the first version for the > > next release was always a pain), but that should be over now. > > > > Thank you very much!! > > > So, the version for stable is available at > > https://www.debian.org/releases/buster/installmanual > > (as always) and the one for testing at > > https://www.debian.org/releases/bullseye/installmanual > > however there is no link to that page currently on the website (as long as > > bullseye is testing). > > > > > > Do we want to change that, now that this version is regularly available? > > (Info: there is a link to that page in the wiki at > > https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller ) > > > > > > When visiting the releases/bullseye page at > > https://www.debian.org/releases/bullseye/ > > there is a link pointing to > > https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ > > and on that page there is (in section "Documentation") a link to the stable > > manual and the git version. > > I would suggest - as the smallest variant - to change the "stable" link into > > the "testing" one. There is no point in linking to the stable one there, > > since > > at the top of the page, we have > > "For official Debian 10.2 installation media and information, see the > > buster page." > > So, no need to link to the stable manual at the bottom of the page. > > > > > > What do you think? > > > > We already have a commented out L226 in > https://salsa.debian.org/webmaster-team/webwml/blob/master/english/devel/debian-installer/index.wml > (and translations): > > #development version, > > I think that just removing the "#" there, committing, and then syncing > translation would do the work, isn't it? > > If yes, I would say go ahead :-) My point is removing the stable link. Or we should rephrase it, because "version for current release" is not definite: "testing" is also a "release". (Looking at https://www.debian.org/releases it reads "Debian always has at least three releases in active maintenance: stable, testing and unstable.") So that should be "version for the current stable release", if we keep that link. Holger -- Sent from my Jolla phone http://www.jolla.com/
Re: installation-guide for testing
Hi El 23/1/20 a las 22:00, Holger Wansing escribió: > Hi, > > we have the installation-guide available for testing at the website now > (say the version built from the latest source package in UNSTABLE). > > This is now built automatically, when a new installation-guide package is > uploaded. > > In fact, the same counts for stable, so we have now two different versions of > that manual on the website: the latest version for stable and for testing. > > This was a long standing issue on the website (release names were hardcoded, > and getting the right version built when we upload the first version for the > next release was always a pain), but that should be over now. > Thank you very much!! > So, the version for stable is available at > https://www.debian.org/releases/buster/installmanual > (as always) and the one for testing at > https://www.debian.org/releases/bullseye/installmanual > however there is no link to that page currently on the website (as long as > bullseye is testing). > > > Do we want to change that, now that this version is regularly available? > (Info: there is a link to that page in the wiki at > https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller ) > > > When visiting the releases/bullseye page at > https://www.debian.org/releases/bullseye/ > there is a link pointing to > https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ > and on that page there is (in section "Documentation") a link to the stable > manual and the git version. > I would suggest - as the smallest variant - to change the "stable" link into > the "testing" one. There is no point in linking to the stable one there, since > at the top of the page, we have > "For official Debian 10.2 installation media and information, see the buster > page." > So, no need to link to the stable manual at the bottom of the page. > > > What do you think? > We already have a commented out L226 in https://salsa.debian.org/webmaster-team/webwml/blob/master/english/devel/debian-installer/index.wml (and translations): #development version, I think that just removing the "#" there, committing, and then syncing translation would do the work, isn't it? If yes, I would say go ahead :-) Kind regards, -- Laura Arjona Reina https://wiki.debian.org/LauraArjona
installation-guide for testing
Hi, we have the installation-guide available for testing at the website now (say the version built from the latest source package in UNSTABLE). This is now built automatically, when a new installation-guide package is uploaded. In fact, the same counts for stable, so we have now two different versions of that manual on the website: the latest version for stable and for testing. This was a long standing issue on the website (release names were hardcoded, and getting the right version built when we upload the first version for the next release was always a pain), but that should be over now. So, the version for stable is available at https://www.debian.org/releases/buster/installmanual (as always) and the one for testing at https://www.debian.org/releases/bullseye/installmanual however there is no link to that page currently on the website (as long as bullseye is testing). Do we want to change that, now that this version is regularly available? (Info: there is a link to that page in the wiki at https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller ) When visiting the releases/bullseye page at https://www.debian.org/releases/bullseye/ there is a link pointing to https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ and on that page there is (in section "Documentation") a link to the stable manual and the git version. I would suggest - as the smallest variant - to change the "stable" link into the "testing" one. There is no point in linking to the stable one there, since at the top of the page, we have "For official Debian 10.2 installation media and information, see the buster page." So, no need to link to the stable manual at the bottom of the page. What do you think? Holger -- Holger Wansing PGP-Fingerprint: 496A C6E8 1442 4B34 8508 3529 59F1 87CA 156E B076
