Re: is lilo ever installed by default anymore?

2010-09-22 Thread Ferenc Wagner
posion bit  writes:

> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Christian Perrier  wrote:
>
 So, I would say that LILO is no longer the default installer for some
 installations of lenny.
>>>
>>> Do you mean Squeeze?
>>
>> Yes, Squeeze
>>
>>> What if /boot is on LVM (can happen with manual partitioning)?  Grub2
>>> can (at least in principle) handle this, but I've never seen that in
>>> action.
>>
>> Probably needs to be checked..:)
>
> I don't know If this may help, but I can say that the thinkpad where I
> tested squeeze, all the disk is a single partition defined as  LVM
> volume group, and my logical volume /boot is into. D-I choosed grub2
> (and worked).
>
> Time ago, when you choosed /boot into LVM, lilo was choosed by d-i I think.

This pretty much nails it.  Thanks for the info!
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Re: is lilo ever installed by default anymore?

2010-09-21 Thread Osamu Aoki

On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 10:24:29AM +0200, posion bit wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Christian Perrier  wrote:
> >>> So, I would say that LILO is no longer the default installer for some
> >>> installations of lenny.
> >>
> >> Do you mean Squeeze?
> >
> > Yes, Squeeze
> >
> >> What if /boot is on LVM (can happen with manual partitioning)?  Grub2
> >> can (at least in principle) handle this, but I've never seen that in
> >> action.
> >
> > Probably needs to be checked..:)
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I don't know If this may help, but I can say that the thinkpad where I
> tested squeeze, all the disk is a single partition defined as  LVM
> volume group, and my logical volume /boot is into. D-I choosed grub2
> (and worked).
> 
> Time ago, when you choosed /boot into LVM, lilo was choosed by d-i I think.
> 
> And If I don't remember bad, lilo was "auto" choosed in  eFi hardware
> (intel iMac), but I can't say if squeeze does the same, because I need
> to track stable on my imac.

I have MacBook here :-)

FYI: 
 * Even for lenny d-i as I checked just before release
   Normal MBR system (amd64/i386): grub (GRUB 1)
   MacBook EFI system (amd64/i386): grub-pc (GRUB 2)
 * squeeze d-i
   Both are grub-pc (GRUB 2).

Early lenny testing d-i chose grub (GRUB 1) and I had to chose manually
lilo to get it installed and going.

Osamu


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Re: is lilo ever installed by default anymore?

2010-09-21 Thread posion bit
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Christian Perrier  wrote:
>>> So, I would say that LILO is no longer the default installer for some
>>> installations of lenny.
>>
>> Do you mean Squeeze?
>
> Yes, Squeeze
>
>> What if /boot is on LVM (can happen with manual partitioning)?  Grub2
>> can (at least in principle) handle this, but I've never seen that in
>> action.
>
> Probably needs to be checked..:)

Hi,

I don't know If this may help, but I can say that the thinkpad where I
tested squeeze, all the disk is a single partition defined as  LVM
volume group, and my logical volume /boot is into. D-I choosed grub2
(and worked).

Time ago, when you choosed /boot into LVM, lilo was choosed by d-i I think.

And If I don't remember bad, lilo was "auto" choosed in  eFi hardware
(intel iMac), but I can't say if squeeze does the same, because I need
to track stable on my imac.


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Re: is lilo ever installed by default anymore?

2010-09-21 Thread Ferenc Wagner
Christian PERRIER  writes:

> Quoting Steve Langasek (vor...@debian.org):
> 
>> I'm working on cleaning up the release notes for the squeeze release, and in
>> the section on post-upgrade lilo handling, we have this note, which is
>> carried over from lenny (where it referred to etch):
>> 
>>   If you are using lilo as your bootloader (it is the default bootloader for
>>   some installations of lenny) it is strongly recommended that you rerun lilo
>>   after the upgrade.
>> 
>> Can anyone confirm that it's actually the case in lenny that lilo is used by
>> default is some situations?  I'm not sure where in d-i to look for this.
>
>
> Looking around in D-I SVN, I see no code under "packages/" that says
> "don't install grub-installer and use lilo-installer instead".
>
> So, only the packages' priorities and the Menu-Item number can give
> precedence of one over the other
>
> Packages are "Priority: standard" and grub-installer has a lower menu
> entry number. 
>
> So, in short, I don't see any default install path where users would
> end up with lilo-installer being executed in place of grub-installer.
>
> The only path seems to be an expert install and explicitly choosing to
> install LILO instead of GRUB.
>
> So, I would say that LILO is no longer the default installer for some
> installations of lenny.

Do you mean Squeeze?
What if /boot is on LVM (can happen with manual partitioning)?  Grub2
can (at least in principle) handle this, but I've never seen that in
action.
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Re: is lilo ever installed by default anymore?

2010-09-21 Thread Christian Perrier

So, I would say that LILO is no longer the default installer for some
installations of lenny.


Do you mean Squeeze?


Yes, Squeeze


What if /boot is on LVM (can happen with manual partitioning)?  Grub2
can (at least in principle) handle this, but I've never seen that in
action.


Probably needs to be checked..:)


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Re: is lilo ever installed by default anymore?

2010-09-20 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Steve Langasek (vor...@debian.org):
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm working on cleaning up the release notes for the squeeze release, and in
> the section on post-upgrade lilo handling, we have this note, which is
> carried over from lenny (where it referred to etch):
> 
>   If you are using lilo as your bootloader (it is the default bootloader for
>   some installations of lenny) it is strongly recommended that you rerun lilo
>   after the upgrade.
> 
> Can anyone confirm that it's actually the case in lenny that lilo is used by
> default is some situations?  I'm not sure where in d-i to look for this.


Looking around in D-I SVN, I see no code under "packages/" that says
"don't install grub-installer and use lilo-installer instead".

So, only the packages' priorities and the Menu-Item number can give
precedence of one over the other

Packages are "Priority: standard" and grub-installer has a lower menu
entry number. 

So, in short, I don't see any default install path where users would
end up with lilo-installer being executed in place of grub-installer.

The only path seems to be an expert install and explicitly choosing to
install LILO instead of GRUB.

So, I would say that LILO is no longer the default installer for some
installations of lenny.




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is lilo ever installed by default anymore?

2010-09-20 Thread Steve Langasek
Hi all,

I'm working on cleaning up the release notes for the squeeze release, and in
the section on post-upgrade lilo handling, we have this note, which is
carried over from lenny (where it referred to etch):

  If you are using lilo as your bootloader (it is the default bootloader for
  some installations of lenny) it is strongly recommended that you rerun lilo
  after the upgrade.

Can anyone confirm that it's actually the case in lenny that lilo is used by
default is some situations?  I'm not sure where in d-i to look for this.

Thanks,
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Ubuntu Developerhttp://www.debian.org/
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