Re: Summary / new quik available (was Re: please test new quik with initrd-support (was: Re: getting quik into sarge?

2004-12-03 Thread simon
Ce jour Fri, 03 Dec 2004, Holger Levsen a dit:

i'd appreciate not having it hijacked from under me. i don't mind
getting help, and i do appreciate that, but i get the feeling it's being
hijacked from me. you could at least tell me WTF is going on.

eric
(the current quik maintainer)

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Re: please test new quik with initrd-support (was: Re: getting quik into sarge?

2004-12-03 Thread simon
Ce jour Sun, 28 Nov 2004, Colin Watson a dit:

> On Fri, Nov 26, 2004 at 10:58:48AM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote:
> > and, better not to forget, the new quik.deb is available at 
> > http://www.ulyssis.org/~p2/debjes/
> 
> Could the quik.conf(5) man page also be modified to include
> documentation of the initrd option? I'd be more comfortable with
> modifying quik-installer to match then.

i meant to do some doc updates in my last update, but i ran out of time (was 
leaving
for ottawa), so i didn't get a chance to do so :(. in my next "upload" i
will have the updated docs (initrd= and pause-after= included).

eric
 
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Re: please test new quik with initrd-support (was: Re: getting quik into sarge?

2004-12-03 Thread simon
Ce jour Sun, 28 Nov 2004, Christian Leimer a dit:

> Hi!
> 
> Can someone please post a sample quik.conf?
> 
> Do you use the ramdisk option or the append string one, any other settings?
> 
> I have an Umax S900 and it does not work here.
> Says something about can not find the root device.
> 
> I use an adaptec uw2940 and a ext3 formated hd. Maybe this is the
> troublemaker.

adaptec 2940uw can't boot from. and do not use anything BUT ext2 for
quik, it does not have ext3 or other support.

> And what is that chosen/bootargs= for?

that gets initialised only when a client OS (e.g., like linux) gets
loaded into memory.

> Thanks.
> 
> Bye chris.
> 
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Summary / new quik available (was Re: please test new quik with initrd-support (was: Re: getting quik into sarge?

2004-12-03 Thread Holger Levsen
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Hi,

Peter 'p2' De Schrijver has made some new updates to the quik - you can get it 
(.deb and source) at the http://www.ulyssis.org/~p2/debjes/

changes include:
 - manpage tells about initrd
 - compiles with gcc3
 - sprintf bug fixed
 - ANS raid support

quik with initrd has been tested on
- - ANS (Peter 'p2' De Schrijver)
- - PMac 4400/200 (me)
- - PMac 6500/250 (Romain Francoise)
- - PMac 7200/90 (Peter 'p2' De Schrijver, me)
- - PMac 9500 (Jaakko Niemi)
- - PMac Beige G3 Rev II (Simon Vallet)

If you got an(other) oldworld machine, please test this quik while installing 
the latest kernel-image-2.6.8-powerpc.deb (contains an initrd).

Nobody mentioned to have tried with less than 32mb ram, if you do, please 
report your results as well.

Colin Watson wrote:

> This seems to be inappropriately built as a native package. If it were
> built non-native then it would be easier for me to look over the
> .diff.gz to see the changes from upstream.

Still on the todo list - should be done as fast as possible to be able to 
achieve the goal of inclusion in sarge.. ;-)


regards,
 Holger 
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Re: please test new quik with initrd-support (was: Re: getting quik into sarge?

2004-11-28 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Nov 26, 2004 at 10:58:48AM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote:
> and, better not to forget, the new quik.deb is available at 
> http://www.ulyssis.org/~p2/debjes/

Could the quik.conf(5) man page also be modified to include
documentation of the initrd option? I'd be more comfortable with
modifying quik-installer to match then.

Thanks,

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Re: please test new quik with initrd-support (was: Re: getting quik into sarge?

2004-11-28 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Nov 26, 2004 at 10:58:48AM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote:
> and, better not to forget, the new quik.deb is available at 
> http://www.ulyssis.org/~p2/debjes/

This seems to be inappropriately built as a native package. If it were
built non-native then it would be easier for me to look over the
.diff.gz to see the changes from upstream.

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Re: please test new quik with initrd-support (was: Re: getting quik into sarge?

2004-11-26 Thread simon
Ce jour Fri, 26 Nov 2004, Sven Luther a dit:

> Mmm, i could test it on the umax apus 2000 and on the pmac 8200/120 i have
> here, need to test that this weekend. quik didn't work yet on the umax, and i
> have never really used it, so some kind of help would be welcome in order to
> set it up. 

can start off here:

http://simonraven.nuit.ca/macppc/models.shtml
http://wiki.kisikew.org/bin/view/Know/MacModels

as to the umaxen, i've had relatively easy success with a umax 3000 -
desktop case, though the IDE/ATA on them is pretty fucked. it seems to
take only one device at a time. the SCSI is a generic MESH chipset IIRC. 

> Mmm, wondering if there are some kind of ps2 or usb -> adb adapters, so i
> could try using the KVM switch for the apple boxes too.

i think so. dunno how common they are, or are still sold (i don't hang
around computer/electronics stores, i get most of my stuff from dumpsters,
etc.)

> > and, better not to forget, the new quik.deb is available at 
> > http://www.ulyssis.org/~p2/debjes/
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Friendly,
> 
> Sven Luther

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Re: please test new quik with initrd-support (was: Re: getting quik into sarge?

2004-11-26 Thread Romain Francoise
Holger Levsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> no, but as far as i know the initrd code has "only" been tested on
> three machines: ANS, pmac 4400 and pmac 7200. If you got access to
> another oldworld machine please test and report it.

Tested on a Power Mac 6500/250 installed about two hours ago using d-i
daily floppies: booting the 2.6.8 kernel from sarge with its initrd
works fine.  The machine has 32MB of physical RAM.

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Re: please test new quik with initrd-support (was: Re: getting quik into sarge?

2004-11-26 Thread Clive Menzies
On (26/11/04 18:04), Sven Luther wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 26, 2004 at 10:58:48AM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote:
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> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > cc:s added to gain more attention, reply-to: set.
> > 
> > On Friday 26 November 2004 10:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > i'm the current maintainer of quik, the oldworld PPC bootloader. i'm
> > > currently sponsored by Jakko Niemi. there have been many code changes
> > > made to it, including fixing bug #259359. for instance, initrd support,
> > > using chosen/bootargs in OF, and a couple of other things.
> > 
> > i would like to point out that the default kernel for powerpc is 2.6 and 
> > that 
> > the debian kernel packages for 2.6 need initrd support - so this is needed 
> > to 
> > be able to use the default debian kernels on oldworld (with a free 
> > bootloader).
> > 
> > so this quik is desirable for d-i, too.
> > 
> > > since it's in Section: base, and Priority: important, and there are many
> > > positive changes to it, i thought it should go into
> > > sarge-proposed-updates. is there any objection to this?
> > 
> > no, but as far as i know the initrd code has "only" been tested  on three 
> > machines: ANS, pmac 4400 and pmac 7200. If you got access to another 
> > oldworld 
> > machine please test and report it.
> 
> Mmm, i could test it on the umax apus 2000 and on the pmac 8200/120 i have
> here, need to test that this weekend. quik didn't work yet on the umax, and i
> have never really used it, so some kind of help would be welcome in order to
> set it up. 
> 
> Mmm, wondering if there are some kind of ps2 or usb -> adb adapters, so i
> could try using the KVM switch for the apple boxes too.
Hi Sven

This might help:

http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?F1DS104T

Regards

Clive

> 
> > > BTW, many thanks to go Peter 'p2' De Schrijver for his tremendous help in
> > > making it even possible to close that bug, as it was a pretty hefty bug.
> > 
> > yup! :-)
> > 
> > and, better not to forget, the new quik.deb is available at 
> > http://www.ulyssis.org/~p2/debjes/
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Friendly,
> 
> Sven Luther
> 
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Re: please test new quik with initrd-support (was: Re: getting quik into sarge?

2004-11-26 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Nov 26, 2004 at 10:58:48AM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> cc:s added to gain more attention, reply-to: set.
> 
> On Friday 26 November 2004 10:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > i'm the current maintainer of quik, the oldworld PPC bootloader. i'm
> > currently sponsored by Jakko Niemi. there have been many code changes
> > made to it, including fixing bug #259359. for instance, initrd support,
> > using chosen/bootargs in OF, and a couple of other things.
> 
> i would like to point out that the default kernel for powerpc is 2.6 and that 
> the debian kernel packages for 2.6 need initrd support - so this is needed to 
> be able to use the default debian kernels on oldworld (with a free 
> bootloader).
> 
> so this quik is desirable for d-i, too.
> 
> > since it's in Section: base, and Priority: important, and there are many
> > positive changes to it, i thought it should go into
> > sarge-proposed-updates. is there any objection to this?
> 
> no, but as far as i know the initrd code has "only" been tested  on three 
> machines: ANS, pmac 4400 and pmac 7200. If you got access to another oldworld 
> machine please test and report it.

Mmm, i could test it on the umax apus 2000 and on the pmac 8200/120 i have
here, need to test that this weekend. quik didn't work yet on the umax, and i
have never really used it, so some kind of help would be welcome in order to
set it up. 

Mmm, wondering if there are some kind of ps2 or usb -> adb adapters, so i
could try using the KVM switch for the apple boxes too.

> > BTW, many thanks to go Peter 'p2' De Schrijver for his tremendous help in
> > making it even possible to close that bug, as it was a pretty hefty bug.
> 
> yup! :-)
> 
> and, better not to forget, the new quik.deb is available at 
> http://www.ulyssis.org/~p2/debjes/

Thanks,

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Re: please test new quik with initrd-support (was: Re: getting quik into sarge?

2004-11-26 Thread Jaakko Niemi
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004, Holger Levsen wrote:
> > since it's in Section: base, and Priority: important, and there are many
> > positive changes to it, i thought it should go into
> > sarge-proposed-updates. is there any objection to this?
> 
> no, but as far as i know the initrd code has "only" been tested  on three 
> machines: ANS, pmac 4400 and pmac 7200. If you got access to another oldworld 
> machine please test and report it.

 Also, it works just fine on my 9500. I really need to test
 d-i on it one of these days as I need to change new disk
 in, as the old one makes horrible noise. 


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please test new quik with initrd-support (was: Re: getting quik into sarge?

2004-11-26 Thread Holger Levsen
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Hi,

cc:s added to gain more attention, reply-to: set.

On Friday 26 November 2004 10:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> i'm the current maintainer of quik, the oldworld PPC bootloader. i'm
> currently sponsored by Jakko Niemi. there have been many code changes
> made to it, including fixing bug #259359. for instance, initrd support,
> using chosen/bootargs in OF, and a couple of other things.

i would like to point out that the default kernel for powerpc is 2.6 and that 
the debian kernel packages for 2.6 need initrd support - so this is needed to 
be able to use the default debian kernels on oldworld (with a free 
bootloader).

so this quik is desirable for d-i, too.

> since it's in Section: base, and Priority: important, and there are many
> positive changes to it, i thought it should go into
> sarge-proposed-updates. is there any objection to this?

no, but as far as i know the initrd code has "only" been tested  on three 
machines: ANS, pmac 4400 and pmac 7200. If you got access to another oldworld 
machine please test and report it.

> BTW, many thanks to go Peter 'p2' De Schrijver for his tremendous help in
> making it even possible to close that bug, as it was a pretty hefty bug.

yup! :-)

and, better not to forget, the new quik.deb is available at 
http://www.ulyssis.org/~p2/debjes/


regards,
 Holger
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Re: please test new quik with initrd-support (was: Re: getting quik into sarge?

2004-11-26 Thread simon
Ce jour Fri, 26 Nov 2004, Holger Levsen a dit:

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> 
> Hi,
> 
> cc:s added to gain more attention, reply-to: set.
> 
> On Friday 26 November 2004 10:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > i'm the current maintainer of quik, the oldworld PPC bootloader. i'm
> > currently sponsored by Jakko Niemi. there have been many code changes
> > made to it, including fixing bug #259359. for instance, initrd support,
> > using chosen/bootargs in OF, and a couple of other things.
> 
> i would like to point out that the default kernel for powerpc is 2.6 and that 
> the debian kernel packages for 2.6 need initrd support - so this is needed to 
> be able to use the default debian kernels on oldworld (with a free 
> bootloader).
> 
> so this quik is desirable for d-i, too.

yes, understood.

> > since it's in Section: base, and Priority: important, and there are many
> > positive changes to it, i thought it should go into
> > sarge-proposed-updates. is there any objection to this?
> 
> no, but as far as i know the initrd code has "only" been tested  on three 
> machines: ANS, pmac 4400 and pmac 7200. If you got access to another oldworld 
> machine please test and report it.

count my power tower pro in there - the one i'm typing from. also this
machine is booted from 2.6.8-powerpc, the debian one, and it booted with
an initrd very well, thank you very much ;). and i bet it will work the
same on my 8500, though that one is currently on the fritz.

> 
> and, better not to forget, the new quik.deb is available at 
> http://www.ulyssis.org/~p2/debjes/

of which i've downloaded the source and going to integrate into the
debian diff. i'm also going to bump the version to 2.1, since it has
these new changes in it. i think it warrants it, IMO.

> 
> regards,
>  Holger
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