Re: problem with dhcp-client
On Sun Jul 15, 2001 at 11:06:28AM -0700, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > > > > How hard can it be to make pump work? > > I'm tempted to grab a copy of RFC 2131 and RFC 2132 and > > fix pump so it works... What exaxtly is the problem with > > pump that caused us to switch? > > > > -Erik > > Please, do that. We had no good reason aside from a few "it doesn't > work for me" reports, as I recall. Using an obsolete version of > dhcp-client deliberately is just bad news. I will start working on it this coming weekend (July 20th). -Erik -- Erik B. Andersen email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] --This message was written using 73% post-consumer electrons-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problem with dhcp-client
On Sun, Jul 15, 2001 at 05:55:36PM +0200, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > I think we have a problem. boot-floppies switched from pump (iirc) to > dhcp-client because the latter was better and in fact smaller than the not true, pump is the smallest of them all. the switch was made for a couple nebulous `it doesn't werk for me' reports, as dan said. pump generally worked fine on potato bootfloppies. > So in fact the new version might be too big for boot-floppies. And > the old version doesn't work on powerpc... so? fix pump and use it on all archs. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ PGP signature
Re: problem with dhcp-client
On Sun, Jul 15, 2001 at 01:06:27PM -0500, Stephen R Marenka wrote: > > It didn't work with boot-floppies, see bts#94176. In addition to i386, > it didn't work on -- you guessed it -- powerpc (my motivation to add not true, pump worked fine on potato boot-floppies, both i386 and powerpc. there are just a few servers that pump won't work with for whatever reason. > dhcp-client support). Actually, dhcp-client works fine on my powerpc > box using a dhcp host. The problems appears to be bootp related, but > I'm sure Ethan will fill you in. i only test with bootp. it works in potato, not in woody. > As for switching between pump and dhcp-client, just change the extract > files accordingly -- dbootstrap should support whichever it finds. > > Both of these packages seem to have annoying, long-standing bugs > associated with them. such as dhcp-client's broken initscript that must be removed if it is to stay in woody's base... -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ PGP signature
Re: problem with dhcp-client
On Sun, Jul 15, 2001 at 11:39:01AM -0600, Erik Andersen wrote: > On Sun Jul 15, 2001 at 05:44:33PM +0100, Philip Blundell wrote: > > David Kimdon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> So in fact the new version might be too big for boot-floppies. And > > >> the old version doesn't work on powerpc... so? > > >> > > >powerpc should switch to use pump, everyone else stick with dhcp-client-2.0, > > >IMHO. > > > > Well, how hard can it be to make dhcp-client 2.0 work on powerpc? Has anybody > > investigated what the actual problem is? > > How hard can it be to make pump work? > I'm tempted to grab a copy of RFC 2131 and RFC 2132 and > fix pump so it works... What exaxtly is the problem with > pump that caused us to switch? It didn't work with boot-floppies, see bts#94176. In addition to i386, it didn't work on -- you guessed it -- powerpc (my motivation to add dhcp-client support). Actually, dhcp-client works fine on my powerpc box using a dhcp host. The problems appears to be bootp related, but I'm sure Ethan will fill you in. As for switching between pump and dhcp-client, just change the extract files accordingly -- dbootstrap should support whichever it finds. Both of these packages seem to have annoying, long-standing bugs associated with them. Stephen -- Stephen R. Marenka If life's not fun, you're not doing it right! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP signature
Re: problem with dhcp-client
On Sun, Jul 15, 2001 at 11:39:01AM -0600, Erik Andersen wrote: > On Sun Jul 15, 2001 at 05:44:33PM +0100, Philip Blundell wrote: > > David Kimdon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> So in fact the new version might be too big for boot-floppies. And > > >> the old version doesn't work on powerpc... so? > > >> > > >powerpc should switch to use pump, everyone else stick with dhcp-client-2.0, > > >IMHO. > > > > Well, how hard can it be to make dhcp-client 2.0 work on powerpc? Has anybody > > investigated what the actual problem is? > > How hard can it be to make pump work? > I'm tempted to grab a copy of RFC 2131 and RFC 2132 and > fix pump so it works... What exaxtly is the problem with > pump that caused us to switch? > > -Erik Please, do that. We had no good reason aside from a few "it doesn't work for me" reports, as I recall. Using an obsolete version of dhcp-client deliberately is just bad news. -- Daniel Jacobowitz Carnegie Mellon University MontaVista Software Debian GNU/Linux Developer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problem with dhcp-client
On Sun Jul 15, 2001 at 05:44:33PM +0100, Philip Blundell wrote: > David Kimdon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> So in fact the new version might be too big for boot-floppies. And > >> the old version doesn't work on powerpc... so? > >> > >powerpc should switch to use pump, everyone else stick with dhcp-client-2.0, > >IMHO. > > Well, how hard can it be to make dhcp-client 2.0 work on powerpc? Has anybody > investigated what the actual problem is? How hard can it be to make pump work? I'm tempted to grab a copy of RFC 2131 and RFC 2132 and fix pump so it works... What exaxtly is the problem with pump that caused us to switch? -Erik -- Erik B. Andersen email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] --This message was written using 73% post-consumer electrons-- PGP signature
Re: problem with dhcp-client
David Kimdon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> So in fact the new version might be too big for boot-floppies. And >> the old version doesn't work on powerpc... so? >> >powerpc should switch to use pump, everyone else stick with dhcp-client-2.0, >IMHO. Well, how hard can it be to make dhcp-client 2.0 work on powerpc? Has anybody investigated what the actual problem is? p. PGP signature
Re: problem with dhcp-client
> I think we have a problem. boot-floppies switched from pump (iirc) to > dhcp-client because the latter was better and in fact smaller than the > former. However, dhcp-client does apparently not work on powerpc (see > #103813). > > The maintainer, Eloy Paris, thinks that the problem might be fixed in > the new 3.0 (now in beta) release. BUT: > > > I think we will have a problem when DHCP 3.0 comes out: the > > dhcp-client package for DHCP 3.0 is *huge*! cause I was curious what was meant by huge: $ dpkg -x dhcp-client_2.0pl5-5_i386.deb 2.0pl5-5 $ dpkg -x dhcp-client_3.0beta2RC10-1_i386.deb 3.0beta2RC10 $ tar -czf dhcp.3.gz 3.0beta2RC10/sbin/dhclient 3.0beta2RC10/etc/dhclient $ tar -czf dhcp.2.gz 2.0pl5-5/sbin/dhclient 2.0pl5-5/etc/dhclient-script $ ls -la dhcp.*.gz -rw-rw-r--1 davidw users2169 Jul 15 09:30 dhcp.2.gz -rw-rw-r--1 davidw users 153921 Jul 15 09:29 dhcp.3.gz $ All the size is in the 3.0 binary, not the script, btw. umm, yea, that's '*huge*!' > > So in fact the new version might be too big for boot-floppies. And > the old version doesn't work on powerpc... so? > powerpc should switch to use pump, everyone else stick with dhcp-client-2.0, IMHO. -David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
problem with dhcp-client
* David Whedon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20010511 12:46]: > Fri, May 11, 2001 at 01:56:34PM -0500 wrote: > > works very well. The downside is that dhcp-client takes up a bit more > > space than pump: 137930 (more if kernel 2.0 support is required) vs. > I don't think we need to directly support 2.0.x on boot-floppies, though if we > decide not to we should make a note in the docs that dhcp won't work if you > replace the kernel with a 2.0 serias. > > > The udeb already exists in the archive, the only thing to do would be to modify [...] I think we have a problem. boot-floppies switched from pump (iirc) to dhcp-client because the latter was better and in fact smaller than the former. However, dhcp-client does apparently not work on powerpc (see #103813). The maintainer, Eloy Paris, thinks that the problem might be fixed in the new 3.0 (now in beta) release. BUT: > I think we will have a problem when DHCP 3.0 comes out: the > dhcp-client package for DHCP 3.0 is *huge*! So in fact the new version might be too big for boot-floppies. And the old version doesn't work on powerpc... so? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
