Re: translations for d-i manual [ Was: Re: Status of D-I translations... ]
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 08:48:47PM +0100, Holger Wansing wrote: The situation for the d-i manual is similar: we have some languages, that did not receive no or nearly no translation updates since the release of Wheezy. Should those languages be deactivated? These are:japanese (no update since 17 months) russian (no update since 24 months) swedish (no update since 2 years 7 months) vietnamese (no update since 2 years 7 months) chinese zh_CN (no update since 2 years 3 months) All of them are po-based translations, so the manuals are strictly spoken not outdated (changed paragraphs fall-back to english), but it of no good use for users probably? Even though the documents are not translated fully some content might still be useful. Also, showing that the translation is not finished, but partial, might actually spur some people to take it over. I think it would be best to keep the languages and try to find a way to (automatically) add a disclaimer to the top of the document saying something like: This document is not fully translated and it is not actively being updated. If you can help please contact x When I mean automatically I mean that the text should be added when the PO statistics show a large part of the content untranslated. Best regards Javier signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: translations for d-i manual [ Was: Re: Status of D-I translations... ]
Hi all, and sorry for the lag in replying to this thread. A quick word about Danish, re-enabled in: 69659 sthibault daDanish (according to svn blame debian/langlist). Hendrik Boom hend...@topoi.pooq.com (2015-03-12): On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 08:48:47PM +0100, Holger Wansing wrote: The situation for the d-i manual is similar: we have some languages, that did not receive no or nearly no translation updates since the release of Wheezy. Should those languages be deactivated? These are: japanese (no update since 17 months) russian (no update since 24 months) swedish (no update since 2 years 7 months) vietnamese (no update since 2 years 7 months) chinese zh_CN (no update since 2 years 3 months) All of them are po-based translations, so the manuals are strictly spoken not outdated (changed paragraphs fall-back to english), but it of no good use for users probably? Well, if I had a choice between a manual thta was all in a foreign language and one that was half in a foreign language and half in mine, I'd prefer the one that was half in mine. Yeah, I guess keeping the translations enabled means we have a chance of being useful to some people; seeing clearly partial and/or outdated translations might give some motivation to potential contributors as well. I'm no psychologist though… Mraw, KiBi. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: translations for d-i manual [ Was: Re: Status of D-I translations... ]
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 08:48:47PM +0100, Holger Wansing wrote: Hi, Christian PERRIER bubu...@debian.org wrote: It means that we're indeed left with about only 10 languages that happen to be complete - those where translators act on their own and know what to do to get a fully translated D-I. For others, most of the time, the registered person with commit access either vanished or doesn't care anymore for D-I to be fully translated. The situation for the d-i manual is similar: we have some languages, that did not receive no or nearly no translation updates since the release of Wheezy. Should those languages be deactivated? These are:japanese (no update since 17 months) russian (no update since 24 months) swedish (no update since 2 years 7 months) vietnamese (no update since 2 years 7 months) chinese zh_CN (no update since 2 years 3 months) All of them are po-based translations, so the manuals are strictly spoken not outdated (changed paragraphs fall-back to english), but it of no good use for users probably? Well, if I had a choice between a manual thta was all in a foreign language and one that was half in a foreign language and half in mine, I'd prefer the one that was half in mine. -- hendrik k -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150312210105.gb25...@topoi.pooq.com
translations for d-i manual [ Was: Re: Status of D-I translations... ]
Hi, Christian PERRIER bubu...@debian.org wrote: It means that we're indeed left with about only 10 languages that happen to be complete - those where translators act on their own and know what to do to get a fully translated D-I. For others, most of the time, the registered person with commit access either vanished or doesn't care anymore for D-I to be fully translated. The situation for the d-i manual is similar: we have some languages, that did not receive no or nearly no translation updates since the release of Wheezy. Should those languages be deactivated? These are: japanese (no update since 17 months) russian (no update since 24 months) swedish (no update since 2 years 7 months) vietnamese (no update since 2 years 7 months) chinese zh_CN (no update since 2 years 3 months) All of them are po-based translations, so the manuals are strictly spoken not outdated (changed paragraphs fall-back to english), but it of no good use for users probably? Additionally, I would recommend to re-activate Danish. Joe Dalton did a good job lately to catch up with the translation update (not fully up-to-date though, but also po-based). Holger -- Created with Sylpheed 3.2.0 under D E B I A N L I N U X 7 . 0 W H E E Z Y ! Registered Linux User #311290 - https://linuxcounter.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150312204847.6e3a14f7043e243c4ade6...@wansing-online.de
