Re: Roll call for porters of architectures in sid and testing (Status update)
On 2013-09-01 09:33, Niels Thykier wrote: Hi, As we announced in [LAST-BITS], we would like to get a better idea of that status of the ports, to make an informed decision about which port can be released with jessie. One of the steps is to get an overview of which of the porters are (still) active for each port. Once the results from the role-call are in, we will request other information about the status of the ports. In the meantime, feel free to update and collect info about the ports in the Debian wiki[WIKI]. If you are (or intend to become) an active porter for the lifetime of jessie, then please send a signed email explaining your involvement in the port to the Release Team debian-rele...@lists.debian.org before 1st of October 2013. Please explain the level of your involvement in the port. Feel free to use the following template as your reply: [...] Niels, on behalf of the release team [LAST-BITS] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2013/08/msg6.html [WIKI] https://wiki.debian.org/ArchiveQualification/Jessie Hi all, Here is a little status update on the mails we have received so far. First off, thanks to all the porters who have already replied! So far, the *no one* has stepped up to back the following architectures: hurd-i386 ia64 mips mipsel s390x I have pinged some people and #d-hurd, so this will hopefully be amended soon. Remember that the *deadline is 1st of October*. In the list above, I excluded: amd64 and i386: requirement for porters is waived s390: Being removed from testing during the Jessie cycle (Agreement made during the Wheezy release cycle) The following table shows the porters for each architecture in *unstable* that I have data on so far: armel: Wookey (DD) armhf: Jeremiah Foster (!DD, but NM?), Wookey (DD) kfreebsd-amd64: Christoph Egger (DD), Axel Beckert (DD), Petr Salinger (!DD), Robert Millan (DD) kfreebsd-i386: Christoph Egger (DD), Axel Beckert (DD), Petr Salinger (!DD), Robert Millan (DD) powerpc: Geoff Levand (!DD), Roger Leigh (DD) sparc: Axel Beckert (DD), Rainer Herbst (!DD) If you are missing from this list above, then I have missed your email. Please follow up to this mail with a message-ID (or resend it, whichever you prefer). We also got a number of people interested in architectures not currently in unstable. These are: alpha: Bill MacAllister (!DD), Kieron Gillespie (!DD) arm64: Wookey (DD) parisc/hppa: Helge Deller (!DD) ppc64: Steven Gawroriski (!DD) sparc64: Steven Gawroriski (!DD), Kieron Gillespie (!DD) This will hopefully teach me to remember to include the in unstable restriction to the next roll call. :) Anyhow, if you are working on these architectures on debian-ports and saw a new name in the list above, this might be an opportunity to recruit new people. We also received a couple of emails from people who are not or did not want to be porters at the moment. However, they expressed an interest in the architectures: David Kuehling: mipsel - debug arch-related issues Meelis Roos: ppc, sparc64 (parisc) - test and report bugs in upstream kernel Peter Green: armhf (possibly any-arm) - works on raspbian In the template email included in the roll call, we included some tasks that people might be doing. These are the task people have said they are doing for a given port. * test packages: armhf, kfreebsd-amd64 (x4), kfreebsd-i386 (x4), powerpc, sparc (x2) * fix toolchain issues: armhf, powerpc * triage arch-specific bugs: armhf, kfreebsd-amd64 (x3), kfreebsd-i386 (x3), powerpc, sparc (x2) * fix arch-related bugs: armhf, kfreebsd-amd64 (x3), kfreebsd-i386 (x3), powerpc * maintain buildds: armhf, kfreebsd-amd64, kfreebsd-i386 NB: I have manually translated some prose-text into the items above, so something might have been lost (or gained) in that translation. Some of the porters also added some new items. I have included some of these items below: + test d-i when needed: powerpc (x2) + maintain arch-related pkgs: kfreebsd-amd64, kfreebsd-i386 + maintain non-DSA porter box: kfreebsd-amd64 + maintain production system of $arch: sparc/stable + can offer hardware access[1]: sparc (Axel Beckert) + eglibc issues: kfreebsd-amd64, kfreebsd-i386 + maintain+test cross-toolchains for $arch: armel, armhf ~Niels [1] Restrictions may apply. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bsd-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/523ab805.7000...@thykier.net
Re: Roll call for porters of architectures in sid and testing
Hi! I'm not a DD or DM, but an upstream contributor and maintainer for the toolchain, both for different things at work, and in my free time for the Hurd. I have no plans to stop this, so this will cover the jessie lifetime. As time permits, I also work on the Hurd itself, and advise contributors in porting issues as well as work on porting issues myself. Using your template: For Hurd, I fix toolchain issues, and to a lesser degree triage arch-specific bugs and fix arch-related bugs. Grüße, Thomas pgp4ASpl4YvbE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Keymaps in virtual consoles.
Hello all, fredag den 13 september 2013 klockan 23:38 skrev Steven Chamberlain detta: On 13/09/13 22:20, Steven Chamberlain wrote: There is a visible effect of changing layout (like german.iso changes to qwertz layout, fr.iso to azerty, and swedish.iso There's some visible effect (like loading german.iso enables a qwertz layout) but mostly characters render the same (swedish.iso). swedish.iso enables the key right of P as 0xe5, the keys right of L as 0xf6 and 0xe4 - these seem to be the correct ASCII codes but none of those are rendered. If you type these into xxd, the cursor doesn't even move, but pressing ^D ^D you can see that something was typed. I stumbled on an interesting phenomenon by a simple $ date In Swedish, Monday needs aring, i.e., 0xe5 in Latin1, and 0xc3 0xa5 with UTF-8, while Saturday and Sunday need odiareses, i.e., 0xf6 and 0xc3 0xb6, respecively. Now, in a console with ISO-8859-15, neither vowel is rendered, while with UTF-8, they are rendered, but incorrectly. In fact, all of aring, Aring, adiareses, Adiareses, odiareses, and Odiareses are rendered identically as a capital A with an acute accent on top, which makes no sense in Swedish. These observations hold on Wheeze, so some fonts are clearly broken there. Best regards, Mats E Andersson, DM -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bsd-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130919111038.ga28...@gisladisker.se
Re: Roll call for porters of architectures in sid and testing
On Sun, 2013-09-01 at 09:33 +0200, Niels Thykier wrote: Hi, I am an active porter for the following architectures and I intend to continue this for the lifetime of the jessie release: For hurd-i386, I - test most packages on this architecture - fix toolchain issues - triage arch-specific bugs - fix arch-related bugs I am a not (yet) a DM/DD Svante Signell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bsd-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1379596145.5825.104.ca...@s1499.it.kth.se
Re: Roll call for porters of architectures in sid and testing (Status update)
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 10:38:29AM +0200, Niels Thykier wrote: Here is a little status update on the mails we have received so far. First off, thanks to all the porters who have already replied! So far, the *no one* has stepped up to back the following architectures: hurd-i386 ia64 mips mipsel s390x I have pinged some people and #d-hurd, so this will hopefully be amended soon. Remember that the *deadline is 1st of October*. In the list above, I excluded: amd64 and i386: requirement for porters is waived s390: Being removed from testing during the Jessie cycle (Agreement made during the Wheezy release cycle) The following table shows the porters for each architecture in *unstable* that I have data on so far: armel: Wookey (DD) armhf: Jeremiah Foster (!DD, but NM?), Wookey (DD) kfreebsd-amd64: Christoph Egger (DD), Axel Beckert (DD), Petr Salinger (!DD), Robert Millan (DD) kfreebsd-i386: Christoph Egger (DD), Axel Beckert (DD), Petr Salinger (!DD), Robert Millan (DD) powerpc: Geoff Levand (!DD), Roger Leigh (DD) sparc: Axel Beckert (DD), Rainer Herbst (!DD) If you are missing from this list above, then I have missed your email. Please follow up to this mail with a message-ID (or resend it, whichever you prefer). Message-ID: 20130904160124.gt12...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca Sent September 4th. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bsd-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130919145648.gf13...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca
Re: Roll call for porters of architectures in sid and testing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 I'm particularly keen to see communication packages working on as many architectures as possible because otherwise two-way communications opportunities are missed if some users are excluded. In short, I'm not formally volunteering, but if people have trouble with any VoIP or communications packages on any of the ports, please hassle me, I'll try to help. I'm also very happy to accept feedback and patches from porters when wearing my upstream developer hat, so if people have trouble with any of my packages on ports, please contact me. Regards, Daniel -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSO2GLAAoJEOm1uwJp1aqDrDwQAJWC2L3hHQvlLInXeN9YxfEk cqx9+qNnnT1Tl9Pj2x0kLYxYyxyI0guhpqPH/nxjD6KOyfSLiecmtyfgjqSW9y7x KnrB4OicgXLla5hpSnk5iLOg5WVDRajR/LznsnR+abCUCP/7ltAqmu3CMY6ZrOYH HHk9IgfkOoL1tJSabhBXEdSHS6EXB4raMYRKgRzp55iJtmr+704VnmP6KVMxYjPz q4253QRgf/MhcAl2WMiH/iCOJIyEENmaMnlkMNcASVk11uVhUhYhSnUfWlRm//q3 V5vIca/DR7UVnlSiFblEK1Ir1kLBamhCKOVQD98hYt00Fho3yK35udJtKYukei+C ILeEV9odlUT3LJUbdw0nP3K9zn58x8YHP26HscsaDltNyYQWLGf5EeJUWqyxHVwZ mHEQlNppsT8jZMjvo6BoafNxQvVTvBrYqyDXNvloLBDRh38Ppcb6z5Qng2akyRC9 I9TLFwDE7lzP1lFs3IDKuGTSFLgHve7ZgKIEmlj3JioVjME8yyvl/Z7SSFGWooAQ ykBnq7SYrmQBqWXbJw1BpCl6l8JoLYIVqq4wgsm7Gjd5XFs6FwwFoaDxumHorl90 PP2Yw+RZJDLwePsnFAmONo06/dbCNLgyyQAuENwYS50MJGp6uBl/YPxtB6dqvezL RIwweOQnSBmZ8/k16xIX =s7HC -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bsd-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/523b618c.4020...@pocock.com.au
Re: Suggestions from DSA
Steven Chamberlain: Maybe virtio drivers improve things (in kfreebsd-10, also were added in either 9.1 or 9.2 I think?). Yep, it's supported in 9.2. As for D-I, I don't think it will work due to different disk naming scheme (/dev/vtbd[0-9]). In case someone wants to give some try at fixing D-I, I think it just needs patching in two places: - A probing routine in parted (see debian/patches/kfreebsd_lvm.patch for an example) - humandev() in lib/base.sh in partman-base -- Robert Millan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bsd-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/523b78f8.3010...@debian.org
Re: Deterministic builds
On 18/09/13 23:02, Robert Millan wrote: Upstream does something similar with svn version number. I suggest you look at newvers.sh, perhaps it can be expanded to support other variables. Thanks. I saw that, and was able to do something similar. The gzipped kernel image now seems to be identical between builds. The .deb files still vary unless some Debian toolchain issues can be resolved[0]. For example, files archived in readdir order which can vary on ZFS, and timestamps in the .deb's 'ar' archive. [0]: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?usertag=reproducible-bui...@lists.alioth.debian.org Some loadable kernel modules exhibit another issue; full paths to the source files are embedded within zfs.ko and others. That may be explained by this[1] although I can't seem to strip them out. It happens both with gcc-4.8 and clang-3.3. [1]: https://wiki.debian.org/ReproducibleBuilds#Files_in_data.tar.gz_contains_build_paths Regards, -- Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bsd-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/523b790b.40...@pyro.eu.org
Re: Suggestions from DSA
Steven Chamberlain: Maybe virtio drivers improve things (in kfreebsd-10, also were added in either 9.1 or 9.2 I think?). Yep. Note the different disk naming scheme (/dev/vtbd[0-9]). In case someone wants to give some try at fixing D-I, I think it just needs patching in two places: - A probing routine in parted (see debian/patches/kfreebsd_lvm.patch for an exa) - humandev() in lib/base.sh in partman-base -- Robert Millan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bsd-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/523b7b6e.5070...@debian.org
Re: Keymaps in virtual consoles.
Mats Erik Andersson: I stumbled on an interesting phenomenon by a simple $ date In Swedish, Monday needs aring, i.e., 0xe5 in Latin1, and 0xc3 0xa5 with UTF-8, while Saturday and Sunday need odiareses, i.e., 0xf6 and 0xc3 0xb6, respecively. Now, in a console with ISO-8859-15, neither vowel is rendered, while with UTF-8, they are rendered, but incorrectly. In fact, all of aring, Aring, adiareses, Adiareses, odiareses, and Odiareses are rendered identically as a capital A with an acute accent on top, which makes no sense in Swedish. These observations hold on Wheeze, so some fonts are clearly broken there. This works fine on my Wheezy system. This is what I see on console: $ echo -e \\xc3\\xa5 å Are you loading special fonts or something? -- Robert Millan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bsd-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/523b75c2.3070...@debian.org