Re: Bug#932258: console-setup-freebsd: missing dependency
Hello, Missatge de Anton Zinoviev del dia dc., 17 de jul. 2019 a les 17:06: > On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 04:15:51PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: > > > > this seems like a problem with console-setup-freebsd being arch:all > > and depending on kFreeBSD-specific packages which will not be > > available elsewhere, in the same way console-setup-linux is an > > arch:all depending on Linux-specific packages. > > Why is it a problem to have an arch:all package which is installable > only on some architectures (due to missing dependencies)? I noticed the issue while doing a repository consistency check with main, contrib and non-free components for amd64 architecture on the buster suite. Tools like wanna-build also do similar checks for building packages, however this has not been an issue for the wanna-build checks in the past. Regards -- Héctor Orón -.. . -... .. .- -. -.. . ...- . .-.. --- .--. . .-.
Re: Bug#932258: console-setup-freebsd: missing dependency
On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 04:15:51PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: > > this seems like a problem with console-setup-freebsd being arch:all > and depending on kFreeBSD-specific packages which will not be > available elsewhere, in the same way console-setup-linux is an > arch:all depending on Linux-specific packages. Why is it a problem to have an arch:all package which is installable only on some architectures (due to missing dependencies)? Anton Zinoviev
Re: Bug#932258: console-setup-freebsd: missing dependency
Hi! [ I'm not sure this bug closure is entirely correct? See below. ] On Wed, 2019-07-17 at 13:25:50 +0100, James Clarke wrote: > On 17 Jul 2019, at 10:55, Holger Wansing wrote: > > Héctor Orón Martínez (2019-07-17): > > > Package: console-setup-freebsd > > > Version: 1.191 > > > Severity: grave > > > console-setup-freebsd has a dependency on vidcontrol, which is not > > > part of buster|bullseye|unstable, and causes the package to be > > > uninstallable. > > The same counts for kbdcontrol, also not existing in all suites. > vidcontrol, and the rest of src:freebsd-utils, is available in unreleased, > since the source package only builds for kfreebsd-amd64 and kfreebsd-i386. > Avoiding this would require either getting the source package to build on > Linux > architectures, or building at least one arch:all package, neither of which > seem > to have much point to them. As an architecture on Debian Ports, it is expected > that you also have the "unreleased" suite enabled, as is clearly documented on > the main site[1]. This is especially important on kFreeBSD, since > bin:freebsd-utils is Essential, containing many of the core utilities required > for a functioning system. All ports buildds should have unreleased available, > and debian-installer learnt over 2 years ago to include unreleased when > downloading udebs. Thus, I consider this not a bug; as much as we would like > it > to not be, as far as Debian Ports goes, unreleased is a necessary addition to > unstable, with cases like these stemming from the fact that ftp-master does > not > allow sources to exist that don't build packages for any of its architectures. I'm not sure the report was noticed on a kFreeBSD system (and due to the unreleased confusion), but otherwise this seems like a problem with console-setup-freebsd being arch:all and depending on kFreeBSD-specific packages which will not be available elsewhere, in the same way console-setup-linux is an arch:all depending on Linux-specific packages. The solution to the latter problem is to make these packages Architecture kfreebsd-any and linux-any respectively, because even if they are written in scripting languages they are not arch-independent. Thanks, Guillem
Re: Bug#932258: console-setup-freebsd: missing dependency
Hello, > Missatge de James Clarke del dia dc., 17 de jul. > 2019 a les 8:25: > > vidcontrol, and the rest of src:freebsd-utils, is available in unreleased, > > since the source package only builds for kfreebsd-amd64 and kfreebsd-i386. > > Avoiding this would require either getting the source package to build on > > Linux > > architectures, or building at least one arch:all package, neither of which > > seem > > to have much point to them. As an architecture on Debian Ports, it is > > expected > > that you also have the "unreleased" suite enabled, as is clearly documented > > on > > the main site[1]. This is especially important on kFreeBSD, since > > bin:freebsd-utils is Essential, containing many of the core utilities > > required > > for a functioning system. All ports buildds should have unreleased > > available, > > and debian-installer learnt over 2 years ago to include unreleased when > > downloading udebs. Thus, I consider this not a bug; as much as we would > > like it > > to not be, as far as Debian Ports goes, unreleased is a necessary addition > > to > > unstable, with cases like these stemming from the fact that ftp-master does > > not > > allow sources to exist that don't build packages for any of its > > architectures. > > Oh! I did not check unreleased, only `amd64` architecture and I saw > that dependency loop was not closed. Thanks very much for the nice > explanation and background. Along the lines, https://packages.debian.org/unstable/console-setup-freebsd site should probably check on the unreleased suite. Best regards -- Héctor Orón -.. . -... .. .- -. -.. . ...- . .-.. --- .--. . .-.
Re: Bug#932258: console-setup-freebsd: missing dependency
Hello, Missatge de James Clarke del dia dc., 17 de jul. 2019 a les 8:25: > vidcontrol, and the rest of src:freebsd-utils, is available in unreleased, > since the source package only builds for kfreebsd-amd64 and kfreebsd-i386. > Avoiding this would require either getting the source package to build on > Linux > architectures, or building at least one arch:all package, neither of which > seem > to have much point to them. As an architecture on Debian Ports, it is expected > that you also have the "unreleased" suite enabled, as is clearly documented on > the main site[1]. This is especially important on kFreeBSD, since > bin:freebsd-utils is Essential, containing many of the core utilities required > for a functioning system. All ports buildds should have unreleased available, > and debian-installer learnt over 2 years ago to include unreleased when > downloading udebs. Thus, I consider this not a bug; as much as we would like > it > to not be, as far as Debian Ports goes, unreleased is a necessary addition to > unstable, with cases like these stemming from the fact that ftp-master does > not > allow sources to exist that don't build packages for any of its architectures. Oh! I did not check unreleased, only `amd64` architecture and I saw that dependency loop was not closed. Thanks very much for the nice explanation and background. Regards -- Héctor Orón -.. . -... .. .- -. -.. . ...- . .-.. --- .--. . .-.
Re: Bug#932258: console-setup-freebsd: missing dependency
On 17 Jul 2019, at 10:55, Holger Wansing wrote: > > Hi, > > Cyril Brulebois wrote: >> Héctor Orón Martínez (2019-07-17): >>> Package: console-setup-freebsd >>> Version: 1.191 >>> Severity: grave >>> >>> >>> Dear Maintainer, >>> >>> console-setup-freebsd has a dependency on vidcontrol, which is not >>> part of buster|bullseye|unstable, and causes the package to be >>> uninstallable. >> >> Adding debian-bsd@ to the loop for advise. > > The same counts for kbdcontrol, also not existing in all suites. vidcontrol, and the rest of src:freebsd-utils, is available in unreleased, since the source package only builds for kfreebsd-amd64 and kfreebsd-i386. Avoiding this would require either getting the source package to build on Linux architectures, or building at least one arch:all package, neither of which seem to have much point to them. As an architecture on Debian Ports, it is expected that you also have the "unreleased" suite enabled, as is clearly documented on the main site[1]. This is especially important on kFreeBSD, since bin:freebsd-utils is Essential, containing many of the core utilities required for a functioning system. All ports buildds should have unreleased available, and debian-installer learnt over 2 years ago to include unreleased when downloading udebs. Thus, I consider this not a bug; as much as we would like it to not be, as far as Debian Ports goes, unreleased is a necessary addition to unstable, with cases like these stemming from the fact that ftp-master does not allow sources to exist that don't build packages for any of its architectures. James [1] https://www.ports.debian.org/archive
Re: Bug#932258: console-setup-freebsd: missing dependency
Hi, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Héctor Orón Martínez (2019-07-17): > > Package: console-setup-freebsd > > Version: 1.191 > > Severity: grave > > > > > > Dear Maintainer, > > > > console-setup-freebsd has a dependency on vidcontrol, which is not > > part of buster|bullseye|unstable, and causes the package to be > > uninstallable. > > Adding debian-bsd@ to the loop for advise. The same counts for kbdcontrol, also not existing in all suites. Holger -- Holger Wansing PGP-Fingerprint: 496A C6E8 1442 4B34 8508 3529 59F1 87CA 156E B076
