Re: [Pkg-dns-devel] What to do with isc-dhcp-client-udeb?

[Cyril Brulebois]

Hi all,

Ondřej Surý  (2018-01-23):
> I would also love to get rid of the isc-dhcp-client-udeb, but so far
> the message from the busybox team was that the dhcp client there
> doesn't compile there and needs some upstream work to get it working.
> 
> (As a matter of fact, the busybox doesn't compile at all on kfreebsd-*
> and hurd-i386 right now.)
> 
> As for the BIND libraries and libatomic.
> 
> There has been some effort to replace the custom atomic code with a
> C-provided counterpart - it also fixes the mips deadlocks.
> 
> But generally, I would prefer to move all BIND libraries into "custom"
> namespace, so the libraries are not used by anything else, and either:
> 
> a) use the custom copy of the libraries inside isc-dhcp
> b) prepare separate package for the lib-udeb that would
>follow the BIND 9.11 development (BIND 9.11 is to be supported for
>next 4 years) and then remove those AND isc-dhcp from Debian.
> 
> The upcoming ISC-DHCP release 4.4.0 is ought to be the _last_ major
> upgrade, see: https://www.isc.org/blogs/isc-dhcp-the-last-branch/
> 
> And if porting udhcpc to kFreeBSD proves to be much work, then perhaps
> porting dhclient from OpenBSD might be an option?

Thanks for your feedback, Ondřej.

It'd be helpful to have some input from hurd and kfreebsd people, so
that we know what to do with isc-dhcp-client-udeb in the end…


Cheers,
-- 
Cyril Brulebois (k...@debian.org)
D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant


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Re: [Pkg-dns-devel] What to do with isc-dhcp-client-udeb?

[Ondřej Surý]

Hi KiBi,

I would also love to get rid of the isc-dhcp-client-udeb, but so far the 
message from the busybox team was that the dhcp client there doesn't compile 
there and needs some upstream work to get it working.

(As a matter of fact, the busybox doesn't compile at all on kfreebsd-* and 
hurd-i386 right now.)

As for the BIND libraries and libatomic.

There has been some effort to replace the custom atomic code with a C-provided 
counterpart - it also fixes the mips deadlocks.

But generally, I would prefer to move all BIND libraries into "custom" 
namespace, so the libraries are not used by anything else, and either:

a) use the custom copy of the libraries inside isc-dhcp
b) prepare separate package for the lib-udeb that would follow the 
BIND 9.11 development (BIND 9.11 is to be supported for next 4 years) and then 
remove those AND isc-dhcp from Debian.

The upcoming ISC-DHCP release 4.4.0 is ought to be the _last_ major upgrade, 
see: https://www.isc.org/blogs/isc-dhcp-the-last-branch/

And if porting udhcpc to kFreeBSD proves to be much work, then perhaps porting 
dhclient from OpenBSD might be an option?

Ondrej
-- 
Ondřej Surý 

On Mon, Jan 22, 2018, at 16:20, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> Hi bind9 people,
> 
> I've just gotten this:
> 
> > Subject: udeb uninstallability trend: worse (+18/-)
> udeb uninstallability watcher  (2018-01-22):
> > Newly-broken packages in testing
> >   isc-dhcp-client-udeb armel mips mipsel
> >   libdns-export169-udebarmel mips mipsel
> >   libirs-export160-udebarmel mips mipsel
> >   libisc-export166-udebarmel mips mipsel
> >   libisccc-export160-udeb  armel mips mipsel
> >   libisccfg-export160-udeb armel mips mipsel
> > 
> > Uninstallability trend: worse (+18/-0)
> > Uninstallability count: 397
> 
> I happened to have missed its unstable counterpart, because those come in
> batches, depending on the current buildd status of packages. I thought the
> “Newly-broken” packages for armel, mips, and mipsel were an artifact of
> late builds.
> 
> I don't know anything about this libatomic1; but from a look at the 0013
> patch, it seems to be a need for a platform rather than for a feature…
> 
> Anyway, I'm not sure what to do with isc-dhcp-client-udeb; it's getting
> broken on a regular fashion, and its purpose was mainly for non-Linux
> ports AFAICR.
> 
> I'm not sure how BSD is doing these days; maybe hurd is the only user
> left?
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> -- 
> Cyril Brulebois (k...@debian.org)
> D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant
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