Bug#1000304: log rotation breaks silently on sysvinit based systems
On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 10:43:43PM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote: > > The SysV init script is no longer under the control of the rsyslog package. > Which means, whoever controls the start of the rsyslog daemon should > probably also manage its logrotation. I cannot follow that thought, but well. > > > A grave functionality drop like this needs to be announced, e.g. in a > > NEWS.Debian file. > > It's not a grave functionality drop. Unannounced risking data loss is a grave functionality drop. > Also sysvinit users account for less then 1%. Pestering the other 99% of > users is not warranted Debian used to care even for corner cases, esp. when it virtually costs nothing. I do not see "pestering" here, and I do not define goals of paket maintainance as 50% is good enough, neither. > > If you want to use a basically unsupported configuration, that's fine. But > that also means you have to deal with the consequences. Before the politicals discussion takes overhand, may I rephrase this request as Please add a notice to the end of sysvinit support to the NEWS.Debian file, maybe kindly mentioning the orphan-sysvinit-scripts package. Best regards, Joerg signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Bug#1000304: log rotation breaks silently on sysvinit based systems
On 21.11.21 08:06, Joerg Dorchain wrote: Package: rsyslog Version: 8.2110.0-3 Hello, the file /usr/lib/rsyslog/rsyslog-rotate, referenced in the postrotate section of /etc/logrotate.d/rsyslog, silently does nothing anymore on sysvinit based systems. Non-rotated logs lead to disk full, data loss and unusable systems. The SysV init script is no longer under the control of the rsyslog package. Which means, whoever controls the start of the rsyslog daemon should probably also manage its logrotation. A grave functionality drop like this needs to be announced, e.g. in a NEWS.Debian file. It's not a grave functionality drop. Also sysvinit users account for less then 1%. Pestering the other 99% of users is not warranted If you want to use a basically unsupported configuration, that's fine. But that also means you have to deal with the consequences. Michael OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#1000304: log rotation breaks silently on sysvinit based systems
Package: rsyslog Version: 8.2110.0-3 Hello, the file /usr/lib/rsyslog/rsyslog-rotate, referenced in the postrotate section of /etc/logrotate.d/rsyslog, silently does nothing anymore on sysvinit based systems. Non-rotated logs lead to disk full, data loss and unusable systems. A grave functionality drop like this needs to be announced, e.g. in a NEWS.Debian file. A word of reasoning why sysvinit support cannot be supported anymore would also help. Best regards, Joerg signature.asc Description: PGP signature