Bug#1052487: aide-common: please recommend canonical "cron | cron-daemon"
On Tue, Oct 03, 2023 at 11:26:51PM +0200, Alexandre Detiste wrote: > BTW: to make systemd-cron life easier, the .service/.timer > name has to exactly match the cron job name. Is that a recommendation to rename /etc/cron.daily/aide to /etc/cron.daily/dailyaidecheck because timer and service are dailyaidechck as well? Greetings Marc -- - Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany| lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 6224 1600402 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 6224 1600421
Bug#1052487: aide-common: please recommend canonical "cron | cron-daemon"
Le mar. 3 oct. 2023 à 21:24, Marc Haber a écrit : > I am just contemplating dropping the Recommends. A sysv system is likely > to have cron installed anyway. Then it's fine. BTW: to make systemd-cron life easier, the .service/.timer name has to exactly match the cron job name. That is not possible if there is already a .service for the daemon of this name. So the heuristic table is the most practical stop-gap thing to do. Greets
Bug#1052487: aide-common: please recommend canonical "cron | cron-daemon"
On Tue, Oct 03, 2023 at 04:33:37PM +0200, Alexandre Detiste wrote: > a écrit : > > On systemd systems, aide already uses a systemd timer. Given that the > > users of other init systems have to do manual work anyway, I intend to > > fully drop the cron dependency with one of the next uploads. > > > > Is that the right thing to do from your point of view, and would you > > recommend doing so? > > I don't recommend breaking non-systemd systems. > > I guess it's better for them a cron job with sane defaults than nothing. I am just contemplating dropping the Recommends. A sysv system is likely to have cron installed anyway. Greetings Marc -- - Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany| lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 6224 1600402 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 6224 1600421
Bug#1052487: aide-common: please recommend canonical "cron | cron-daemon"
Le mar. 3 oct. 2023 à 16:21, Marc Haber a écrit : > On systemd systems, aide already uses a systemd timer. Given that the > users of other init systems have to do manual work anyway, I intend to > fully drop the cron dependency with one of the next uploads. > > Is that the right thing to do from your point of view, and would you > recommend doing so? I don't recommend breaking non-systemd systems. I guess it's better for them a cron job with sane defaults than nothing. > > (this is a list of cron job that does > > "[ -d /run/systemd/system ] && exit 0") > > As my cron job is using a slightly different idiom, would I make things > easier for you if I wrote "[ -d /run/systemd/system ] && exit 0" > explicitly instad of my if construct? This old idea was dropped in the upstream project altogether because it was growing in a full blown bash AST parser. Greetings, And thank you
Bug#1052487: aide-common: please recommend canonical "cron | cron-daemon"
On Sat, Sep 23, 2023 at 01:10:59AM +0200, Alexandre Detiste wrote: > Please recommends the canonical "cron | cron-daemon" > instead of plain "cron". > > This way apt won't say anything about cron being > recommended when the stop-gap systemd-cron stub is already installed. On systemd systems, aide already uses a systemd timer. Given that the users of other init systems have to do manual work anyway, I intend to fully drop the cron dependency with one of the next uploads. Is that the right thing to do from your point of view, and would you recommend doing so? For the time being, I have committed the change recommended by you. > On my side I have added to systemd-cron an ignore rule for aide-common: > > https://salsa.debian.org/detiste-guest/systemd-cron/-/commit/356bfedd393b0bd8663b7737e7ba5b987916b403 > > (this is a list of cron job that does > "[ -d /run/systemd/system ] && exit 0") As my cron job is using a slightly different idiom, would I make things easier for you if I wrote "[ -d /run/systemd/system ] && exit 0" explicitly instad of my if construct? Greetings Marc
Bug#1052487: aide-common: please recommend canonical "cron | cron-daemon"
Package: aide-common Version: 0.18.6-1 Severity: minor Please recommends the canonical "cron | cron-daemon" instead of plain "cron". This way apt won't say anything about cron being recommended when the stop-gap systemd-cron stub is already installed. On my side I have added to systemd-cron an ignore rule for aide-common: https://salsa.debian.org/detiste-guest/systemd-cron/-/commit/356bfedd393b0bd8663b7737e7ba5b987916b403 (this is a list of cron job that does "[ -d /run/systemd/system ] && exit 0") Greetings, Alexandre -- System Information: Debian Release: trixie/sid APT prefers testing APT policy: (501, 'testing'), (450, 'unstable'), (400, 'experimental') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Foreign Architectures: i386 Kernel: Linux 6.4.0-4-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU threads; PREEMPT) Locale: LANG=fr_BE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=fr_BE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE=fr_BE:fr Shell: /bin/sh linked to /usr/bin/dash Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system) Versions of packages aide-common depends on: ii aide0.18.6-1 ii debconf [debconf-2.0] 1.5.82 ii liblockfile11.17-1+b1 ii systemd [systemd-sysusers] 254.1-3 ii ucf 3.0043+nmu1 Versions of packages aide-common recommends: ii bsd-mailx [mailx] 8.1.2-0.20220412cvs-1 pn cron ii mailutils [mailx] 1:3.16-1+b1 aide-common suggests no packages. -- debconf information excluded
