Bug#1057470: Outdated rkhunter since 2018-02

2023-12-06 Thread Richard Lewis
On Wed, 6 Dec 2023, 04:41 Jörg Frings-Fürst,  wrote:

> Hello Francois,
>
> I did not search for Vulnerabilities. However, I am of the opinion that
> using
> rkhunter in its current form is equivalent to using a 6 year old virus
> scanner
> and therefore involves an increased security risk.
>

i dont think this is a good analagy. rkhunter isnt only a virus scanner.
despite the name, several of the tests are not looking for specific
rootkits but for anomolies - scripts changing hashes, binaries replaced by
scripts. these tests still work (mostly) and provide as much benefit as
they ever did.


people that dont want rkhunter can uninstall it, as with any other optional
package.


Bug#1057470: Outdated rkhunter since 2018-02

2023-12-05 Thread Francois Marier
On 2023-12-05 at 20:28:44, Jörg Frings-Fürst (debian@jff.email) wrote:
> I did not search for Vulnerabilities. However, I am of the opinion that using
> rkhunter in its current form is equivalent to using a 6 year old virus scanner
> and therefore involves an increased security risk.

Ideally I agree that it would be great if more signatures could be added so
that new threats could be detected. I don't see any indication that of
vulnerabilities in this software however. Lack of new upstream development
is not necessarily an indication that the software is unsafe.

Francois

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Bug#1057470: Outdated rkhunter since 2018-02

2023-12-05 Thread Jörg Frings-Fürst
Hello Francois,

I did not search for Vulnerabilities. However, I am of the opinion that using
rkhunter in its current form is equivalent to using a 6 year old virus scanner
and therefore involves an increased security risk.




Am Dienstag, dem 05.12.2023 um 12:39 -0800 schrieb Francois Marier:
> On 2023-12-05 at 07:07:23, Jörg Frings-Fürst (debian@jff.email) wrote:
> > I noticed that the program and the data available on the internet are from
> > 2018-02. 
> > So almost 6 years old data suggests a non-existent security.
> 
> Hi Jörg, are you aware of security vulnerabilities in rkhunter or you are
> simply guessing that it might contain security vulnerabilities?
> 
> As far as I am aware, rkhunter is not under active development anymore, but
> it also doesn't have any known vulnerabilities.
> 
> Francois
> 

CU
Jörg

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Bug#1057470: Outdated rkhunter since 2018-02

2023-12-05 Thread Francois Marier
On 2023-12-05 at 07:07:23, Jörg Frings-Fürst (debian@jff.email) wrote:
> I noticed that the program and the data available on the internet are from 
> 2018-02. 
> So almost 6 years old data suggests a non-existent security.

Hi Jörg, are you aware of security vulnerabilities in rkhunter or you are
simply guessing that it might contain security vulnerabilities?

As far as I am aware, rkhunter is not under active development anymore, but
it also doesn't have any known vulnerabilities.

Francois

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Bug#1057470: Outdated rkhunter since 2018-02

2023-12-05 Thread Jörg Frings-Fürst
Package: rkhunter
Version: 1.4.6-11
Severity: grave

Hello,


I noticed that the program and the data available on the internet are from 
2018-02. 
So almost 6 years old data suggests a non-existent security.

My suggestion would therefore be to remove rkhunter from sid and trixie.

CU
Jörg


-- System Information:
Debian Release: trixie/sid
  APT prefers unstable-debug
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable-debug'), (500, 'testing'), (300, 'unstable')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 6.4.0-2-amd64 (SMP w/20 CPU threads; PREEMPT)
Kernel taint flags: TAINT_OOT_MODULE, TAINT_UNSIGNED_MODULE
Locale: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE not set
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /usr/bin/dash
Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)
LSM: AppArmor: enabled

Versions of packages rkhunter depends on:
ii  binutils   2.41.50.20231202-1
ii  debconf [debconf-2.0]  1.5.82
ii  file   1:5.45-2
ii  lsof   4.95.0-1
ii  net-tools  2.10-0.1
ii  perl   5.36.0-10
ii  ucf3.0043+nmu1

Versions of packages rkhunter recommends:
ii  bsd-mailx [mailx]  8.1.2-0.20220412cvs-1
ii  curl   8.4.0-2
ii  e2fsprogs  1.47.0-2+b1
ii  exim4-daemon-light [mail-transport-agent]  4.97-2
ii  iproute2   6.6.0-1
ii  unhide 20220611-1
ii  unhide.rb  22-6
ii  wget   1.21.4-1+b1

Versions of packages rkhunter suggests:
ii  liburi-perl 5.21-1
ii  libwww-perl 6.72-1
pn  powermgmt-base  

-- Configuration Files:
/etc/logcheck/ignore.d.server/rkhunter [Errno 13] Keine Berechtigung: 
'/etc/logcheck/ignore.d.server/rkhunter'

-- debconf-show failed