Bug#1064235: cloud.debian.org: systemd-resolved et al. status (bookworm)

2024-04-15 Thread Flavio Veloso Soares

Hi Noah,

First of all many thanks for the new images and for the help with this 
bug report.


Regarding removing libnss-resolve, that's good to know. I figured doing 
bullseye->bookworm was not a good strategy long-term anyways, so I 
decided to look further for a solution, which I found by removing the 
resolve entries in /etc/nsswitch.conf.


But I'll definitely will try by removing libnss-resolve on next installs.

For instance, the other issue I was facing turned out not to be related 
to s-resolved, but to s-networkd not honoring DHCP search domains (for 
which I'm currently testing a solution and plan to file a bug reports 
soon, hopefully with a proposed workaround).


Regards,

On 2024-04-11 20:33, Noah Meyerhans wrote:

On Wed, Apr 03, 2024 at 09:39:40PM -0700, Flavio Veloso Soares wrote:

Hi Noah - I guess I'll be doing bullseye->bookworm installs in the meantime,
until 12.6 so I can fill bug reports (if any).

It should be plenty to start with the bookworm images and simply remove
the libnss-resolve package.  It's quite a lot simpler.

noah


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FVS



Bug#1064235: cloud.debian.org: systemd-resolved et al. status (bookworm)

2024-04-11 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Wed, Apr 03, 2024 at 09:39:40PM -0700, Flavio Veloso Soares wrote:
> Hi Noah - I guess I'll be doing bullseye->bookworm installs in the meantime,
> until 12.6 so I can fill bug reports (if any).

It should be plenty to start with the bookworm images and simply remove
the libnss-resolve package.  It's quite a lot simpler.

noah



Bug#1064235: cloud.debian.org: systemd-resolved et al. status (bookworm)

2024-04-03 Thread Flavio Veloso Soares
Hi Noah - I guess I'll be doing bullseye->bookworm installs in the 
meantime, until 12.6 so I can fill bug reports (if any).


Appreciate the reply. Thanks for bringing me awareness of the issue in GH.

On 2024-04-03 20:01, Noah Meyerhans wrote:

Control: tags -1 + pending

On Wed, Apr 03, 2024 at 06:48:56PM -0700, Flavio Veloso Soares wrote:

Is this the correct forum to report issues/ask question about the official
Debian images on AWS?

The BTS isn't really the correct forum to ask questions about any Debian
topics, but it is the right place to report issues.

Note that the plan, as discussed in team meetings and described at
https://lists.debian.org/debian-cloud/2024/03/msg00018.html, is to stop
installing libnss-resolve as of the upcoming 12.6 release.  That will
effectively remove systemd-resolved from the name resolution process,
leaving it only to manage /etc/resolv.conf.

noah


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FVS



Bug#1064235: cloud.debian.org: systemd-resolved et al. status (bookworm)

2024-04-03 Thread Noah Meyerhans
Control: tags -1 + pending

On Wed, Apr 03, 2024 at 06:48:56PM -0700, Flavio Veloso Soares wrote:
> Is this the correct forum to report issues/ask question about the official
> Debian images on AWS?

The BTS isn't really the correct forum to ask questions about any Debian
topics, but it is the right place to report issues.

Note that the plan, as discussed in team meetings and described at
https://lists.debian.org/debian-cloud/2024/03/msg00018.html, is to stop
installing libnss-resolve as of the upcoming 12.6 release.  That will
effectively remove systemd-resolved from the name resolution process,
leaving it only to manage /etc/resolv.conf.

noah



Bug#1064235: cloud.debian.org: systemd-resolved et al. status (bookworm)

2024-04-03 Thread Flavio Veloso Soares

Hi,

Any update on this?

Is this the correct forum to report issues/ask question about the 
official Debian images on AWS?


On 2024-02-18 13:09, Flavio Veloso Soares wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Bookworm's release notes clearly states that "systemd-resolved was
> not, and still is not, the default DNS resolver in Debian"
> 
(https://www.debian.org/releases/bookworm/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#systemd-resolved)

>
> However apparently it is the default on the Debian provided AWS AMIs
> -- at least that's what I got out-of-box on a few instances I
> installed recently from the images in
> https://wiki.debian.org/Cloud/AmazonEC2Image/Bookworm for the
> us-east-2 and ca-west-1 regions.
>
> Goals here is not to discuss systemd idiosyncrasies, but I've only got
> headaches with systemd-resolved/-networkd to the point it's being
> easier to install Bullseye and upgrade
(...)

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FVS



Bug#1064235: cloud.debian.org: systemd-resolved et al. status (bookworm)

2024-02-18 Thread Flavio Veloso Soares
Package: cloud.debian.org
Severity: important
X-Debbugs-Cc: flavi...@magnux.com

Hello,

Bookworm's release notes clearly states that "systemd-resolved was
not, and still is not, the default DNS resolver in Debian"
(https://www.debian.org/releases/bookworm/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#systemd-resolved)

However apparently it is the default on the Debian provided AWS AMIs
-- at least that's what I got out-of-box on a few instances I
installed recently from the images in
https://wiki.debian.org/Cloud/AmazonEC2Image/Bookworm for the
us-east-2 and ca-west-1 regions.

Goals here is not to discuss systemd idiosyncrasies, but I've only got
headaches with systemd-resolved/-networkd to the point it's being
easier to install Bullseye and upgrade (no extra systemd-nonsensed
then, everything works).

So I just want to clarify what's the current status quo regarding
systemd-resolved/-networkd in cloud images so I can file bug reports
properly.

p.s.: same for polkitd -- not sure if we need a daemon "intended to be
used by privileged programs offering service to unprivileged programs
often through some form of inter-process communication mechanism"
installed NOT TO SAY RUNNING on a purposedly minimal network server
that virtually can only be acessed via ssh. I'm happy to file a bug
report/wishlist item if necessary.

Thank you,
FVS