Bug#1072648: src:survival: fails to migrate to testing for too long: triggers autopkgtest issues in r-cran-popepi which needs an update

2024-06-06 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel


On 6 June 2024 at 08:22, Johannes Ranke wrote:
| Am Mittwoch, 5. Juni 2024, 22:27:09 CEST schrieb Dirk Eddelbuettel:
| > On 5 June 2024 at 21:55, Paul Gevers wrote:
| > | Source: survival
| > | Version: 3.5-8-1
| > | Severity: serious
| > | Control: close -1 3.6-4-1
| > | Tags: sid trixie
| > | User: release.debian@packages.debian.org
| > | Usertags: out-of-sync
| > | 
| > | Dear maintainer(s),
| > | 
| > | The Release Team considers packages that are out-of-sync between testing
| > | and unstable for more than 30 days as having a Release Critical bug in
| > | testing [1]. Your package src:survival has been trying to migrate for 40
| > | days [2]. Hence, I am filing this bug. The version in unstable triggers
| > | autopkgtest failure in r-cran-popepi.
| > | 
| > | If a package is out of sync between unstable and testing for a longer
| > | period, this usually means that bugs in the package in testing cannot be
| > | fixed via unstable. Additionally, blocked packages can have impact on
| > | other packages, which makes preparing for the release more difficult.
| > | Finally, it often exposes issues with the package and/or
| > | its (reverse-)dependencies. We expect maintainers to fix issues that
| > | hamper the migration of their package in a timely manner.
| > | 
| > | This bug will trigger auto-removal when appropriate. As with all new
| > | bugs, there will be at least 30 days before the package is auto-removed.
| > | 
| > | I have immediately closed this bug with the version in unstable, so if
| > | that version or a later version migrates, this bug will no longer affect
| > | testing. I have also tagged this bug to only affect sid and trixie, so
| > | it doesn't affect (old-)stable.
| > | 
| > | If you believe your package is unable to migrate to testing due to
| > | issues beyond your control, don't hesitate to contact the Release Team.
| > 
| > It is beyond my control that package r-cran-popepi descides to run
| > autopkgtests that than hijack and blackmail this package of mine.
| > 
| > Maybe the maintainers of r-cran-popepi should look at their package tracker
| > and eg attempt to update to a _current_ version?  That's how things work at
| > CRAN.
| 
| A look at the ChangeLog of popEpi confirms that that package just needs an 
| update:
| 
| News for version 0.4.12
| Unit tests
| No changes in the package itself — fixed a unit test that used the output of 
| survival::summmary.survfit which had improved slightly in 3.6-4.
| 
| Should we reassign the bug to r-cran-popepi?

See #1072661

It would be nice if a package tracker should display not only 'this package
is behind' (which it does, and which seems to get ignored) but also 'this
package is involved in an autopkgtest failure of one of its reverse depends'.

survival is just a victim of its success: popEpi uses it, the maintainers
sleep and what is likely a routine update (possibly even initiated by CRAN
with a nudge) gets ignored here -- but we have massive amounts of manual
labour and headaches as a result.

I am not a fan of this rather imperfect setup. :-/

Dirk

| Johannes
| 
| > I am really tired of this here in Debian. If the package gets autoremoved,
| > so be it. The blame will rest with the so-called maintainer team for these
| > R package that are effectively taking down maintained packages of mine.
| > 
| > Dirk
| > 
| > | Paul
| > | 
| > | [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2023/06/msg1.html
| > | [2] https://qa.debian.org/excuses.php?package=survival
| > | 
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| 

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Bug#1072648: src:survival: fails to migrate to testing for too long: triggers autopkgtest issues in r-cran-popepi which needs an update

2024-06-05 Thread Johannes Ranke
Am Mittwoch, 5. Juni 2024, 22:27:09 CEST schrieb Dirk Eddelbuettel:
> On 5 June 2024 at 21:55, Paul Gevers wrote:
> | Source: survival
> | Version: 3.5-8-1
> | Severity: serious
> | Control: close -1 3.6-4-1
> | Tags: sid trixie
> | User: release.debian@packages.debian.org
> | Usertags: out-of-sync
> | 
> | Dear maintainer(s),
> | 
> | The Release Team considers packages that are out-of-sync between testing
> | and unstable for more than 30 days as having a Release Critical bug in
> | testing [1]. Your package src:survival has been trying to migrate for 40
> | days [2]. Hence, I am filing this bug. The version in unstable triggers
> | autopkgtest failure in r-cran-popepi.
> | 
> | If a package is out of sync between unstable and testing for a longer
> | period, this usually means that bugs in the package in testing cannot be
> | fixed via unstable. Additionally, blocked packages can have impact on
> | other packages, which makes preparing for the release more difficult.
> | Finally, it often exposes issues with the package and/or
> | its (reverse-)dependencies. We expect maintainers to fix issues that
> | hamper the migration of their package in a timely manner.
> | 
> | This bug will trigger auto-removal when appropriate. As with all new
> | bugs, there will be at least 30 days before the package is auto-removed.
> | 
> | I have immediately closed this bug with the version in unstable, so if
> | that version or a later version migrates, this bug will no longer affect
> | testing. I have also tagged this bug to only affect sid and trixie, so
> | it doesn't affect (old-)stable.
> | 
> | If you believe your package is unable to migrate to testing due to
> | issues beyond your control, don't hesitate to contact the Release Team.
> 
> It is beyond my control that package r-cran-popepi descides to run
> autopkgtests that than hijack and blackmail this package of mine.
> 
> Maybe the maintainers of r-cran-popepi should look at their package tracker
> and eg attempt to update to a _current_ version?  That's how things work at
> CRAN.

A look at the ChangeLog of popEpi confirms that that package just needs an 
update:

News for version 0.4.12
Unit tests
No changes in the package itself — fixed a unit test that used the output of 
survival::summmary.survfit which had improved slightly in 3.6-4.

Should we reassign the bug to r-cran-popepi?

Johannes

> I am really tired of this here in Debian. If the package gets autoremoved,
> so be it. The blame will rest with the so-called maintainer team for these
> R package that are effectively taking down maintained packages of mine.
> 
> Dirk
> 
> | Paul
> | 
> | [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2023/06/msg1.html
> | [2] https://qa.debian.org/excuses.php?package=survival
> | 
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Bug#1072648: src:survival: fails to migrate to testing for too long: triggers autopkgtest issues

2024-06-05 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel


On 5 June 2024 at 21:55, Paul Gevers wrote:
| Source: survival
| Version: 3.5-8-1
| Severity: serious
| Control: close -1 3.6-4-1
| Tags: sid trixie
| User: release.debian@packages.debian.org
| Usertags: out-of-sync
| 
| Dear maintainer(s),
| 
| The Release Team considers packages that are out-of-sync between testing 
| and unstable for more than 30 days as having a Release Critical bug in 
| testing [1]. Your package src:survival has been trying to migrate for 40 
| days [2]. Hence, I am filing this bug. The version in unstable triggers 
| autopkgtest failure in r-cran-popepi.
| 
| If a package is out of sync between unstable and testing for a longer 
| period, this usually means that bugs in the package in testing cannot be 
| fixed via unstable. Additionally, blocked packages can have impact on 
| other packages, which makes preparing for the release more difficult. 
| Finally, it often exposes issues with the package and/or
| its (reverse-)dependencies. We expect maintainers to fix issues that 
| hamper the migration of their package in a timely manner.
| 
| This bug will trigger auto-removal when appropriate. As with all new 
| bugs, there will be at least 30 days before the package is auto-removed.
| 
| I have immediately closed this bug with the version in unstable, so if 
| that version or a later version migrates, this bug will no longer affect 
| testing. I have also tagged this bug to only affect sid and trixie, so 
| it doesn't affect (old-)stable.
| 
| If you believe your package is unable to migrate to testing due to 
| issues beyond your control, don't hesitate to contact the Release Team.

It is beyond my control that package r-cran-popepi descides to run
autopkgtests that than hijack and blackmail this package of mine.

Maybe the maintainers of r-cran-popepi should look at their package tracker
and eg attempt to update to a _current_ version?  That's how things work at
CRAN.

I am really tired of this here in Debian. If the package gets autoremoved, so
be it. The blame will rest with the so-called maintainer team for these R
package that are effectively taking down maintained packages of mine.

Dirk

| Paul
| 
| [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2023/06/msg1.html
| [2] https://qa.debian.org/excuses.php?package=survival
| 
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Bug#1072648: src:survival: fails to migrate to testing for too long: triggers autopkgtest issues

2024-06-05 Thread Paul Gevers

Source: survival
Version: 3.5-8-1
Severity: serious
Control: close -1 3.6-4-1
Tags: sid trixie
User: release.debian@packages.debian.org
Usertags: out-of-sync

Dear maintainer(s),

The Release Team considers packages that are out-of-sync between testing 
and unstable for more than 30 days as having a Release Critical bug in 
testing [1]. Your package src:survival has been trying to migrate for 40 
days [2]. Hence, I am filing this bug. The version in unstable triggers 
autopkgtest failure in r-cran-popepi.


If a package is out of sync between unstable and testing for a longer 
period, this usually means that bugs in the package in testing cannot be 
fixed via unstable. Additionally, blocked packages can have impact on 
other packages, which makes preparing for the release more difficult. 
Finally, it often exposes issues with the package and/or
its (reverse-)dependencies. We expect maintainers to fix issues that 
hamper the migration of their package in a timely manner.


This bug will trigger auto-removal when appropriate. As with all new 
bugs, there will be at least 30 days before the package is auto-removed.


I have immediately closed this bug with the version in unstable, so if 
that version or a later version migrates, this bug will no longer affect 
testing. I have also tagged this bug to only affect sid and trixie, so 
it doesn't affect (old-)stable.


If you believe your package is unable to migrate to testing due to 
issues beyond your control, don't hesitate to contact the Release Team.


Paul

[1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2023/06/msg1.html
[2] https://qa.debian.org/excuses.php?package=survival



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