Bug#156614: Bug#331072: ITP: cinelerra-cvs -- non-linear video editor and compositor for Linux.

2005-10-05 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

please respect the reply-to: and subscribe to the bugs if you're interested in 
solving them... Thanks.

On Saturday 01 October 2005 15:05, Riccardo Setti wrote:
 Package: wnpp
 Severity: wishlist
 Owner: Riccardo Setti [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 * Package name: cinelerra-cvs
   Version : 2.0-cvs
   Upstream Author :

Besides the original upstream (Heroine Virtual Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
the people at http://cvs.cinelerra.org/devcorner/cvswrite.html (or the URL 
itself) should be mentioned.


 * URL : http://www.example.org/

This should be changed to http://cvs.cinelerra.org

 This is a branched version of Cinelerra sometimes called
 Cinelerra-CVS

I dont think it's useful (at the moment) to have both versions of cinelerra in 
Debian. So #78209, #156614 and #239570 could be closed.

OTOH, it's a seperatly maintained fork, so maybe not. What do you think ?

BTW, IMHO it would really be a good idea to change that name. Maintainers of 
cinelerra-cvs, what do you think ? Cinelerra has also been renamed in the 
past :-)


On Saturday 01 October 2005 15:44, Sam Hocevar wrote:
Be careful, more than 1000 Cinelerra source files do not have a
 proper license, a dozen are copyrighted by the MPEG group, another dozen
 are under the old ugly OpenDivX license, and you have many additional
 strange licensing terms in some files (such as free to copy and modify,
 but not to redistribute).

Sam gave me a list with his investigation of the cinelerra-cvs, I have 
attached it. What strikes me most, is the lack of licences for 15% of the 
whole sourcecode. (1013 out of 6631 (Sam's list from 2004-04-25 / my 
cvs-checkout from monday). 

Since this investigation is a year old, I would like to ask upstream and the 
maintainers of the fork to comment on the current situation. Have those 
issues been addressed ? (Yes, i'm too lazy to check this myself now. Thats why 
I'm asking the people who should know whether they did that work ;)


Are you in touch with Holger Levsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]? We
 talked about Cinelerra at the QA miniconf and I sent him a list of
 problematic source files I had gathered. He is in touch with other
 people interested in packaging Cinelerra.

I've not really got into touch with the cinelerra-cvs community yet, only 
with Herman Robak (who is deeply involved in cinelerra-cvs)... With this  
mail I try to address the issues and connect the people who could have an 
interest in solving them. 

http://www.heroinewarrior.com/support.php3 (real upstream) mentions the fork 
on their support/harrassment page, so I tend to think, they're somewhat happy 
about it... 

Another big problem: Currently the build requirements for the debian packages 
provided from cinelerra-cvs (see 
http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.html or 
http://developer.skolelinux.no/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/external/cinelerra/hvirtual/README.BUILD?rev=HEADcontent-type=text/plain
) include a number of packages which are not in Debian but distributed via 
ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ - I hope that it will be possible to 
create a cinelerra version, which works with free codecs from Debian proper 
only, and still can use additional codecs from marillat. 

I know that this most probably will be a long journey or even impossible - but 
if this _is_ impossible I would like to spread the word, so there is an 
incentive to work on a truly free tool for editing videos.

Please reply if you want to help on this. If this gets started, we could 
create an alioth-project to group-maintain cinelerra-cvs, but for discussing 
those details it's currently too early IMHO.


regards,
Holger (subscribed to those bugs and cinelerra-cvs..)
libsndfile/examples/sndfile-play-beos.cpp: GPL
plugins/freeverb/Components/allpass.cpp: public domain
plugins/freeverb/Components/comb.cpp: public domain
plugins/freeverb/Components/revmodel.cpp: public domain
soundtest.c: ???
cinelerra/jdatadst.c: no license
cinelerra/jerrormgr.c: no license
guicast/bootstrap.c: no license
guicast/pngtoh.c: LGPL
libmpeg3/audio/ac3.c: no license
libmpeg3/audio/bit_allocation.c: GPL
libmpeg3/audio/dct.c: GPL
libmpeg3/audio/exponents.c: GPL
libmpeg3/audio/header.c: no license (header file)
libmpeg3/audio/huffman.c: no license (pure data)
libmpeg3/audio/layer1.c: no license (almost empty)
libmpeg3/audio/layer2.c: no license
libmpeg3/audio/layer3.c: no license
libmpeg3/audio/mantissa.c: GPL
libmpeg3/audio/mpeg3audio.c: no license
libmpeg3/audio/pcm.c: no license
libmpeg3/audio/synthesizers.c: no license
libmpeg3/audio/tables.c: no license
libmpeg3/audio/uncouple.c: GPL
libmpeg3/bitstream.c: no license
libmpeg3/libmpeg3.c: no license
libmpeg3/mpeg2qt.c: no license
libmpeg3/mpeg3atrack.c: no license
libmpeg3/mpeg3cat.c: no license
libmpeg3/mpeg3css.c: no license
libmpeg3/mpeg3css_fake.c: no license
libmpeg3/mpeg3demux.c: no license
libmpeg3/mpeg3dump.c: no license
libmpeg3/mpeg3ifo.c: no license
libmpeg3/mpeg3io.c: no license

Bug#156614: Bug#331072: ITP: cinelerra-cvs -- non-linear video editor and compositor for Linux.

2005-10-05 Thread giskard
Il giorno mer, 05/10/2005 alle 20.39 +0200, Holger Levsen ha scritto:
hello,
 Hi,
 Besides the original upstream (Heroine Virtual Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
 the people at http://cvs.cinelerra.org/devcorner/cvswrite.html (or the URL 
 itself) should be mentioned.

i don't know :) probably you are in right. i fogot it. sorry.

  * URL : http://www.example.org/
 
 This should be changed to http://cvs.cinelerra.org

same.

  This is a branched version of Cinelerra sometimes called
  Cinelerra-CVS
 
 I dont think it's useful (at the moment) to have both versions of cinelerra 
 in 
 Debian. So #78209, #156614 and #239570 could be closed.

alredy close (see damog's mail in d-d-a).

 OTOH, it's a seperatly maintained fork, so maybe not. What do you think ?
 
 BTW, IMHO it would really be a good idea to change that name. Maintainers of 
 cinelerra-cvs, what do you think ? Cinelerra has also been renamed in the 
 past :-)

afaik we will discuss it in the next weeks, months, years :)

 On Saturday 01 October 2005 15:44, Sam Hocevar wrote:
 Be careful, more than 1000 Cinelerra source files do not have a
  proper license, a dozen are copyrighted by the MPEG group, another dozen
  are under the old ugly OpenDivX license, and you have many additional
  strange licensing terms in some files (such as free to copy and modify,
  but not to redistribute).
 
 Sam gave me a list with his investigation of the cinelerra-cvs, I have 
 attached it. What strikes me most, is the lack of licences for 15% of the 
 whole sourcecode. (1013 out of 6631 (Sam's list from 2004-04-25 / my 
 cvs-checkout from monday). 
 Since this investigation is a year old, I would like to ask upstream and the 
 maintainers of the fork to comment on the current situation. Have those 
 issues been addressed ? (Yes, i'm too lazy to check this myself now. Thats 
 why 
 I'm asking the people who should know whether they did that work ;)

we start talking about this issue last week. 

 Another big problem: Currently the build requirements for the debian packages 
 provided from cinelerra-cvs (see 
 http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.html or 
 http://developer.skolelinux.no/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/external/cinelerra/hvirtual/README.BUILD?rev=HEADcontent-type=text/plain
 ) include a number of packages which are not in Debian but distributed via 
 ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ - I hope that it will be possible to 
 create a cinelerra version, which works with free codecs from Debian proper 
 only, and still can use additional codecs from marillat. 

afaik it could be possible, we are working on it.

a the moment cinelerra-cvs supports the encode to ogg/theora.
 
 I know that this most probably will be a long journey or even impossible - 
 but 
 if this _is_ impossible I would like to spread the word, so there is an 
 incentive to work on a truly free tool for editing videos.

:)

 regards,
   Holger (subscribed to those bugs and cinelerra-cvs..)
-- 
ciao giskard

non ho peli sulla lingua. e se ce li ho... non sono miei.


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