Bug#272335: [rt.debian.org #1298] Bug#272335: www.debian.org do not support mod_gzip
We do not think this is an issue really worth caring about. If you really really really feel strongly about this we may reconsider. But until then we probably won't do this. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#272335: [rt.debian.org #1298] Bug#272335: www.debian.org do not support mod_gzip
Hi, On Montag, 20. April 2009, Stephen Gran via RT wrote: A quick look at the munin stats suggests we don't use all that much bandwidth at present (or cpu, for that matter) so maybe it doesn't matter either way? ain't there are third factor to consider: the bandwidth(+cpu) used on the user side? if the user has little bandwidth, mod_gzip enhances the browsing experience (if cpu is available to unzip). regards, Holger signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Bug#272335: [rt.debian.org #1298] Bug#272335: www.debian.org do not support mod_gzip
This one time, at band camp, Holger Levsen via RT said: URL: https://rt.debian.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=1298 Hi, On Montag, 20. April 2009, Stephen Gran via RT wrote: A quick look at the munin stats suggests we don't use all that much bandwidth at present (or cpu, for that matter) so maybe it doesn't matter either way? ain't there are third factor to consider: the bandwidth(+cpu) used on the user side? if the user has little bandwidth, mod_gzip enhances the browsing experience (if cpu is available to unzip). Sure, it's a factor to take into account, but I don't think it's worth changing the setup for a hypothetical issue. I'm only talking at present about issues we can actualy measure, which lead me to believe we don't need to make any changes. Cheers, -- - | ,''`.Stephen Gran | | : :' :sg...@debian.org | | `. `'Debian user, admin, and developer | |`- http://www.debian.org | - signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Bug#272335: [rt.debian.org #1298] Bug#272335: www.debian.org do not support mod_gzip
Hi, On Montag, 20. April 2009, Stephen Gran via RT wrote: A quick look at the munin stats suggests we don't use all that much bandwidth at present (or cpu, for that matter) so maybe it doesn't matter either way? ain't there are third factor to consider: the bandwidth(+cpu) used on the user side? if the user has little bandwidth, mod_gzip enhances the browsing experience (if cpu is available to unzip). regards, Holger signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Bug#272335: [rt.debian.org #1298] Bug#272335: www.debian.org do not support mod_gzip
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 07:37:31AM +, Stephen Gran via RT wrote: This one time, at band camp, Holger Levsen via RT said: URL: https://rt.debian.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=1298 On Montag, 20. April 2009, Stephen Gran via RT wrote: A quick look at the munin stats suggests we don't use all that much bandwidth at present (or cpu, for that matter) so maybe it doesn't matter either way? By the way, there are 0 figures for apache access / volume on http://munin.debian.org/debian.org/klecker.debian.org.html ain't there are third factor to consider: the bandwidth(+cpu) used on the user side? if the user has little bandwidth, mod_gzip enhances the browsing experience (if cpu is available to unzip). Sure, it's a factor to take into account, but I don't think it's worth changing the setup for a hypothetical issue. I'm only talking at present about issues we can actualy measure, which lead me to believe we don't need to make any changes. Given the high volume of static text content, we can think it (at least) worth the try. And you're right, that's currently not a issue, but a possible improvement. Apache will cache the compressed pages anyway, so the CPU impact would not be that high, for an improved downloading time (serveral dozens of %) on the user side where the pages will display faster. And since the compression level can set, it can be used to tune the CPU usage. Best regards. -- Simon Paillard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#272335: [rt.debian.org #1298] Bug#272335: www.debian.org do not support mod_gzip
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 07:37:31AM +, Stephen Gran via RT wrote: This one time, at band camp, Holger Levsen via RT said: URL: https://rt.debian.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=1298 On Montag, 20. April 2009, Stephen Gran via RT wrote: A quick look at the munin stats suggests we don't use all that much bandwidth at present (or cpu, for that matter) so maybe it doesn't matter either way? By the way, there are 0 figures for apache access / volume on http://munin.debian.org/debian.org/klecker.debian.org.html ain't there are third factor to consider: the bandwidth(+cpu) used on the user side? if the user has little bandwidth, mod_gzip enhances the browsing experience (if cpu is available to unzip). Sure, it's a factor to take into account, but I don't think it's worth changing the setup for a hypothetical issue. I'm only talking at present about issues we can actualy measure, which lead me to believe we don't need to make any changes. Given the high volume of static text content, we can think it (at least) worth the try. And you're right, that's currently not a issue, but a possible improvement. Apache will cache the compressed pages anyway, so the CPU impact would not be that high, for an improved downloading time (serveral dozens of %) on the user side where the pages will display faster. And since the compression level can set, it can be used to tune the CPU usage. Best regards. -- Simon Paillard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#272335: [rt.debian.org #1298] Bug#272335: www.debian.org do not support mod_gzip
On Tue Apr 14 19:14:01 2009, 272...@bugs.debian.org wrote: Sure, however we may encourage them to enable mod_gzip on http://debian.org/mirror/webmirror#ref Such a question is more in the scope of DSA, so let's forward it to them. I have nothing against gzip for web servers in general, but I thought it was always a rule of thumb thing, and you enabled it if you're bandwidth limited and don't if you're cpu bound. Has anyone looked to see what the numbers are like at the moment? A quick look at the munin stats suggests we don't use all that much bandwidth at present (or cpu, for that matter) so maybe it doesn't matter either way? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
