Bug#274451: O: metamail -- An implementation of MIME
hi folks! just wanted to say, from a pure user perspective of things, that it's not only exmh depending on metamail, but also and mostly nmh. am i the only one using nmh? i can't read mime messages now on my box (well, yeah: i can use cat :-). to be honest, i'm finding this rather annoying! there should'nt be major packages left broken after removal of an orphaned one, should there? i have no problems using something else, but what? mpack does not what metamail does. do i have do write my own mime handler for nmh now? is metamail really such a hopeless case, so that you have to hold people, who want to adopt it, back? however, thanks for making the best OS in the world and keep the good work up! kind regards m.b. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#274451: O: metamail -- An implementation of MIME
ok,ok! nmh is not broken without metamail. sorry for the noise (if i can't read mail first thing in the morning, i usually get a little bit touchy :). you can easily fix things in ~/.mh_profile or systemwide in /etc/nmh/mhn.defaults or leave metamail in aptitude's obsolete package section until hell freezes over. but still: somebody got to contact the nmh maintainer to tell him to ship new default configs with nmh, which do not depend on metamail (which will be a pain in the ass, because everybody uses different apps...). but it's not that bad. if somebody is crazy enough to use nmh, she probably knows how to use an editor ;). thanks for making the best OS in the world. regards m.b. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#274451: O: metamail -- An implementation of MIME
On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:27:03 GMT, Gerrit Pape writes: Hrm, 23 Sep 2003: http://bugs.debian.org/212349 25 Mar 2006: http://bugs.debian.org/358942 what's _the_ tool in Debian to quoted-printable-encode files now? sorry for being, hmm, a bit behind the bleeding edge...i just revisited the metamail issue for exmh and had to dig up an answer for your question, too. the answer seems that there is no ready, /small/ tool: base64 is in coreutils nowadays, but that doesn't help for qp. mime-codecs is history, mpack and others encapsulate whole mails but not decap an already given qp-string outside a mime message framework and so on. the only comprehensive tool i've found is recode: ready but not small. recode data..b64 encodes stdin to base-64, qp..data decodes quoted-printable and so on. i've quickly cooked up a few lines of shell to emulate mimencode's commandline with recode; attached. regards az mimencode Description: application/shellscript -- + Alexander Zangerl + DSA 42BD645D + (RSA 5B586291) Reporter (to Mahatma Gandhi): Mr Gandhi, what do you think of Western Civilization? Gandhi: I think it would be a good idea. signature.asc Description: Digital Signature
Bug#274451: O: metamail -- An implementation of MIME Reply-To:
On Sun, Dec 09, 2007 at 03:49:43PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: metamail has been orphaned for a very long time now (in fact, it's one of the oldest orphaned packages in Debian). I'm going through such packages, to see if they can be safely removed from Debian, since noone seems to care about them. You are receiving this mail because your name showed up somewhere in the history of the package, or because I think that you might be interested for some reason, or because you maintain a related/similar package. Are you interested in adopting this package? Do you know potential adopters? If so, could you forward them this mail, Ccing the BTS and me? Are you aware of the current metamail situation? Do you think it could be safely removed from Debian? There are still 3 packages depending on it: exmh, hylafax-server, and raccess4vbox3. Hrm, 23 Sep 2003: http://bugs.debian.org/212349 25 Mar 2006: http://bugs.debian.org/358942 what's _the_ tool in Debian to quoted-printable-encode files now? Thanks, Gerrit. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#274451: O: metamail -- An implementation of MIME Reply-To:
On 12/12/07 at 10:27 +, Gerrit Pape wrote: On Sun, Dec 09, 2007 at 03:49:43PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: metamail has been orphaned for a very long time now (in fact, it's one of the oldest orphaned packages in Debian). I'm going through such packages, to see if they can be safely removed from Debian, since noone seems to care about them. You are receiving this mail because your name showed up somewhere in the history of the package, or because I think that you might be interested for some reason, or because you maintain a related/similar package. Are you interested in adopting this package? Do you know potential adopters? If so, could you forward them this mail, Ccing the BTS and me? Are you aware of the current metamail situation? Do you think it could be safely removed from Debian? There are still 3 packages depending on it: exmh, hylafax-server, and raccess4vbox3. Hrm, 23 Sep 2003: http://bugs.debian.org/212349 25 Mar 2006: http://bugs.debian.org/358942 what's _the_ tool in Debian to quoted-printable-encode files now? I don't know :( Maybe ask on debian-devel@ ? -- | Lucas Nussbaum | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.lucas-nussbaum.net/ | | jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG: 1024D/023B3F4F | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#274451: O: metamail -- An implementation of MIME Reply-To:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:52:52 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum writes: Is there some chance that exmh will be moving away from metamail in the near future? i've just reviewed the situation of exmh re metamail and decided that getting rid of it is the easier path. i've done that and uploaded exmh 2.7.2-12 a few minutes ago, so from my perspective metamail can go. regards az -- + Alexander Zangerl + DSA 42BD645D + (RSA 5B586291) Fachbegriffe der Informatik, Gesundbooten: Das Allheilmittel für jegliche Probleme, die auf, mit und um Windows auftauchen. -- Holger Marzen signature.asc Description: Digital Signature
Bug#274451: O: metamail -- An implementation of MIME Reply-To:
Il giorno dom, 09/12/2007 alle 15.49 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum ha scritto: Hi, metamail has been orphaned for a very long time now (in fact, it's one of the oldest orphaned packages in Debian). I'm going through such packages, to see if they can be safely removed from Debian, since noone seems to care about them. [...] Currently hylafax-server depends on one executable, mimencode, but I may change the package in order to provide a very simple alternative. But, since I am not very busy, I may adopt the package if nobody else care enough. Other opinions? Bye, Giuseppe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#274451: O: metamail -- An implementation of MIME Reply-To:
Il giorno lun, 10/12/2007 alle 13.52 +0100, Giuseppe Sacco ha scritto: [...] Currently hylafax-server depends on one executable, mimencode, but I may change the package in order to provide a very simple alternative. [...] Ok, I read the complete bug report and I agree that this package should be removed, so I will change the dependency for hylafax-server in my next upload. Bye, Giuseppe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#274451: O: metamail -- An implementation of MIME Reply-To:
(Seems like you dropped several people from Cc. Re-adding them) On 10/12/07 at 10:21 +1000, Alexander Zangerl wrote: On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 15:49:43 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum writes: Are you aware of the current metamail situation? Do you think it could be safely removed from Debian? There are still 3 packages depending on it: exmh, hylafax-server, and raccess4vbox3. i'm one of the exmh maintainers; exmh still requires metamail, so no, removing metamail is not a good idea. Hi Alexander, Since exmh is likely to become the only (or one of the only two) user of metamail, would you be interested in adopting metamail? Is there some chance that exmh will be moving away from metamail in the near future? -- | Lucas Nussbaum | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.lucas-nussbaum.net/ | | jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG: 1024D/023B3F4F | signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#274451: O: metamail -- An implementation of MIME Reply-To:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:52:52 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum writes: Hi Alexander, Since exmh is likely to become the only (or one of the only two) user of metamail, would you be interested in adopting metamail? Is there some chance that exmh will be moving away from metamail in the near future? rhg, damned if i do, damned if i dont! :-/ alright, give me a few days to decide whether it'll be less hassle to mod exmh into not requiring metamail or adopting it. regards az -- + Alexander Zangerl + DSA 42BD645D + (RSA 5B586291) Pauli's exclusive, Heisenberg's uncertain and Schroedinger just waves -- Caton Little signature.asc Description: Digital Signature
Bug#274451: O: metamail -- An implementation of MIME Reply-To:
Hi, metamail has been orphaned for a very long time now (in fact, it's one of the oldest orphaned packages in Debian). I'm going through such packages, to see if they can be safely removed from Debian, since noone seems to care about them. You are receiving this mail because your name showed up somewhere in the history of the package, or because I think that you might be interested for some reason, or because you maintain a related/similar package. Are you interested in adopting this package? Do you know potential adopters? If so, could you forward them this mail, Ccing the BTS and me? Are you aware of the current metamail situation? Do you think it could be safely removed from Debian? There are still 3 packages depending on it: exmh, hylafax-server, and raccess4vbox3. Thank you, -- | Lucas Nussbaum | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.lucas-nussbaum.net/ | | jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG: 1024D/023B3F4F | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
